Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:15 PM
Botany (36,027 posts)
Rape .... a man's story
I have never written about this but here I go .....
Years ago I had a good friend die as the result of fighting a rapist ...... I knew she wanted more out of her relationship w/ me than I was willing to give but she had one the best and truest hearts in the world. She got shot in the throat but still she was able to call 9-11 but because of her wounds she had a loss of oxygen to her brain and which caused a vegetative coma ..... she died w/ in 18 months .... both of her elderly parents died because of the stress with in a year of the crime too. The police later arrested a serial rapist ... a detective told me that he was a good suspect in the attack on my friend. I would not go to his trial on another rape case because of what I wanted to do that man ...... it still bothers me to have to kill a woodchuck in a live trap @ a customer's home but I would have had no problem "spending time" w/ that piece of crap. These are feelings that I have had deep inside of me and after time i don't think about my friend anymore or her attacker but when these scum buckets bring up rape in a political context it puts me in a very bad place. How dare these bastards talk about rape, God's plan, and what they think is the right thing to do? If you are a woman or you have ever cared about a woman how could you vote ever for "them"?
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29 replies, 2372 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Botany | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| Darth_Kitten | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| jonpaulprime | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| riderinthestorm | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Tigress DEM | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Botany | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| NRaleighLiberal | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| gkhouston | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| NRaleighLiberal | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
| Sparkly | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| ProudProgressiveNow | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| freshwest | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| nolabear | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| myrna minx | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| blkmusclmachine | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| Marmitist | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| condoleeza | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| condoleeza | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| bleever | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| beac | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| Stargazer09 | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| renate | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| noiretextatique | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| gkhouston | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| REP | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| War Horse | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| rhett o rick | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
| David Zephyr | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
| Schema Thing | Oct 2012 | #29 |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:18 PM
Darth_Kitten (14,192 posts)
1. I'm so sorry for your friend, her family, and you.
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I can't imagine having that much rage and pain brought up constantly.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:18 PM
jonpaulprime (101 posts)
2. powerful
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powerful story, thank you for sharing. The Republican War on Women is all too real.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:20 PM
riderinthestorm (13,153 posts)
3. No words are adequate to express my solidarity, horror, grief and regret
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Please know that there are a lot of DUers who are always here to listen though.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:21 PM
Tigress DEM (7,167 posts)
4. So sorry for your loss. He raped her, but stole your life that you two could have had.
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About women voting for Robme.... Some people are brainwashed. I'd never vote for Robme.
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Response to Tigress DEM (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:24 PM
Botany (36,027 posts)
9. He did not rape her .... she put up a fight
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my life has been good over all but when idiot men talk about
rape it still gets to me. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:23 PM
NRaleighLiberal (28,577 posts)
5. you took their easy talking points, and by humanizing it, created great power.
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As a man with three women he adores (wife and two daughters), the right wings' attitudes toward women are simply indescribable.
Thanks for sharing your story. It certainly deeply moved me. |
Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #5)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:03 PM
gkhouston (21,642 posts)
22. And here's the thing that many RW followers don't get: they don't give a shit about men, either. nt
Response to gkhouston (Reply #22)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:34 PM
NRaleighLiberal (28,577 posts)
26. indeed - only themselves, money and power.
Response to Botany (Original post)
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:24 PM
ProudProgressiveNow (3,239 posts)
7. Powerful testimony.
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Thank you.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:24 PM
freshwest (31,286 posts)
8. Botany, thank you for memorializing this here and your opinion.
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Words are not adequate to give comfort here. I only have tears.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:27 PM
nolabear (14,668 posts)
10. Rape harms more people than we can ever know. I'm so sorry you're being retraumatized.
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There's a smugness to the pronouncements the RW makes, a lack of understanding and empathy and compassion that I find truly hard to fathom. The only succor we can provide is to create a world where rape is almost unheard of, and when it does happen the victim and those who love her (or him) are treated with love, with respect, and are given choices and help with going on with their lives as best they can.
And we can create that through mAking those RW fools and their ideas a thing of the past. It was brave of you to post. Peace. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:28 PM
blkmusclmachine (2,843 posts)
12. Sad. Look at this if you have a chance:
Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:33 PM
Marmitist (64 posts)
13. You feel bad, because the woodchuck is an innocent creature, who, bothersome though they may be...
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Doesn't deserve to be exterminated. There is no innocence to these Republican bastards.
