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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 04:59 PM Oct 2012

Do you ever get the evil, unworthy, fleeting thought that you'd almost like Willard to win just so

all the assholes who supported him could see how badly they fucked up?

Sadly, Schadenfreude isn't much fun when you're part of the group enduring the misfortune.

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Do you ever get the evil, unworthy, fleeting thought that you'd almost like Willard to win just so (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 OP
Not for a split second wryter2000 Oct 2012 #1
+ struggle4progress Oct 2012 #82
Fuck No!! Not even for a millisecond!!! n/t Rectangle Oct 2012 #84
No slackmaster Oct 2012 #2
HELL NO! eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #3
Self delete this crap! Logical Oct 2012 #4
NO the mere thought of that terrifies me. Autumn Oct 2012 #5
Like all the assholes who supported G W Bush? edhopper Oct 2012 #6
Nope. Buyers' remorse didn't hit most of the Bush-voting idiots until well into his second term. Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #7
Even now, I don't think the Bush voters accept the blame for the Bush fiasco aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #25
No cause in their little minds it is all mikeysnot Oct 2012 #44
If any of them will admit to voting for the little shit. DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #63
Hell, I STILL see Bush/Cheney stickers on cars where I live Rob H. Oct 2012 #51
No ismnotwasm Oct 2012 #8
No!!!!!!' Obamamama44 Oct 2012 #9
Uh, no. TDale313 Oct 2012 #10
No. Not even for a moment. (nt) w4rma Oct 2012 #11
No atreides1 Oct 2012 #12
NO. He will reap the benefits Obama has just now working after 4 years ksoze Oct 2012 #13
Never...EVER! n/t peace13 Oct 2012 #14
Not at all Spirochete Oct 2012 #15
...Norway? theKed Oct 2012 #57
no. besides, they would blame Obama for everything for the next 30 years. Whisp Oct 2012 #16
Yep. So they wait for fuckstick beck to tell them who did. Amonester Oct 2012 #77
Yep. I confess I have gone to that dark place. I want them to suffer. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #17
No. Fozzledick Oct 2012 #18
If I thought for one second we could survive Rambis Oct 2012 #19
Nope Richard D Oct 2012 #20
No, not at all GObamaGO Oct 2012 #21
no. DefenseLawyer Oct 2012 #22
Yes, for just a moment. But logic wins Ilsa Oct 2012 #23
No fucking way. n/t RiffRandell Oct 2012 #24
No. Fucking. Way. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2012 #26
Well no rock Oct 2012 #27
Another example rock Oct 2012 #34
No. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #28
Hell NO! meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #29
Nope. Far too many wouldn't survive such a "lesson" and many of those who gkhouston Oct 2012 #30
Sorry No Liberalynn Oct 2012 #31
No, because they are too stupid and greedy for power (power they do not wield that does not serve TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #32
Not for a second would I ever actually "want" this to happen Texin Oct 2012 #33
Ever so briefly. reflection Oct 2012 #35
It would be far too hard a lesson upon us all to even begin to be worth it. Fire Walk With Me Oct 2012 #36
Never and Never Happen Risen Demon Oct 2012 #37
No. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #38
Good God, NO. Worried senior Oct 2012 #39
NO! N CAPITAL NO Matariki Oct 2012 #40
Only in a simulation Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #41
Do you have an answer to your question now? kentauros Oct 2012 #42
On the other hand, if we could ship them all to some island Matariki Oct 2012 #43
Lord of the Flies for adults demwing Oct 2012 #46
I see you've tempted yourself demwing Oct 2012 #45
It was a passing thing prompted by a wingnut idiot Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #52
NO< GAUDDAMMINT< NO onethatcares Oct 2012 #47
NO! n/t Tess49 Oct 2012 #48
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I'd much prefer the opposite. drm604 Oct 2012 #50
Absolutely not. I wouldn't wish that even on many Tea Partiers. n/t AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #53
NO northoftheborder Oct 2012 #54
Like all the "liberals" and "progressives" that stayed home in 2010 to teach Obama a lesson? FSogol Oct 2012 #55
NO WAY!!!!!! okwlc21 Oct 2012 #56
I have. I know what you mean. Greybnk48 Oct 2012 #58
Hell NO rbrnmw Oct 2012 #59
No. And you must not be aware that your terrible idea has already been mentioned for years ladjf Oct 2012 #60
NO! WiffenPoof Oct 2012 #61
You ever have the urge to put a gun to your head? Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #62
Oh (enter your diety here) no. n/t Smickey Oct 2012 #64
Just for a split second then hell no outsideworld Oct 2012 #65
no because MFM008 Oct 2012 #66
Nope....people would suffer TheSlayer Oct 2012 #67
lol NO! moobu2 Oct 2012 #68
No. If rMoney did get elected, you won't see the Kool-Aid drinkers repent. backscatter712 Oct 2012 #69
I often feel this way but there's a big problem with it... Locut0s Oct 2012 #70
You're right, of course. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #71
YES. But only in one scenario. xfundy Oct 2012 #72
no. they would never admit it. they admit nothing. 8 years of bu$h*-no apology spanone Oct 2012 #73
they wouldn't see it ibegurpard Oct 2012 #74
HELL NO. My rights are not anyone's playthings. nolabear Oct 2012 #75
I thought a second Bush term would have a similar effect. Incitatus Oct 2012 #76
I'm too old to go through even 4 years of that jackass spiderpig Oct 2012 #78
SCOTUS. libdem4life Oct 2012 #79
I know, I know. I was asking whether anyone else had that irrational impulse, Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #80
Well, to be technical, so did I...for 8 or 10 seconds. But none of us are perfect :) libdem4life Oct 2012 #81
They will never admit to making a mistake. They blame everyone but themselves when shit goes south. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #83

