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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:36 PM

In answer to Lawrence O,Donnell

He votes third party because he lived in states that he says Democratic candidates never visit. I believe one was N.Y.
I lived in N.Y. and saw Eisenhower, Nixon, Kennedy and Reagan. Even shook hands with JFK. Saw Clinton in Florida and Michell Obama in Gainesville FL I am still very disappointed in Lawrence

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katmondoo Oct 2012 OP
hrmjustin Oct 2012 #1
apples and oranges Oct 2012 #2
hrmjustin Oct 2012 #4
flamingdem Oct 2012 #5
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #24
LisaL Oct 2012 #3
elleng Oct 2012 #7
RichGirl Oct 2012 #9
elleng Oct 2012 #13
apples and oranges Oct 2012 #16
LisaL Oct 2012 #19
elleng Oct 2012 #21
LisaL Oct 2012 #34
elleng Oct 2012 #6
ProSense Oct 2012 #8
elleng Oct 2012 #11
ProSense Oct 2012 #15
flamingdem Oct 2012 #10
RichGirl Oct 2012 #14
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #26
flamingdem Oct 2012 #30
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #33
flamingdem Oct 2012 #35
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #42
RichGirl Oct 2012 #12
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #28
Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #31
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #32
Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #36
Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #38
Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #41
LisaL Oct 2012 #17
rbrnmw Oct 2012 #20
Cha Oct 2012 #18
teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #22
teabaggersarestupid Oct 2012 #23
LisaL Oct 2012 #27
DevonRex Oct 2012 #25
Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #29
limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #37
Waiting For Everyman Oct 2012 #39
limpyhobbler Oct 2012 #40

Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:37 PM

1. Me too! I sent an e-mail to msnbc.com

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:39 PM

2. Me too. First time I've ever sent an email to a host

But his comments were way too irresponsible to let slide. What was he thinking???????????????

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Response to apples and oranges (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:41 PM

4. I hope a lot of people send messages to him. And it was my first one too.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:44 PM

5. +1 good

Lawrence just lost my vote!

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:28 AM

24. What did you say in your email? (nt)

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:40 PM

3. We should all give him a piece of our mind.

Gore could have been president if not for Nader.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:48 PM

7. You misssed Lawrence's point,

to vote 3d party in UNCONTESTED states, which did not, and does not include Florida.

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Response to elleng (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:53 PM

9. I got his point and he's wrong!

The popular vote DOES MATTER! It is stupid and irresponsible to vote as a lark. If you prefer the 3rd party, then vote for them. But for God's sake...the one vote you have should be for the person you want to win.

We need to all tweet O'Donnell and let him know he's an idiot. I did...twice!

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Response to RichGirl (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:59 PM

13. How does the popular vote matter?

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Response to elleng (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:05 AM

16. Don't forget the double standard. The teapublicans

would be relentless in pointing out that Obama didn't win the popular vote and is therefore not legitimate.

We need to make sure Obama has a mandate. It would help in governing, and it would show that a majority of Americans rejected the teaparty, republicans, and everything they stand for.

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Response to elleng (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:10 AM

19. WTF is an un-contested state?

PA? The difference there is less than 10 %. Michigan? The same-less than 10 %.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:14 AM

21. California and New York

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Response to elleng (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:19 AM

34. CA elected Arnold as a governor.

You can't take anything for granted.

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:45 PM

6. Wasn't he suggesting voting 3d party in uncontested states

like NY and CA to provide visibility to 3d party candidates who, in their debate yesterday, DID discuss issues MANY Dems (including DUers) wanted discussed in the 2-party debates most of us saw?

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Response to elleng (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:51 PM

8. The problem is that there are

a lot of down ballot races at stake. Also, I'm not sure why anyone would advocate peeling off the popular vote to possibly ensure Romney wins the popular vote.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:56 PM

11. If we're smart enough to vote 3d party to give visibility to issues they discuss,

we're smart enough to vote Dem down-ballot, and popular vote means nothing vis a vis President.

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Response to elleng (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:04 AM

15. We're talking about a large

voting population, which includes voters who are still undecided. To suggest that the popular vote doesn't matter is dangerous. It could also have the effect of depressing the vote.

The message should be GOTV and vote Democratic.

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Response to elleng (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:55 PM

10. It's not the time, we cannot afford to indulge in that because

the other side use fascistic methods, it's not about pushing this or that issue!

Lawrence isn't thinking, the only reason it's acceptable is if the person wouldn't otherwise vote, at least then it might help down ballot.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:03 AM

14. I really thought that after 2000....

People would have gotten over the ego trip of using their vote to make a statement. (The statement in 2000 turned out to be that "Our irresponsible voting cost us the election...woohoo!" Even Michael Moore who pushed it has owned up to that mistake.

