Boy Scout leader at WalMart today

[newcriminal]

I was picking up a cake today for my daughter. I noticed the boy scouts selling krispy kreme doughnuts at the door. I love krispy kreme, but refuse to contribute to the boy scouts because of their anti-gay policy. I was in a hurry, so I kinda went in with a couple of other people hiding from the scouts so they wouldn't ask me to buy any.

On my way out I purposely went out the "in" door because there was just the leader there and not 5 boys waiting to attack you as you leave. I was hoping to get a clean getaway, but of course not. I get out the door and the leader says to me "would you like to buy some doughnuts to help the boy scouts." Here I am already running late and not wanting to deal with this now, but I refuse to just say nothing. So as calmly as I can I answer, "No, I'm sorry, but I refuse to contribute to any organization that discriminates." As I am trying to walk past him, he calls me a moron. Again, I'm running late and need to go, but I am one of those ladies that can't hold my tongue to some idiot man. I then say to him, "You're setting a good example for your son." He tells me to go away, that I am just a moron. I then say to him, "Do you not discriminate in the boy scouts?" He says we don't discriminate against normal people. I yell, "Normal people? Gays are not normal people now?" He walks to the other side telling me to move it on.

I so wanted to punch the guy (I wouldn't, but wanted to). If I wasn't already late I probably would have stayed around to harass him and hopefully lose a few sales for him.

[Fresh_Start]

1. call the store management and tell them

that the boy scout leader insulted one of their customers and called you a moron.

[Mr.Bill]

2. I understand you were pressed for time,

but you should have gone back into the store and reported the man's rude and insulting behavior then returned all the items you purchased and told them you won't shop there again unless they remove him from the premises.

[newcriminal]

4. You are right.

I was just so mad and trying to get home, I wasn't thinking straight.

[Mr.Bill]

6. Maybe he'll be there again tomorrow.

Round up some friends and do what I suggested in bigger numbers.

[lolly]

9. That's understandable

I would have done the same thing.

But, as soon as you have time, call the manager.

Be sure to specify the time of day, exactly what he said, etc.

[Kindly Refrain]

3. If I had been there the cops would have been there 15 minutes later

I wouldn't have started a physical altercation, but they would have gotten an earful from me, to the point that they would have probably been scared.

[LP2K12]

5. Thank you

for at least speaking the truth in a moment when you were busy. Sorry you had to deal with something so vile.

[GoCubsGo]

7. Instead of going after their discrimination...

You should have said, "I don't donate to organizations that cover up their pedophiles for decades on end." Then, I would have told those boys they needed to be careful around their scout masters.

[LeftofObama]

8. They're at the Wal Mart where I live all the time.

When I walk by and they say anything to me I just say, "no". Not, "no thank you" and I don't engage in small talk I just say, "no". I'm sure it sounds rude but I don't care. I don't have any children, but I wonder what they would do if I said, "my son is gay and he's thinking about joining".

[knitter4democracy]

12. It really depends on the pack. He'd be accepted in ours, no problem.

I lucked out on my son's pack--woman pack leader who's very liberal and makes it very clear that all boys are accepted into our pack. We don't give extra money to the national organization whenever possible, just our local groups that are more liberal (because it's Michigan). I haven't pushed my son to sell popcorn this year, either.

We have several special needs boys in our pack, one who moved up last year into Boy Scouts who had severe issues and earned every possible badge. We have boys of every color and four different languages at home. We have all kinds of parents, several single moms, and one couple who's obviously gay but no one says anything but just asks what they're bringing to potlucks.

The national organization sucks, to be sure. The Girl Scouts are far better in many ways, but local packs can really do some serious good.

[LeftofObama]

14. Thank you for that!

Seriously, I never gave it any more thought than what the national organization stands for. The next time I see them there I'll make sure to ask them a few questions. Stupid me for assuming! You may have just changed my mind.

[knitter4democracy]

15. The national organization's mucked up, sure.

No argument there. I've run into some pack and den leaders I wouldn't have my son with, either, but honestly, at least up here, there are just as many women pack and den leaders, if not more, than men, and they're letting girls into Boy/Cub Scouts, too. One of my friends' sons had a gay den leader years ago when he was a Tiger Cub, and it was no big deal.

Our boys work with the Food Bank, clean up local parks all the time, help at the national military cemetery at least once a year, and do all kinds of cool outings to help them spend time with friends and learn important skills. My son and I went to his Cub Scout camp together this summer (three other moms went, too), and we had a ball! He learned good skills with knot-tying, swimming, hiking, shooting (his favorite and something he's good at), and all kinds of things. There were female camp counselors and male camp counselors, and no one said anything discriminatory that I heard about race, creed, color, or abilities. There were some jokes about girls, but that was to be expected, and my son and I discussed them afterward.

[dhol82]

13. say it anyhow

and see what happens. )

[zbdent]

10. Should have said something that he'd had his record hidden by the leaders

and that, if it weren't for their secrecy, and the fact that they love to hold scout meetings in churches (Catholic ones, at that), he'd likely be in jail for being a pedophile.

[hughee99]

18. Seriously? Making up a pedophilia claim isn't taking the high road

or even the low road, I think it's in a ditch about 40 feet below the low road. It's likely one of the only things a person could do to make the other guy seem sympathetic.

[Posteritatis]

19. Making incredibly legally actionable statements is rarely the height of wisdom in arguments. (nt)

[Arugula Latte]

11. Asshole. We didn't let our son join that disgusting group.

Instead we made our own group which included some kids of gay parents and kids of atheists (us included) as well other types of families.

[dballance]

16. I know it isn't possible for everyone to go to Costco rather than a WalMart/Sams Club

But I suggest anyone who can should shop Costco. If you'd had one you could have been shopping at you could have avoided all that frustration. If you do have one you can get to easily your message to the manager should be you'll be taking your business to Costco from now on.

[IVoteDFL]

17. You should have got them thrown out of the store.

Call Walmart and tell them. I'm sure they're more worried about losing customers than some doofus selling crappy donuts.