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
25. Even now, I don't think the Bush voters accept the blame for the Bush fiasco
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:12 PM
Oct 2012

He's solely culpable in their eyes and they've moved on.

Rob H.

(5,335 posts)
51. Hell, I STILL see Bush/Cheney stickers on cars where I live
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
Oct 2012

And the same people who voted for him in 2000 and 2004 are trying hard to pretend his presidency never happened and that everything bad that happened in the last 12 years is all Pres. Obama's fault. We absolutely don't need and can't afford a Dubya 2.0 administration, only they're too stupid to see that, too, given how many of 'em are voting for Romney.

atreides1

(16,039 posts)
12. No
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:03 PM
Oct 2012

Because it wouldn't make a difference to them...you're talking about the same people who want to impeach the President for the 4 dead in Libya...but think Bush is a fucking hero for 3,000 dead in the US and hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!

Those people don't have two brain cells that work....

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
15. Not at all
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:04 PM
Oct 2012

Because we'd have to suffer it too. If there was some utopian cloud progressives could watch from, safe from the effects of Rommunism, that would be another thing...

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
16. no. besides, they would blame Obama for everything for the next 30 years.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:05 PM
Oct 2012

they don't have the ability to put 2 and 2 together and actually see who messes stuff up and who cleans it up.

Fozzledick

(3,858 posts)
18. No.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oct 2012

After living through the Reagan and Bush catastrophes I have absolutely no tolerance for any "worse is better" philosophizing. Worse is just plain worse.

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
19. If I thought for one second we could survive
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oct 2012

then yes but after the shrub RobMe would literally ruin this country. I have never hated a candidate more. I never thought a sociopath would run for office. Bush was dumb dangerous- RobMe thinks he is smart however transparent but make no mistake he is diabolical!

Ilsa

(61,656 posts)
23. Yes, for just a moment. But logic wins
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:09 PM
Oct 2012

over schadenfreude.
I just remind people of how fucking horrible the last MBA president was.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,243 posts)
26. No. Fucking. Way.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:12 PM
Oct 2012

Because when things go completely to shit, the right-wing noise machine will be right behind them blaming poor people and immigrants - just like they did with the mortgage market fiasco.