Too bad we can't treat them they way that we do the woodchucks... Fortunately, the old, angry white man contingent is dying off, so nature is doing that for us. Within less than a generation there will still be people who vote Republican, but there will not be a viable national party left. They'll win local, and state contests, and there will still be a smattering of Republicans who get into the House and the Senate, but after we reach that tipping point, they'll never have a majority of either house of Congress ever again, and they'll never win the Presidency again either. Mark my words, it's coming, more slowly than I would prefer, but it IS coming. They know it, hence their desperate employment of every dirty trick in the book to try and forestall their own political demise for one (hopefully) last time. Karl Rove once spoke of his hope to create a "permanent Republican majority"... Well, thanks to the cacophany of complete and utter lunatic assholes who comprise the Right today, we (again, hopefully) will have a permanent Democratic majority for years, nay, decades to come. A-Fucking-Men! |
Response to Marmitist (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:45 PM
condoleeza (751 posts)
15. I hope you're right, Marmitist n/t
Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:43 PM
condoleeza (751 posts)
14. Thank you, it's important to talk about this
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Anyone who has been raped or sexually assaulted or knows someone who has, is reliving it now and if you multiply just the female statistics of 1 in 3 by the age of 18, that touches a lot of people who were victimized or had loved ones who were, female and male. I'm just so tired of reliving my own family nightmare every 4 years, so tired of the men who make rape/reproduction/abortion etc. an issue in every election, when they so clearly are just pandering to their party's religious convictions and really don't give a shit.
God, the absolute stupidity of nearly half the people in this country is just so depressing. That's what religion does and why I'm an Atheist. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:22 PM
bleever (20,599 posts)
16. Thank you, sir.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:44 PM
beac (9,340 posts)
17. Thank you.
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Rape is a CRIME. The GOP claims to be the party of law and order but, to them, rape is a "gift from God"/"just another method of conception"/rarely "legitimate".
How can ANYONE, man or woman, vote for these rape lovers????? |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:16 AM
Stargazer09 (1,072 posts)
18. Hugs
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I am sick of hearing that rape isn't such a bad thing. It brings back the trauma for me, too.
It hurts. A lot. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:37 AM
renate (7,923 posts)
19. oh, i am so sorry
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He stole three lives and left a gaping hole in yours. There just aren't words for how cruel and how horrible that was, but you did a wonderful job of describing her inner being--which that beast could never touch--and of expressing your pain.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:52 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,342 posts)
20. They are using God to justify their evil....
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And the thing is,...they know it....
They also know they have created a loyal following that actually believes they are showing them the way to heaven. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 04:59 PM
noiretextatique (21,311 posts)
21. these bastards think of rape as "rough sex"
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they don't think about the women, like your dear friend, as victims of violence. instead, they identify with rapists and their demon seed. disgusting, they whole lot of 'em
i aborted a rapist's seed, and never, ever regretted it. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:04 PM
gkhouston (21,642 posts)
23. Botany, you have always been my fave.
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:19 PM
War Horse (557 posts)
25. What saddens me the most
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is that it's really, really necessary that such horrible stories really HAVE to be brought to the forefront for some people to even come close "getting it".
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Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:45 PM
rhett o rick (26,618 posts)
27. Why do women vote republican? nm
Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:59 PM
David Zephyr (22,583 posts)
28. Sorry to hear that, Botany. Rape is rape. It's not "God's will".
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These Republican men seem so comfortable talking about rape so casually and pontificating about it. They are scum.
K&R. |
Response to Botany (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:39 PM
Schema Thing (8,565 posts)
29. ugh... this gets at me because I was raised in a religion that told women they should fight to the
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death to avoid rape. Yep. Otherwise they might be "committing fornication". Hell if I dug deep enough I could probably find a Watchtower that claims the child produced from rape is a gift from Jehovah. Whether they said that or not, they sure as hell wouldn't let you abort it, that's for damn sure. I shit you not. I knew / but did not know that they were wrong. It screws with a young person's mind. |

