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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:38 PM

Pennsylvania Bill Includes Provision Requiring Women To PROVE THEY WERE RAPED!







A bill in the Pennsylvania House proposing the reduction of welfare benefits for low-income women contains a provision requiring a woman who became pregnant from rape to prove that she reported her assault.



As ThinkProgress reported, the measure, proposed by five Republican state lawmakers, seeks to eliminate an increase in benefits if a child is conceived while a woman is covered under the Temporary Assistance To Needy Family program. A woman can seek an exception to this if the child is conceived as a result of rape. However, she must prove that she reported the incident to the authorities and gave the police her assaulter's identity. The bill reads:




Elimination of benefits under subsection (d) shall not apply to any child conceived as a result of rape or incest if the department: (1) receives a non-notarized, signed statement from the pregnant woman stating that she was a victim of rape or incest, as the case may be, and that she reported the crime, including the identity of the offender, if known, to a law enforcement agency having the requisite jurisdiction or, in the case of incest where a pregnant minor is the victim, to the county child protective service agency and stating the name of the law enforcement agency or child protective service agency to which the report was made and the date such report was made.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&sessYr=2011&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=2718&pn=4295







http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/pennsylvania-welfare-benefits-rape_n_2012417.html

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:40 PM

1. So if a woman was raped by someone she didn't know, she is out of lack?

What do republicans call rape by a stranger?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:44 PM

4. ", if known," would the operative phrase. nt

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:53 PM

7. A random blessing from above

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:56 PM

8. "If known" is definitly the operative...

If not known, there is the ambiguity. If she knows who it is, she has to divulge who it is. If not, and she says she does not know, then someone, anyone can challenge it including the state. Then she would have to prove she didn't know who it was.

What if she didn't know who it was but then later finds out it was someone she knew and couldn't recognize? There's the ambiguity that will keep her and the courts and the lawyers and the state wasting time and money.

Why the hell don't we just have universal health care? Period?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:43 PM

2. A bunch of sitting fucks. (nt)

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Response to enough (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:45 PM

5. Squatting fucks!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:44 PM

3. OUTrageous! Women BEWARE, no doesn't mean no, in Pennsylvania! nt

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:52 PM

6. Handily in Pennsylvania. Can the GOP propose similar bills in other swing states?

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:17 PM

9. What shocks me...

Is the requirement that a minor child who is the victim of incest is required to make a report. So, a little girl (and with puberty occurring younger every year, she may indeed be a little girl) who is pregnant because Daddy raped her is supposed to risk Daddy's anger by reporting on him, and will be punished if she does not.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:21 PM

10. Republicans spend a lot of time further victimizing victims.

 

Is that a coward thing or a bully thing?

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Response to porphyrian (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 PM

11. Both! Bullies ARE Cowards.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:20 AM

12. I thought it was a satire, to mock Republican as Talibans or muslim extremists who stoned raped...

 

victims. I think this is a dangerous consequence of US involvement in Afghanistan, Pakistan. Whatever in those Afghan tribes is infecting Republicans now.

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Response to JackN415 (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:45 AM

13. The republicans ARE the Taliban.

They put their sick ideology ahead of a woman's health, safety or concerns.


They're trying to push woman back into the stone ages by keeping them bare footed and pregnant and out of the work force.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:53 AM

14. And it's co-sponsored by... a woman.

RoseMarie Swanger (R)

It's hard to fight against this sort of thing, when we have to fight women too.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:58 AM

15. Afghan, Pakistan women also execute honor killing on their own daughters

 

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:02 AM

16. I wonder how DU's own anti-choice faction feels about it. Oh wait, they don't want a rape exception.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:05 AM

17. Oh now that's just asking for all sorts of trouble

Some women don't report rape because they are too afraid of the rapist and fear being hurt for reporting it. And some women are going to falsely report rape if a law like this exists. Both scenarios are horrible. This law is not well thought through.

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