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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:52 PM

WTF? Is anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell?

What if everyone in blue states took his advice? The state would no longer be blue!

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Reply WTF? Is anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell? (Original post)
apples and oranges Oct 2012 OP
global1 Oct 2012 #1
Whiskeytide Oct 2012 #8
RichGirl Oct 2012 #14
LisaL Oct 2012 #16
flamingdem Oct 2012 #19
apples and oranges Oct 2012 #20
flamingdem Oct 2012 #22
apples and oranges Oct 2012 #24
nc4bo Oct 2012 #2
Ninga Oct 2012 #3
nc4bo Oct 2012 #7
apples and oranges Oct 2012 #21
hrmjustin Oct 2012 #4
apples and oranges Oct 2012 #10
Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #5
tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #6
drm604 Oct 2012 #9
jonpaulprime Oct 2012 #11
lafde Oct 2012 #12
quinnox Oct 2012 #13
katmondoo Oct 2012 #15
flamingdem Oct 2012 #17
JI7 Oct 2012 #18
rbrnmw Oct 2012 #23
stopbush Oct 2012 #25
Jamaal510 Oct 2012 #26

Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:53 PM

1. Not By A TV Tonight - What Is He Saying? Give Us More Info On This......nt

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Response to global1 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:56 PM

8. Encouraging viewers in solid blue...

... States to vote for a third party candidate on a lark on the premise that it doesnt matter. Irresponsible.

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:06 PM

14. The popular vote matters.

What's up with MSNBC????

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:15 PM

16. WTF is a solid blue state, even?

We have some that are less than 10 %. If 10 % switch to third party we lose the state. It's outrageous to suggest voting for third party at this point.

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 PM

19. Between you and me I'm sick to death of fake lefties who think if they vote Green Party etc

they are superior and they are the true rebels.

GROW UP!

Usually these people are in the academic world or fancy themselves intellectuals. But they're not interested in the quality of the third party candidate or their ability to lead, only in getting attention for themselves and their ideas.

You can dump on Obama all you want "lefties" but we have an election in 12 days and fascists on the other side. It's a lack of discipline and I bet none of these quasi-Marxists have ever dealt with real revolutions and seen what it's all about

Mama, it's about the poor needing theirs too and basic freedoms. It's very basic, it's not a Che tshirt. They want what Lawrence has, ha ha, a house in the canyon in L.A. and all the power to say what he wants on tv.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:29 PM

20. They expect others to pick up the slack for them

They get to vote their "heart," while expecting the rest of us to vote based on reality.

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Response to apples and oranges (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:39 PM

22. That's why I don't take it easily when someone I know talks third party

I try, I try, but inside I am pissed because we are so lucky to have Obama working for us against these forces that are so negative and so powerful. They won't even get it later when the party has trouble coming up with someone with his talent, or someone who wants to deal with the stress involved.

A friend just told me he voted for Nader and only because we're in California, still mad at him even though it was a while ago! He'll never know I feel this way but I can't help but start to correlate that choice with other aspects of his personality. At least he knew it wouldn't be okay in a swing state.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #22)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:53 PM

24. Same here. Glad to know I'm not the only one

That same debate that Lawrence is so in awe of has caused a close friend of mine to "pull a romney" and go third party 2 weeks before the election! He's in a blue state but I got off the phone thinking that the friendship was over, not just because of the erratic switch based on very little facts, but also because it's yet another bad decision to add to the growing pile of bad decisions he's making in other areas of his life.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:54 PM

2. Came in on the end - refreshed DU page hoping for explanation.

What did I just catch the end of - something about voting for 3rd party candidates if you're in California because it will always be blue and your 3rd party vote won't mean much then he went into the 3rd party vote in a swing state......

Need to watch the video when they get it up.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:54 PM

3. Sometimes the mouth doesn't check-in with the brain. So goes his wacky idea. N/t

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Response to Ninga (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:56 PM

7. Said he votes in Cali(?) and voted 3rd party every year except 1 where he voted for a GE winner.

I am lost with his point.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:30 PM

21. I think he's admitting that he didn't vote for Clinton or Obama

Oops!

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:55 PM

4. What was he thinking when he said that. We want Obama to win the popular vote too.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:58 PM

10. That too! This is the first time I've been disappointed in

O'Donnell. He's usually spot on. This race 50% to 48.9%. This is NOT the time for game playing. Our future is at stake and if there is a tie, then the house would love to use a popular vote loss as part of their reason for picking Robme!

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:55 PM

5. Obama needs the popular vote too.

We want the largest possible mandate.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:55 PM

6. I was wondering if I was the only one who thought his 3rd party advocacy was strange

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:57 PM

9. I turned it off, to prevent the destruction of my TV.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:02 PM

11. I love Lawrence but

he's wrong sometimes. If I recall correctly, he predicted Tim Pawlenty would get the Republican nomination for president.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:03 PM

12. Lawrence

What the fuck man...He want us to lose an election. We havent learn anything from nader?
what everone in cali takes his advise, andvotes for third party....we need conservative third
party to take vote from robme but not other way around

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:04 PM

13. lol, he has turned into a third party cheerleader

 

this is unexpected.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:13 PM

15. I turned him off too

he has been one of my favorites now I don't know. Every President will at one time or another sign a bill you don't like. You have to think of the overall effect of what he does and what he thinks that would effect America and the American people. I haven't always agreed with Obama but I don't see Mitt or any third party candidate that would better. Mitt scares me even more than Bush did.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:20 PM

17. Big Fail Lawrence, another pundit has to toot his horn

and we're not interested. It's not the time.

F*ck you for even reminding us of Nader

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 PM

18. Romney's Rise in National Polls have a lot to do with his rise in Solid Red States

popular vote matters. i try to get as many people as i can to get out and vote for Obama.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:52 PM

23. I had to calm down I am so pissed at Lawrence O'Donnell

that is very irresponsible advice Bush wouldn't have won twice if Ralph Nader had just gotten behind Al Gore in 2000 who was very strong on the Environment and John Kerry in 2004. People like O'Donnell and Michael Moore need to STFU and get over themselves GAWD I'M PISSED I'm disabled my husband doesn't have fucking job we are facing eviction and our gas was shut off today we have 4 kids Mitt Romney doesn't give a fuck about me but President Obama does. I have been working my ass off volunteering to help get President Obama reelected, only to have a 1%er like O'Donnell tell people to waste their fucking votes on a 3rd party. What the fuck is up with this bullshit???


and for those who wondering why I have cable and internet I don't I have an old laptop and I get a WiFi signal and stream MSNBC from the internet

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:38 AM

25. Face it, if everybody who watches Lawrence in the non-swing blue states voted third party

it wouldn't make a bit of difference.

That's because the size of Lawrence's audience is insignificant in the scheme of things.

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Response to apples and oranges (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 02:07 AM

26. See, this what I like about this site and my fellow Democrats.

Unlike the wingnuts, we don't always agree with and get our marching orders from media pundits.

This has to be the WORST advice I have ever heard from Lawrence O. If a significant number of Democratic voters in say, California, vote for somebody like Stein instead of Obama, then things would get scary for us in a hurry. We already have about 35% of the voting population as Republicans--we don't need to help out the enemy by splitting votes with a non-viable candidate. Besides, I think Obama is doing a pretty damn good job as president, despite inheriting the biggest deficit in history and being obstructed by Congress along the way.

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