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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:50 PM

Obama's Margin of Victory: How Much Does He Need For A Mandate Like Bush Had in 2004?

It might be fun to have that ready for the day after. Obama's Mandate. hahahahahha

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Reply Obama's Margin of Victory: How Much Does He Need For A Mandate Like Bush Had in 2004? (Original post)
RadiationTherapy Oct 2012 OP
former9thward Oct 2012 #1
Coyotl Oct 2012 #8
GoCubsGo Oct 2012 #14
craigmatic Oct 2012 #2
budkin Oct 2012 #3
Renew Deal Oct 2012 #4
Scuba Oct 2012 #6
doc03 Oct 2012 #5
PoliticAverse Oct 2012 #7
RadiationTherapy Oct 2012 #12
OmahaBlueDog Oct 2012 #9
RadiationTherapy Oct 2012 #11
RadiationTherapy Oct 2012 #10
outsideworld Oct 2012 #13
RadiationTherapy Oct 2012 #16
outsideworld Oct 2012 #17
upi402 Oct 2012 #15
Jack Rabbit Oct 2012 #18

Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:52 PM

1. The margin of victory will mean little.

He needs the House and filibuster proof Senate (Do not depend on Reid changing the rule no matter what he says).

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Response to former9thward (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:12 PM

8. This will have some great coattailing

Plus, there are very good candidates this year. Look at heidi in ND, for example, kicking Berg big time in a very red state.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:20 PM

14. Yep. He had a mandate in 2008.

The republicans refused to recognize it. I don't see that changing, unless the Democrats win both houses of Congress and change the rules to prevent the kind of obstruction we saw over the past four years.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:55 PM

2. 290 something because bush had like 286. Really I'd prefer 300+ that would be a mandate.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:58 PM

3. If it's like Bush's "mandate" it will not be one

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:59 PM

4. 1 vote

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 PM

6. You beat me to it.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 PM

5. If he got 538 EV and 90% of the popular vote

the Republicans wouldn't admit it was a mandate.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:11 PM

7. 2004 Popular vote: Bush - 50.7%, Kerry - 48.3%. Bush had no mandate. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:13 PM

12. Well, I may choose to cite a "Bush mandate" to my conservative friends just out of spite.

hahahaha

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:21 PM

9. Here's how it works: even you can win by 1 EV -- govern like you won by a landslide

That's the lesson we should have all learned from George W. Bush.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:10 PM

11. While I am not sure I agree with that actual practice, I may have some fun with the "rhetoric of

mandate" if we manage even the slimmest of victories. hahaha

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:05 PM

10. Sorry, didn't mean to imply it would be a "real mandate"

only a "Bush mandate", which of course is not one.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:16 PM

13. I need to ask

What is a mandate and what power does it give the incumbant

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Response to outsideworld (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:58 PM

16. A political mandate is a election victory of such a margin that the elected feels empowered

to enact their agenda due to a perception of wide support among their constituency. It is not a formal term in regard to any particular power.

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:37 PM

17. Ok

But that doesnt really change much if we dont have the house and a fill buster proof senate right ?

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:23 PM

15. Bushco cheated the vote & stole the election.

So... man date that Republicans!

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Response to RadiationTherapy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:41 PM

18. Bush did not have a madate in 2004

The election was close by any standard and Bush's victory was, to say the very least, extremely suspect.

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