Your vote has one purpose and that is to insure that the candidate of your choice wins the election.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:33 AM

26. Fear, fear, fear! Don't think just do!

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:47 AM

30. I don't think it's fear that would prompt my decision to vote for a Democrat instead of 3rd party!

If you're writing to me that is.. I don't see any third party candidate with the chops in the least for one and I think Obama is an excellent candidate. Occupy had its moment, we not moving to the left anytime soon.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:15 AM

33. Occupy is still carrying on all over this united states.. from supporting unions...

to protesting student debt, to blockading foreclosures, to shutting down the surveillance state. Occupy has only begun. All movements have taken decades to move a few feet towards their goal.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #33)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:36 AM

35. Agree, not anytime soon

Obama will do something about student loans and foreclosures. If they want to do something out of the mainstream how about climate change. Support the groups that are working against the pipeline. Remember the guy who did that and had congressmen getting arrested? Now that's leadership talent.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #35)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:20 AM

42. How about you tell ME about the guy who had congressmen get arrested.

I don't recall any congressmen getting arrested over the pipeline.

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Response to elleng (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:58 PM

12. If they had discussed everything everyone wanted them to discuss...

The debates would have lasted five hours! With access to so much information these days....we basically know everything about them and what they think anyway. A debate simply shows us how they interact, etc. Did anyone really want to see Obama and Romney argue over global warming? Romney would been pro or con, who the hell knows, and Obama would have had to call him out. Nothing new learned.

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Response to RichGirl (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:39 AM

28. Really. Please tell me what you have learned from these debates..

And yes, I would have liked to see a substantive different approach to climate change. I would have liked substantive different approach to poverty. I would have like too see a substantive different approach to the surveillance state.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:49 AM

31. Speaking of global warming,

did you watch Frontline last night?

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:01 AM

32. Not yet. But I intend to. I am pissed off that it wasn't addressed in the debates.

Do the elite think that they are immune from the effects?

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #32)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:14 AM

36. After you've had a chance to watch it,

I think you'll understand what has happened to the discussion about global warming, and it will PISS YOU OFF.

I think you might be interested in this report from our local news tonight (first in a continuing series) about Alaska's climate refugees. Western Alaska's Native villages are definitely the canaries in the coal mine. This is the story of just one of them. It's really worth reading Rhonda McBride's blog post and watching the video. Very eye-opening.

Newtok: Village on the Edge, Part One: Losing Ground

http://www.ktuu.com/news/reporters-notebook-a-preview-of-newtok-village-on-the-edge-102412,0,2150985.story

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Response to Blue_In_AK (Reply #36)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:38 AM

38. Wow! Thank you for that! When I was visiting my family in Delaware and Maryland..

(much of those states are slightly above, below, or at sea level) all the first page and headline news was concerned about rising water levels due to climate change. Few talk about these canaries in a coal mine.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:07 AM

41. They really should start talking about it.

Real people's lives are being affected in life-changing ways.

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Response to elleng (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:06 AM

17. Some so-called un-contested states are within 10% margin.

You lose 10 % of voters, you lose the states. And then you sit there with president Romney.
It's an outrageous thing to suggest.

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Response to elleng (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:10 AM

20. NOW is not the fucking time for this

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:08 AM

18. Thanks for all those who are contacting Lawrence on this.. I think

Pres Obama needs every Vote who wants to vote for him!

L O'D is great on so much but I don't agree with him on this.

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:16 AM

22. I'm in IL

 

and voted third party. Why the hell not? If I were in a battleground, I would vote Obama to prevent Romney from turning the U.S. into a third world country but any one of the third party candidates is better than Obama as they are not funded by corporate interests. I didn't realize this issue was that complicated and I'm surprised you guys are giving Lawrence such a hard time.

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Response to teabaggersarestupid (Reply #22)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:18 AM

23. Third party debate

 

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Response to teabaggersarestupid (Reply #23)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:36 AM

27. You do realize you are on Democratic Underground, do you?

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:31 AM

25. I'll email tomorrow

when I'm a bit more lucid. He pissed me off. Normally I like him. But no state is safe this year.

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:47 AM

29. None of them ever come to Alaska.

The VP candidates don't show up. They don't run any ads at all. The only presidential candidate that's come up here in my memory was Ron Paul.

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:22 AM

37. If it's NY, Obama has that locked up. So it should be fine.

Lawrence can vote third party without fear of helping Romney.

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:42 AM

39. Well he just blew his credibility with me bigtime.

That is an incredibly stupid thing to do, and to say.

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Response to katmondoo (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:02 AM

40. Please do not send emails complaining about Lawrence O'Donnell.

Do you have to complain just because an opinion show host on TV doesn't agree with you 110% ?

Actually he does agree with you 110%, he just had a slightly different thought on tactics.

This is one of the best shows on TV.

He is a real human TV host, not a robot. Do you want a robot that just sits and repeats Party-approved talking points?

Please be adult enough to allow for a slight difference of tactics by a show host without having to file a complaint with the business office.
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Note: I did not see the show, so I'm just going by what it says in the original post up top.

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