As someone with 12 years in the mortgage business, I sat there, jaw on floor, as I watched that "blame poor people and Jimmy Carter" narrative develop on CNBC and Fox News.

They'll NEVER take the blame.

rock

(13,218 posts)
27. Well no
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:13 PM
Oct 2012

It didn't work at all for bush*, he doused the country in gasoline and set it on fire and the people clapped and shouted, "Oooo, warm and shiny!"

rock

(13,218 posts)
34. Another example
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:18 PM
Oct 2012

bush* ate a live baby's brains on TV and the people exclaimed, "look he's solved the hunger problem AND also the run-away population growth!"

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
29. Hell NO!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:13 PM
Oct 2012

And it took the full 8yrs before the Bushies even began disliking him. And even then I don't think they would have till some of their much beloved talking heads turned on Bush.

It could be quite possible that, God forbid willard wins, that the repugs would never ever see how horrid he is. As long as Fox News and Rush tell them it's ok, it's ok.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
30. Nope. Far too many wouldn't survive such a "lesson" and many of those who
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:14 PM
Oct 2012

allegedly "need" such a lesson still wouldn't get it.

TheKentuckian

(24,904 posts)
32. No, because they are too stupid and greedy for power (power they do not wield that does not serve
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:15 PM
Oct 2012

them) to "get" that they fucked up at all.

They haven't learned yet and have had plenty of opportunity over the years.

Texin

(2,584 posts)
33. Not for a second would I ever actually "want" this to happen
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:16 PM
Oct 2012

but I've thought about it if it does happen. All I can say is that if this is the case, then the Americans will have gotten the government they truly deserve. If they can't tell the difference between a lying liar who lies and someobody who's telling the truth and doing the utmost best he can against a gale strength headwind, then they deserve the shit that's coming with a Romeny presidency. They'll take the lying liar who lies because he's white and white is better than the truth any old day in their minds and they'll gladly bend over for these assholes and then chrip after the reaming, "Thank you sir. I'll have another, please."

Risen Demon

(199 posts)
37. Never and Never Happen
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

I never want another repuke extremist in the WH again.

And if it happens to be so, and we all get effed over in the process, the blind patriots will never accept it was their fault.

Reagan and Bush Jr. were both puppets and tools. They'll look like saints next to Rmoney.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
38. No.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

Not at my age. Romney would set this country back a minimum of 20 years. It would take our next Democratic President 100 to fix it again.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
43. On the other hand, if we could ship them all to some island
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:26 PM
Oct 2012

let's name it Ayn Rand Island - it might be interesting to watch how their "every man for themselves" philosophy crumbles around them...

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
45. I see you've tempted yourself
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:32 PM
Oct 2012

and passed the test



you will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Jackpine Radical.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
52. It was a passing thing prompted by a wingnut idiot
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:58 PM
Oct 2012

who was all torqued out of shape by the fact that Obamacare might provide help to some undeserving undocumented alien somewhere.

onethatcares

(16,119 posts)
47. NO< GAUDDAMMINT< NO
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:47 PM
Oct 2012

that's the last thing I would ever want, no scratch that, I DO NOT WANT THAT FOR ANY REASON.

sorry for yelling, but NO>

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
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Oct 2012

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drm604

(16,230 posts)
50. I'd much prefer the opposite.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:53 PM
Oct 2012

Obama wins and things just get better and better. Watching them trying to explain it away or ignore it would be much more satisfying.

FSogol

(45,312 posts)
55. Like all the "liberals" and "progressives" that stayed home in 2010 to teach Obama a lesson?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

How'd that work out?

Greybnk48

(10,144 posts)
58. I have. I know what you mean.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:14 PM
Oct 2012

But then I remember how high the stakes are. But I understand your comment fully. That's how mad I am too.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
60. No. And you must not be aware that your terrible idea has already been mentioned for years
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oct 2012

by various other geniuses such as Ralph Nader back in 2000. As you can see we didn't learn. We elected and re-elected George Bush.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
69. No. If rMoney did get elected, you won't see the Kool-Aid drinkers repent.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:05 PM
Oct 2012

Best to work to defeat the fuckers, so you can get schadenfreude from watching the righties scream powerlessly in impotent rage.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
70. I often feel this way but there's a big problem with it...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:07 PM
Oct 2012

I should note I'm a Canadian here so I'm not directly involved in US politics.

