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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you ever get the evil, unworthy, fleeting thought that you'd almost like Willard to win just so
all the assholes who supported him could see how badly they fucked up?
Sadly, Schadenfreude isn't much fun when you're part of the group enduring the misfortune.
wryter2000
(46,008 posts)Bush ended up rounding hate, but that wasn't worth the 8 years and 2 wars.
struggle4progress
(117,949 posts)Rectangle
(667 posts)slackmaster
(60,567 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,332 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Autumn
(44,686 posts)Fuck NO
edhopper
(33,075 posts)been there done that.
The price is too high.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)He's solely culpable in their eyes and they've moved on.
mikeysnot
(4,755 posts)Obama's fault. The TV told them so.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)Kinda like trying to find a Nixon voter.
Rob H.
(5,335 posts)And the same people who voted for him in 2000 and 2004 are trying hard to pretend his presidency never happened and that everything bad that happened in the last 12 years is all Pres. Obama's fault. We absolutely don't need and can't afford a Dubya 2.0 administration, only they're too stupid to see that, too, given how many of 'em are voting for Romney.
ismnotwasm
(41,885 posts)There's no hope for them.
Obamamama44
(98 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)The rest of us who aren't supporting him don't deserve that.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)atreides1
(16,039 posts)Because it wouldn't make a difference to them...you're talking about the same people who want to impeach the President for the 4 dead in Libya...but think Bush is a fucking hero for 3,000 dead in the US and hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq and Afghanistan!!!
Those people don't have two brain cells that work....
ksoze
(2,068 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)Spirochete
(5,264 posts)Because we'd have to suffer it too. If there was some utopian cloud progressives could watch from, safe from the effects of Rommunism, that would be another thing...
theKed
(1,235 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)they don't have the ability to put 2 and 2 together and actually see who messes stuff up and who cleans it up.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)That's how much genius they got.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Fozzledick
(3,858 posts)After living through the Reagan and Bush catastrophes I have absolutely no tolerance for any "worse is better" philosophizing. Worse is just plain worse.
Rambis
(7,774 posts)then yes but after the shrub RobMe would literally ruin this country. I have never hated a candidate more. I never thought a sociopath would run for office. Bush was dumb dangerous- RobMe thinks he is smart however transparent but make no mistake he is diabolical!
Richard D
(8,674 posts)Never.
GObamaGO
(665 posts)Because I take no pleasure in all of us being fucked.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)They won't ever see it. These are the same people who think W should be on Mount Rushmore
Ilsa
(61,656 posts)over schadenfreude.
I just remind people of how fucking horrible the last MBA president was.
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,243 posts)Because when things go completely to shit, the right-wing noise machine will be right behind them blaming poor people and immigrants - just like they did with the mortgage market fiasco.
As someone with 12 years in the mortgage business, I sat there, jaw on floor, as I watched that "blame poor people and Jimmy Carter" narrative develop on CNBC and Fox News.
They'll NEVER take the blame.
rock
(13,218 posts)It didn't work at all for bush*, he doused the country in gasoline and set it on fire and the people clapped and shouted, "Oooo, warm and shiny!"
rock
(13,218 posts)bush* ate a live baby's brains on TV and the people exclaimed, "look he's solved the hunger problem AND also the run-away population growth!"
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,053 posts)Next question.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)And it took the full 8yrs before the Bushies even began disliking him. And even then I don't think they would have till some of their much beloved talking heads turned on Bush.
It could be quite possible that, God forbid willard wins, that the repugs would never ever see how horrid he is. As long as Fox News and Rush tell them it's ok, it's ok.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)allegedly "need" such a lesson still wouldn't get it.
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)TheKentuckian
(24,904 posts)them) to "get" that they fucked up at all.
They haven't learned yet and have had plenty of opportunity over the years.
Texin
(2,584 posts)but I've thought about it if it does happen. All I can say is that if this is the case, then the Americans will have gotten the government they truly deserve. If they can't tell the difference between a lying liar who lies and someobody who's telling the truth and doing the utmost best he can against a gale strength headwind, then they deserve the shit that's coming with a Romeny presidency. They'll take the lying liar who lies because he's white and white is better than the truth any old day in their minds and they'll gladly bend over for these assholes and then chrip after the reaming, "Thank you sir. I'll have another, please."
reflection
(6,286 posts)Then I come to my senses.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Risen Demon
(199 posts)I never want another repuke extremist in the WH again.
And if it happens to be so, and we all get effed over in the process, the blind patriots will never accept it was their fault.
Reagan and Bush Jr. were both puppets and tools. They'll look like saints next to Rmoney.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)Not at my age. Romney would set this country back a minimum of 20 years. It would take our next Democratic President 100 to fix it again.
