| Author | Time | Post | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| DonCoquixote | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| kerouac2 | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Blue Idaho | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| Blue Idaho | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| AlinPA | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| Blue Idaho | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| ProudProgressiveNow | Oct 2012 | #29 | |
| Samantha | Oct 2012 | #39 | |
| Blue Idaho | Oct 2012 | #41 | |
| Samantha | Oct 2012 | #42 | |
| H2O Man | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| burrowowl | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| marions ghost | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| marions ghost | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
| MrsBrady | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| BarKim | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| abumbyanyothername | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| abumbyanyothername | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| morningfog | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| Motown_Johnny | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| Motown_Johnny | Oct 2012 | #40 | |
| TardisBlue | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| naturallyselected | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #30 | |
| smackd | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #31 | |
| ProudProgressiveNow | Oct 2012 | #32 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #34 | |
| jberryhill | Oct 2012 | #33 | |
| flamingdem | Oct 2012 | #35 | |
| jberryhill | Oct 2012 | #38 | |
| GeorgeGist | Oct 2012 | #36 | |
| mick063 | Oct 2012 | #37 |
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:40 PM
DonCoquixote (5,636 posts)
1. I love RM, but
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I do hope this is not another MSNBC "you know, we are still going to lose" piece. Tweety did enough damage.
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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:42 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
2. This was my first reaction and I turned it off
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Then I noticed that David Zepher had written on Romney's strategy to get to 269 and I thought we had better listen up, we'll see.
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:45 PM
kerouac2 (248 posts)
3. Interesting point about Maine and Nebraska 1EV
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Romney's dumping ads in the one Maine area in hopes of getting 1 ev. Pretty slick. Hopefully Obama's dumping some bucks there and in the 1 Nebraska area that he won last time for 1 EV...
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:50 PM
Blue Idaho (1,096 posts)
4. Sorry - I'm not buying what Rachel is selling.
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:51 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) The 269 story is the handwringing meme of the moment.
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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:53 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
5. We have to keep in mind that news
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has to be entertainment in this country. That said this is probably what the Rmoney team hopes for, but from what I'm seeing that's all they've got - a Hail Mary fluffed up with unrealistic hope
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Response to flamingdem (Reply #5)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:57 PM
Blue Idaho (1,096 posts)
7. There is no news - there is only entertainment.
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The M$M closed their news divisions decades ago and rolled all the employees into the entertainment division of their networks.
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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:03 PM
AlinPA (13,712 posts)
11. The employees are all actors - entertainers. There are no journalists on CNN, Fox and MSNBC.
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:08 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Producers run it all.
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Response to AlinPA (Reply #11)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
14. Too bad the BBC doesn't set up shop in NYC
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I'd switch to them but they probably would get chased out with msm pitchforks
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Response to AlinPA (Reply #11)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:09 PM
Blue Idaho (1,096 posts)
21. Amen!
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Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley are spinning in their graves.
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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:29 PM
ProudProgressiveNow (3,239 posts)
29. +1
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Sadly true. I miss the NEWS.
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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:32 PM
Samantha (5,997 posts)
39. I just posted this on the other thread; Nate Silver gives this scenario a .7% chance of happening
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http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/
I do think there will be a lot of unorthodox maneuvers to throw the election Romney's way so I am in agreement with those on guard in that arena. Sam |
Response to Samantha (Reply #39)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:19 AM
Blue Idaho (1,096 posts)
41. Thank You! nt.
Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #41)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:33 AM
Samantha (5,997 posts)
42. Looks like it has dropped from .7% to .5% today
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Scenario Analysis
Electoral College tie (269 electoral votes for each candidate) 0.5% http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/ Sam |
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:54 PM
H2O Man (48,605 posts)
6. Recommended.
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Thank you for posting this.
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Response to H2O Man (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:15 PM
burrowowl (8,972 posts)
25. She does make a point of
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the reading of the Constitution.
May we not come to this! Love ya H2O Man! |
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:57 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
8. This would require losing NV
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and that seems unlikely
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Response to flamingdem (Reply #8)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:01 PM
marions ghost (13,954 posts)
9. whew
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GOTV battleground states! |
Response to marions ghost (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:04 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
12. That was pretty terrifying
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The worst being Rmoney as President with Biden nipping his heels followed closely by President ... hic Boehner ... the free world would go nuts, who's watching the button, he's always wasted at 3am!
Darn those Founding Fathers they didn't think enough about crazy Republicans! |
Response to flamingdem (Reply #12)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:27 PM
marions ghost (13,954 posts)
28. Yeah scary
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that solution seems kinda archaic.
Just count the blinking popular votes. |
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:02 PM
MrsBrady (4,047 posts)
10. this seems really unlikely to me
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and I don't know why she's wasting her time on this...
unless she's just geeking out....which she tends to do. Usually I like that about her...but |
Response to MrsBrady (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:05 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
13. That was irresistable for her and she set us up
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She stood up, made it dramatic, and horrified us with a scenario that's not going to happen.. but could!
Kind of a script for a horror film |
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
BarKim (48 posts)
15. I want my mommy now!
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She just scared the living shit out me!!!!!