It's a feeling akin to wishing for vengeance on someone, as well as being able to tell them "I told you so you fucker!". But there's a big problem with this. Those on the right really actually don't give a shit about other people. So long as them and their own loved ones are taken care of they could give two fucks about other people. So if other people suffer as a consequence of voting in Romney they really aren't going to give a shit at all. Telling them "see what you've done", "see how much FURTHER america has fallen!", "see what you have wrought!", well they aren't going to give a fuck about that so long as their own skins are protected.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
71. You're right, of course.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:31 PM
Oct 2012

I was (self-deludedly) thinking that maybe (certainly) some of the shit will fall out on them via fucked-up health care, loss of the mortgage deduction, failing infrastructure, etc., causing them the sort of personal losses that might pain them. But of course they're impervious to anything remotely like notions of cause and effect--otherwise they wouldn't have elected BushII in 2000 after Clinton dug us out of the Reagan/BushI hole. They'd find a way to blame the dire consequences of Willard's policies on everything from the lingering effects of Obama to God's retribution for not torturing and burning gays.

And again, it was a passing thought in the first place. I really know better.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
72. YES. But only in one scenario.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

Fundies have been talking about taking over South Carolina as their "Christian Nation" for several years. If the non-idjits are allowed to leave peacefully, with their wealth and belongings intact (rather than being turned into slaves, as the bible so often commands of those with lesser numbers), and the state is then flooded with fundies and other wack jobs, as proponents want/expect, and the whole place is fenced, as they would fence in queers, etc., then YES, I would support Rmoney leading them, as an experiment only.

Fundies and cafeteria christers (repigs) have wanted others to live "biblically" for so long, they have imagined a paradise for themselves, with Baby Jesus™ always at hand on the red phone to give them instructions on literally every move they make.

I would support such a state, and maybe even the resulting "country," so long as they are not recognized by or given aid in any form by the USA.

Watch how fast the golden calves are built, watch how fast the wealthy become Lords, each of which will suddenly "know" the will of "god" and work their "lessers" to death. It's happened historically, but these idjits "know" theirs is the ONLY "right and true" way.

They've screeched constantly about "social experiments" and against gubmint programs that help those without wealth survive while the wealthier work them to death. Remember, all those who will be there will WANT to be there, living a "biblical lifestyle."

I would request, though, that tiny television cameras be set up every six-eight feet or so, so the rest of us can watch their holiness and maybe even repent and/or give money to keep them safe in their biblical-times "paradise." And, of course, the broadcast/cable monoliths can still make tons of money by providing the daily "family values"/theocratic show!

I'd subscribe if I had any income. Or maybe I can get a job in the edit suite! For probably less than $10/hr.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
74. they wouldn't see it
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:06 PM
Oct 2012

they'll keep watching Fox News, reading their forwarded right-wing email propaganda, and listening to right-wing radio that will tell them that it's all the fault of the socialist Democrats and their anti-business agenda (even if they're out of power).

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
76. I thought a second Bush term would have a similar effect.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:07 PM
Oct 2012

It did help Obama get elected, but if Romney is really as close as some polls suggest I don't see what good it would do since they will just forget in a few years, anyway.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
78. I'm too old to go through even 4 years of that jackass
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

Shoot - I've been through 6 years of Nixon, 2 of Ford, 8 of Raygun, 4 of Bush-the-less-stupid, and 8 of W. How much more can one person take?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
80. I know, I know. I was asking whether anyone else had that irrational impulse,
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:53 PM
Oct 2012

not suggesting that it was a good idea or anything I would consider for more than about 9 seconds.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
83. They will never admit to making a mistake. They blame everyone but themselves when shit goes south.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:12 PM
Oct 2012

Like they blame the economic crash on Obama.

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