Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:50 PM
RadiationTherapy (4,825 posts)
Obama's Margin of Victory: How Much Does He Need For A Mandate Like Bush Had in 2004?
It might be fun to have that ready for the day after. Obama's Mandate. hahahahahha
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18 replies, 828 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| RadiationTherapy | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| former9thward | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| Coyotl | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| GoCubsGo | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| craigmatic | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| budkin | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Renew Deal | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Scuba | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| doc03 | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| PoliticAverse | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| RadiationTherapy | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| OmahaBlueDog | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| RadiationTherapy | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| RadiationTherapy | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| outsideworld | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| RadiationTherapy | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| outsideworld | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| upi402 | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| Jack Rabbit | Oct 2012 | #18 |
Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:52 PM
former9thward (6,392 posts)
1. The margin of victory will mean little.
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He needs the House and filibuster proof Senate (Do not depend on Reid changing the rule no matter what he says).
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Response to former9thward (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:12 PM
Coyotl (5,155 posts)
8. This will have some great coattailing
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Plus, there are very good candidates this year. Look at heidi in ND, for example, kicking Berg big time in a very red state.
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Response to former9thward (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:20 PM
GoCubsGo (13,008 posts)
14. Yep. He had a mandate in 2008.
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The republicans refused to recognize it. I don't see that changing, unless the Democrats win both houses of Congress and change the rules to prevent the kind of obstruction we saw over the past four years.
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:55 PM
craigmatic (3,200 posts)
2. 290 something because bush had like 286. Really I'd prefer 300+ that would be a mandate.
Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:58 PM
budkin (3,086 posts)
3. If it's like Bush's "mandate" it will not be one
Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:59 PM
Renew Deal (56,927 posts)
4. 1 vote
Response to Renew Deal (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Scuba (26,746 posts)
6. You beat me to it.
Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
doc03 (13,838 posts)
5. If he got 538 EV and 90% of the popular vote
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the Republicans wouldn't admit it was a mandate.
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:11 PM
PoliticAverse (5,537 posts)
7. 2004 Popular vote: Bush - 50.7%, Kerry - 48.3%. Bush had no mandate. n/t
Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:13 PM
RadiationTherapy (4,825 posts)
12. Well, I may choose to cite a "Bush mandate" to my conservative friends just out of spite.
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hahahaha
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
OmahaBlueDog (8,857 posts)
9. Here's how it works: even you can win by 1 EV -- govern like you won by a landslide
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That's the lesson we should have all learned from George W. Bush.
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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #9)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:10 PM
RadiationTherapy (4,825 posts)
11. While I am not sure I agree with that actual practice, I may have some fun with the "rhetoric of
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mandate" if we manage even the slimmest of victories. hahaha
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:05 PM
RadiationTherapy (4,825 posts)
10. Sorry, didn't mean to imply it would be a "real mandate"
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only a "Bush mandate", which of course is not one.
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:16 PM
outsideworld (599 posts)
13. I need to ask
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What is a mandate and what power does it give the incumbant
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Response to outsideworld (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:58 PM
RadiationTherapy (4,825 posts)
16. A political mandate is a election victory of such a margin that the elected feels empowered
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to enact their agenda due to a perception of wide support among their constituency. It is not a formal term in regard to any particular power.
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Reply #16)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:37 PM
outsideworld (599 posts)
17. Ok
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But that doesnt really change much if we dont have the house and a fill buster proof senate right ?
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
upi402 (16,588 posts)
15. Bushco cheated the vote & stole the election.
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So... man date that Republicans!
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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:41 PM
Jack Rabbit (40,701 posts)
18. Bush did not have a madate in 2004
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The election was close by any standard and Bush's victory was, to say the very least, extremely suspect.
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