Worried senior
(1,328 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)And even then with mental health professionals standing by when the simulation ends.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)let's name it Ayn Rand Island - it might be interesting to watch how their "every man for themselves" philosophy crumbles around them...
demwing
(16,916 posts)poor Piggy
demwing
(16,916 posts)and passed the test
you will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Jackpine Radical.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)who was all torqued out of shape by the fact that Obamacare might provide help to some undeserving undocumented alien somewhere.
onethatcares
(16,119 posts)that's the last thing I would ever want, no scratch that, I DO NOT WANT THAT FOR ANY REASON.
sorry for yelling, but NO>
Tess49
(1,575 posts)lunamagica
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drm604
(16,230 posts)Obama wins and things just get better and better. Watching them trying to explain it away or ignore it would be much more satisfying.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)northoftheborder
(7,565 posts)FSogol
(45,312 posts)How'd that work out?
okwlc21
(6 posts)Greybnk48
(10,144 posts)But then I remember how high the stakes are. But I understand your comment fully. That's how mad I am too.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)It would effect my family
ladjf
(17,320 posts)by various other geniuses such as Ralph Nader back in 2000. As you can see we didn't learn. We elected and re-elected George Bush.
WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)...this country can't afford it.
-Paige
Floyd_Gondolli
(1,277 posts)Me neither.
Smickey
(3,180 posts)outsideworld
(601 posts)Bush was ban enough
MFM008
(19,763 posts)they DO so spectacularly...........
TheSlayer
(25 posts)Not even for a second. Too many people would suffer and die.
moobu2
(4,822 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Best to work to defeat the fuckers, so you can get schadenfreude from watching the righties scream powerlessly in impotent rage.
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)I should note I'm a Canadian here so I'm not directly involved in US politics.
It's a feeling akin to wishing for vengeance on someone, as well as being able to tell them "I told you so you fucker!". But there's a big problem with this. Those on the right really actually don't give a shit about other people. So long as them and their own loved ones are taken care of they could give two fucks about other people. So if other people suffer as a consequence of voting in Romney they really aren't going to give a shit at all. Telling them "see what you've done", "see how much FURTHER america has fallen!", "see what you have wrought!", well they aren't going to give a fuck about that so long as their own skins are protected.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I was (self-deludedly) thinking that maybe (certainly) some of the shit will fall out on them via fucked-up health care, loss of the mortgage deduction, failing infrastructure, etc., causing them the sort of personal losses that might pain them. But of course they're impervious to anything remotely like notions of cause and effect--otherwise they wouldn't have elected BushII in 2000 after Clinton dug us out of the Reagan/BushI hole. They'd find a way to blame the dire consequences of Willard's policies on everything from the lingering effects of Obama to God's retribution for not torturing and burning gays.
And again, it was a passing thought in the first place. I really know better.
xfundy
(5,105 posts)Fundies have been talking about taking over South Carolina as their "Christian Nation" for several years. If the non-idjits are allowed to leave peacefully, with their wealth and belongings intact (rather than being turned into slaves, as the bible so often commands of those with lesser numbers), and the state is then flooded with fundies and other wack jobs, as proponents want/expect, and the whole place is fenced, as they would fence in queers, etc., then YES, I would support Rmoney leading them, as an experiment only.
Fundies and cafeteria christers (repigs) have wanted others to live "biblically" for so long, they have imagined a paradise for themselves, with Baby Jesus always at hand on the red phone to give them instructions on literally every move they make.
I would support such a state, and maybe even the resulting "country," so long as they are not recognized by or given aid in any form by the USA.
Watch how fast the golden calves are built, watch how fast the wealthy become Lords, each of which will suddenly "know" the will of "god" and work their "lessers" to death. It's happened historically, but these idjits "know" theirs is the ONLY "right and true" way.
They've screeched constantly about "social experiments" and against gubmint programs that help those without wealth survive while the wealthier work them to death. Remember, all those who will be there will WANT to be there, living a "biblical lifestyle."
I would request, though, that tiny television cameras be set up every six-eight feet or so, so the rest of us can watch their holiness and maybe even repent and/or give money to keep them safe in their biblical-times "paradise." And, of course, the broadcast/cable monoliths can still make tons of money by providing the daily "family values"/theocratic show!
I'd subscribe if I had any income. Or maybe I can get a job in the edit suite! For probably less than $10/hr.
spanone
(135,586 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)they'll keep watching Fox News, reading their forwarded right-wing email propaganda, and listening to right-wing radio that will tell them that it's all the fault of the socialist Democrats and their anti-business agenda (even if they're out of power).
nolabear
(41,902 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)It did help Obama get elected, but if Romney is really as close as some polls suggest I don't see what good it would do since they will just forget in a few years, anyway.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Shoot - I've been through 6 years of Nixon, 2 of Ford, 8 of Raygun, 4 of Bush-the-less-stupid, and 8 of W. How much more can one person take?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)not suggesting that it was a good idea or anything I would consider for more than about 9 seconds.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Like they blame the economic crash on Obama.