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Response to BarKim (Reply #15)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:09 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
20. What do you mean it would be fun to have President Boehner
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as the most powerful person in the world.. that would NOT help his drinking problem
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
abumbyanyothername (2,711 posts)
16. Tune into C-Span (350 on DirecTV)
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They are now going through the Florida election in painstaking detail with both Republican and Democratic spokespersons carefully answering phone calls and tweets, with a moderator taking control of the discussion and all in all being very informative.
Even lunatic callers get treated with respect and their questions are answered in detail and with clarity. |
Response to abumbyanyothername (Reply #16)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:08 PM
abumbyanyothername (2,711 posts)
19. Tomorrow
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they will be covering NV, I think.
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:07 PM
morningfog (4,201 posts)
17. I mentioned this at the beginning of the month, but still am not worried about it.
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:08 PM
Motown_Johnny (15,463 posts)
18. I think she missed a trick
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As I understand it, and I could easily be wrong, if a state has an even split between (R) and (D) Representatives in it's state's caucus then that state does not vote to elect a President (assuming a 269-269 finish).
It is also my understanding that a majority must be reached in The House. She touched on a 25-25 tie but didn't go into it any more than that. The House must get to 26 state caucuses all voting for the same guy or they don't have an outcome in the vote. ^Disclaimer^ I am getting a lot of this from a thread that was up here on Saturday. If the other posters are wrong than so am I. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1589540 |
Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #18)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:11 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
23. Someone else just posted that thread
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it seems more like a curiosity for political geekland .. here's hoping anyway
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Response to flamingdem (Reply #23)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:17 AM
Motown_Johnny (15,463 posts)
40. Yes, I think the entire discussion is a curiosity for political geekland
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but when in geekland do as the geeks do.
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:09 PM
TardisBlue (56 posts)
22. IF. IF. IF. If a bullfrog had wings, then he wouldn't bump his butt!
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President Obama is kicking butt on the campaign trail and we need to GOTV. I do enjoy RM, but encouraging this 'close race' narrative is getting old simply because it isn't true.
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Response to TardisBlue (Reply #22)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:12 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
24. Yes, they need to give it up
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the excitement is going to be diminished but how much more do they want to squeeze out of the campaigns? The law of diminishing returns has kicked in.
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:23 PM
naturallyselected (37 posts)
26. I don't buy it
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Between now and Election Day, the President will solidify his lead (more likely), or the tide will turn, and Romney will take a lead (less likely). I know the national popular vote isn't what determines who wins the White House, but these battleground states aren't all that different than anywhere else. They're just the places where things are close. If President Obama gains in national popularity, his lead in the "safe"states will be bigger, and he'll take the majority of the swing states. If Romney gains in popularity nationally, his lead in his safe states will be bigger, and he'll take more of the swing states.
It's probably intuition more than anything else, but I just don't see an even split of the battleground states. I worry a lot more about Romney taking more of these states than expected, than things working out so that there is a tie. I hope the President solidifies his lead, and almost all of the swing states go his way, and maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I believe the rational part of my brain thinks that will be the outcome too. I just hope President Obama finds a way to do it without needing Ohio, as I don't trust the vote count in that state at all. The chances Maine's electoral votes will be split? Not likely - I live here, and that second district elected a Democrat to be their House representative, Michaud has a big lead in the polls, and I don't see that district going to Romney, no matter how much they saturate the airwaves. The only reason we have the teabag nutcase we have for governor is a fluke 3-way election. All of Maine is safe for the President. I don't think this election will be as close as many think. I'm hoping and thinking Obama will win big, but if Romney does, it won't be that close either. |
Response to naturallyselected (Reply #26)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:35 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
30. Good to hear about Maine
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I wasn't sure with your governor if the state had gone rightward. So happy to hear that's not the case. I used to go to Monhegan Island sometimes as a kid and lived in Vermont, even hitchhiked through Maine a couple of times and really love the state. I think Ohio is in the bag and while I am worried about tricks at least they are on it, 2000 incidents already addressed by the Obama team, and so many exit polls will make it difficult to grab. Also Nevada seems sure now, it's nerve wracking but much less this week than last! Ed had a a guest yesterday, the Rep. from Ohio who said she's not that worried about the voting machines because they've been certified. fingers crossed!
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:25 PM
smackd (191 posts)
27. don't see it happening...IA, CO, NV, OH = all going to O (nm)
Response to smackd (Reply #27)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:35 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
31. I agree
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We've got a good scenario and Obama and team don't fool around!
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:41 PM
ProudProgressiveNow (3,239 posts)
32. President Boehner?
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The Apocalypse is this year according to some.
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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #32)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:42 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
34. We might as well start drinking
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Leadership flows from the top they say, plus the Mayas have the apocolypse lined up for 12.12.12
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Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:41 PM
jberryhill (29,904 posts)
33. Props for "Rachel" and "69" in a subject line!
Response to jberryhill (Reply #33)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:45 PM
flamingdem (22,749 posts)
35. Isn't it funny how a mention of "69" just jumps off the page like that?
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Something to try another time in a title to see if the theory holds.
or Poll Blah leads Bleh 69% to 31% - people would click.. |
Response to flamingdem (Reply #35)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:09 PM
jberryhill (29,904 posts)
38. "click"?
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:58 PM
GeorgeGist (9,559 posts)
36. Cocktail Time.
Response to flamingdem (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:01 PM
mick063 (1,082 posts)
37. The President will get 330 plus
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Why all the hand wringing? |

