Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:41 PM

Brother thinks the country won't last past 2030 no matter who wins

He's a registered independent. He's got probably the strangest voting record ever. He voted for Perot when he first could vote, then Nader, then Bush, then Obama. Now he's saying he's going to vote for Gary Johnson.

Anyway, he's 100% convinced the country's economy will collapse by 2030. There is no way to talk him out of that theory. He said neither political party will fix the problems, America is in decline, and no matter who wins we will be in worse shape in 4 years.

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Brother thinks the country won't last past 2030 no matter who wins (Original post)	davidn3600	Oct 2012	OP
Okay	ladyrain	Oct 2012	#1
And often the US is its own worst enemy. n/t	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#5
Your right. We have to stop this nonsense of saying we are an "exceptional" country. No	southernyankeebelle	Oct 2012	#14
If we continue our current moronic course, China, Russia and India are going to	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#23
Anyplace that believes in science will leave this country behind	hifiguy	Oct 2012	#37
When I was in R&D, we used to say the geeks will inherit the universe. I still often think of	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#40
It's two basic factors	hifiguy	Oct 2012	#41
I'm with Gene Roddenberry! n/t	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#52
Yeah, that's pretty much it in a nutshell . . . .	hatrack	Oct 2012	#54
+1	ProudProgressiveNow	Oct 2012	#46
I remember in the mid 50s when I was a kid we were stationed in Frankfurt, Germany.	southernyankeebelle	Oct 2012	#61
Obama tries to make it better and the damn fool republicans AKA teabaggers heavily	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#67
Romney will accelerate our demise, for sure	NoMoreWarNow	Oct 2012	#10
Welcome to DU!	Motown_Johnny	Oct 2012	#16
Anyone can throw an even-numbered prediction out there.	randome	Oct 2012	#2
Well, I think he's onto something. I don't have the optimism either for the US I once had ... n/t	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#3
What makes him think we'll survive the winter solstice?	Lasher	Oct 2012	#4
"Winter is Coming"	lalalu	Oct 2012	#9
If we don't come together and do some innovative things, he might be right.	Hoyt	Oct 2012	#6
Just tell him the same was said during the Great Depression.	lalalu	Oct 2012	#7
Well said!!! n/t	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#24
There's some important differences between the depression era vs. today	Ya Basta	Oct 2012	#33
South American countries had greater wealth at the time.	lalalu	Oct 2012	#42
lots of doomsayers like him-- it's part of the conspiracy industry	NoMoreWarNow	Oct 2012	#8
Tell your brother he's off the mark, Dec. 21, 2012	justiceischeap	Oct 2012	#11
+1	ProudProgressiveNow	Oct 2012	#47
Geez I thought it was over in 2012!	demo dutch	Oct 2012	#12
No, I think it supposed to happen sometime in December this year	notadmblnd	Oct 2012	#13
Nuclear weapon , civil wars , governments broke , people hungry	former-republican	Oct 2012	#15
who cares? I'll be not collecting my social security by then anyway	aletier_v	Oct 2012	#17
nobody is talking about CLIMATE CHANGE	upi402	Oct 2012	#18
Thats a good point	davidn3600	Oct 2012	#21
It is predicted that once northern arctic sea ice disappears, earth will warm even faster.	Selatius	Oct 2012	#25
but if the number of brown people increases, and white people decreases	aletier_v	Oct 2012	#34
Seems like it will snowball	upi402	Oct 2012	#56
Global warmin is a liberal hoax	Strelnikov_	Oct 2012	#30
There will still be a biosphere.	jeff47	Oct 2012	#51
I dsagree. I think the U.S. could last well into 2031.	Speck Tater	Oct 2012	#19
Personally, I'm not sure the US would last to 2100 without one major civil war.	Selatius	Oct 2012	#29
Read the book "Better Off Without 'Em".	Speck Tater	Oct 2012	#43
I loved that book.	Brigid	Oct 2012	#60
The world actually ended in 1844. This is a simulation. n/t	dimbear	Oct 2012	#20
Bingo!!! n/t	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#27
Or, there is no "world" and never was.	Speck Tater	Oct 2012	#72
Tell him to turn on Piers and see Trump	Tutonic	Oct 2012	#22
Well.. a few things	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2012	#26
One area in which we could save is to eliminate being the police of the	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#28
Agree 100%	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2012	#32
+1	ProudProgressiveNow	Oct 2012	#49
Jefferson also hated bankers.	hifiguy	Oct 2012	#36
Years past it seemed there was more wisdom, but as time has passed the	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#38
the country will last but not the way it is now.	madrchsod	Oct 2012	#31
It is a distinct possibility.	hifiguy	Oct 2012	#35
Sadly, that is quite true. The nation is still reeling from the effects of Reagan, then a	RKP5637	Oct 2012	#39
So your brother is a silly crank...we have lots of those everywhere	alcibiades_mystery	Oct 2012	#44
+1	JHB	Oct 2012	#69
Every generation thinks theirs is the last...	SomethingFishy	Oct 2012	#45
If benevolent, Vulcan-like aliens landed on Earth	hifiguy	Oct 2012	#62
Right, but younger generations are seeing their standard of living and life expectancies decrease	Romulox	Oct 2012	#64
Absolutely true, however	SomethingFishy	Oct 2012	#68
I have a cousin like that	Hamlette	Oct 2012	#48
It's possible, but	Retrograde	Oct 2012	#50
I think it's a real possibility.	Ganja Ninja	Oct 2012	#53
brother doesn't live in the present or near future, eh?not exactly a fucking genius.	cali	Oct 2012	#55
I'm also in the line of thinking that America's best days might be behind it	cherish44	Oct 2012	#57
I just want to get through next week with a dry house.	WinkyDink	Oct 2012	#58
I imagine many people were saying the same thing in the 1850 and 1860s,	NYC Liberal	Oct 2012	#59
I tend to agree that this country is on its last legs. Inequality, poverty, lack of opportunity...	Romulox	Oct 2012	#63
As Long As The World Uses Our Currency As Its Reserve Currency, We Will Be Fine	Yavin4	Oct 2012	#65
Screw the parties...what about..	workinclasszero	Oct 2012	#66
Congratulations, your brother is a Ron Paul supporter.	Arkana	Oct 2012	#70
He sounds like someone who fits a "type" I've read about.	progressivebydesign	Oct 2012	#71
always beware of alarmist statements like this	hiphopnation	Oct 2012	#73
Cheers!	bvar22	Oct 2012	#74
I have a wacky brother like that too.	tjwash	Oct 2012	#75

Response to RKP5637 (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:53 PM

southernyankeebelle (10,725 posts)

14. Your right. We have to stop this nonsense of saying we are an "exceptional" country. No

are no more exceptional than any other country. We are destroying ourselves thanks to this blue/red divide. We don't need to worry about outside countries invading us.

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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:02 PM

RKP5637 (25,602 posts)

23. If we continue our current moronic course, China, Russia and India are going to

leave the US in the dust in the not too distant future. In my lifetime the US has gone from being admired to now often the fools of the world. Much of the US sits around bickering and many in the world have moved on into the 21st century.

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Brother thinks the country won't last past 2030 no matter who wins

1. Okay

5. And often the US is its own worst enemy. n/t

14. Your right. We have to stop this nonsense of saying we are an "exceptional" country. No

23. If we continue our current moronic course, China, Russia and India are going to