Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:20 PM
babylonsister (144,180 posts)
Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers [UPDATED]Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:21 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Greg Abbott, Texas Attorney General, Threatens To Arrest U.N. Elections Observers
The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing Posted: 10/24/2012 2:06 pm Updated: 10/24/2012 4:16 pm Greg Abbott, the Republican Attorney General of Texas, issued a stern warning this week to members of a United Nations-affiliated delegation expected to be on hand to monitor voting at polling places around the country on Election Day. In a letter to the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, a body created by U.N. charter and responsible for helping to ensure the integrity of elections, among other tasks, Abbott warned the diplomatic poll-watchers that their involvement in U.S. elections could have strong legal repercussions. "It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance," he writes. "Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law." Such a restriction makes election monitoring highly difficult. The OSCE announced earlier this month that it would send 44 observers to polling places around the country on Election Day in order to monitor possible disputes that could arise in the voting process. The move came in response to a petition from liberal-leaning voting rights groups, including the NAACP and ACLU, that suggested the OSCE's presence could help combat what they fear will be a concerted effort to suppress votes from supporters of President Barack Obama. Concerns among Democrats have mounted in the wake of reports that right-leaning groups, such as the Tea Party-aligned True The Vote, had plans to dispatch armies of poll-watchers seeking to root out invalid votes. Opponents warn that the volunteer "poll challengers" will engage in intimidation of legitimate minority voters who tend to vote Democratic. more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/greg-abbott-texas-un-elections_n_2010081.html UPDATE: 3:10 p.m. EST -- Ambassador Janez Lenarčič, director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), responded in a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, saying that Abbott's threat put the state of Texas at odds with an agreement between the body and state authorities. “The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable,” Lenarčič said. “The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections.” more @ link~
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| babylonsister | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| byeya | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| mike_c | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| theKed | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| silverweb | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| RomneyLies | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| silverweb | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| sheshe2 | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| CaliforniaPeggy | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Gothmog | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| blogslut | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| RomneyLies | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| Zen Democrat | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| Democratopia | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| TriplD | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| HooptieWagon | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| Jamastiene | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| Gregorian | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| gadgets505 | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| CrazyOrangeCat | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| Gothmog | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| ananda | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| sendero | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| surrealAmerican | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| HDCowboy | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| Gothmog | Oct 2012 | #25 |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:23 PM
byeya (1,999 posts)
1. Since this is, I understand, a treaty and therefore a law, send deputy US Marshalls
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to protect the UN Observers who find themselves in hostile areas like Texas.
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Response to byeya (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:24 PM
mike_c (31,511 posts)
3. +1
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:25 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) eom
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Response to byeya (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:38 PM
theKed (1,220 posts)
9. I think
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that they would like that. Big Ol' Gummint stickin its nose in TEXAS bidness. It probably wouldn't take much for that to turn ugly. Which might be bad...and possibly good. Throw a great big floodlight on corruption in rural, Republican areas for the whole world to sea...because, make no mistake, a UN inspector getting attacked and arrested on US soil would be news from Aberdeen to Zaire.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:23 PM
silverweb (12,980 posts)
2. Can he legally do that?
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He's using weasel words -- "may" and "could." Does he have a legal leg to stand on?
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Response to silverweb (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:31 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
7. Under Article VI, he does not
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He could be subject to federal prosecution if he violates the diplomatic immunity afforded via treaty.
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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:54 PM
silverweb (12,980 posts)
14. Thank you!
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To whomever is in charge of enforcing Article VI:
Please, please, please have the appropriate authorities on hand at every site to arrest Abbott and his agents when he tries to get away with this stunt!!
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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:03 PM
sheshe2 (4,876 posts)
16. What are they so afraid of????
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"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark" me thinks...
Hamlet: Marellus to Horatio |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:25 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (103,999 posts)
4. So this is the lay of the land?
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The Tea party group True The Vote has free access inside the polling area, but the folks from the UN do not?
Reprehensible. Illegal. Horrifying. Just the things we have come to expect from today's Republican Party. |
Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Gothmog (4,437 posts)
18. True the Vote poll watchers are being appointed by the GOP
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I am in charge of the voter protection operations in my county and have trained 60 or so poll watchers for early voting in my county.
To be a poll watcher in Texas you have to be a registered voter in that county and be appointed by a candidate or a party. The True the Vote people are residents of the county they are watching polls in and have been appointed by the GOP or a GOP candidate. |
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:27 PM
blogslut (27,294 posts)
5. Well, he would
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:27 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Greg Abbott is one true-believing wingnut.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:30 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
6. Treaties are the highest law of the land, certainly higher than Texas law
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Article VI of the United States Constitution:
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:34 PM
Zen Democrat (4,606 posts)
8. Arrest Greg Abbott. He wants to be Governor so bad he can't stand it!
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:41 PM
Democratopia (552 posts)
10. Looks fishy. Maybe they have something to hide.
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:42 PM
TriplD (78 posts)
11. Usually when a banana republic kicks out election observers it's an indication
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that they rig their elections. Why should anyone view Texas differently now?
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:42 PM
HooptieWagon (6,342 posts)
12. Fine. Escort the UN observers with US Marshalls.
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And arrest Abbott if he interferes.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:52 PM
Jamastiene (32,063 posts)
13. That would be illegal, would it not?
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Doesn't the UN have a right to be there? I would think they do have the right to be there.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:01 PM
Gregorian (19,613 posts)
15. Ignorance knows no bounds.
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Don't try to understand. There is nothing to understand.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:07 PM
gadgets505 (15 posts)
17. Blazing Saddles
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I just emailed Abbott and quoted Blazing Saddles by telling him he's "the LEADING A$$HOLE IN THE STATE!"
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Response to gadgets505 (Reply #17)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:10 PM
CrazyOrangeCat (6,073 posts)
24. Hahaha!!
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Gothmog (4,437 posts)
19. Greg is an idiot
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:13 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I was at the same downtown law firm as Greg in the 1980s but I was in a different section. Greg is not that bright.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:14 PM
ananda (12,543 posts)
20. Abbott is a total asshole.
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Period
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
sendero (25,000 posts)
21. Greg Maggot..
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.. strikes again. What a idiotic shit-stain this buffoon is.
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:21 PM
surrealAmerican (7,486 posts)
22. Is there really a state law that this would violate?
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Would those "true the vote" people also be in violation of this law if it does exist?
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:23 PM
HDCowboy (7 posts)
23. Pappy Bush made it legal when he signed on the 1990 Copenhagen Document
Response to babylonsister (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:13 PM
Gothmog (4,437 posts)
25. Maybe Greg should try arresting the Federal election monitors
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The DOJ has election monitors in both Dallas and Harris county for early voting http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2012/October/12-crt-1263.html Maybe Greg should consider arresting these federal poll watchres or monitors. That would be fun to watch
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