Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:30 PM
cali (80,165 posts)
Bernie Sanders: Barack Obama Better Not Cut Social Security
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) called out President Barack Obama for softening the commitment he made during the 2008 campaign to protect Social Security from cuts, and for aligning himself with Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on the entitlement issue during the first presidential debate.
"Four years ago when Obama ran against John McCain, he was very clear," Sanders told The Huffington Post on Tuesday. "And what he said in so many words is, 'John McCain will cut your Social Security, I will not.'" Sanders noted that President Obama's tenor has changed, and that he has been increasingly vague about whether or not he would accept cuts to Social Security as part of a larger agreement with congressional Republicans to avoid the looming "fiscal cliff" of the sequestration measures that will take effect at the beginning of next year. "To the best of my knowledge, the president has not told us that he will not cut Social Security," Sanders said. It has been reported that during the summer of 2011, President Obama was in fact willing to accept cuts to Social Security (also Medicare and Medicaid) in exchange for tax increases on the wealthy, as part of a proposed "grand bargain" with Republicans to raise the debt ceiling. <snip> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/24/bernie-sanders-barack-obama-social-security_n_2007568.html
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12 replies, 752 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| cali | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| Life Long Dem | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| Vincardog | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| graham4anything | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| MannyGoldstein | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| truedelphi | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| avaistheone1 | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| MannyGoldstein | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| graham4anything | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| MannyGoldstein | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| avaistheone1 | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| kentuck | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| truedelphi | Oct 2012 | #12 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:38 PM
Life Long Dem (8,006 posts)
1. November 17, 2011
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Response to cali (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:50 PM
Vincardog (17,412 posts)
2. It could be that President O is not the one we want negotiating for us on this. Why don't we call
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on a Liberal Democratic representative to lead the negotiations for us?
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Response to cali (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:11 PM
graham4anything (9,164 posts)
3. pretty stupid timing...maybe Bernie wants to negotiate with Mitt???
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this is something to gab about in 3 weeks, not now.
this is on the level of stupid things lieberman used to do |
Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:30 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,423 posts)
5. How about if Democrats don't do things we need to hide?
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Just a thought.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #5)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:52 PM
truedelphi (25,936 posts)
11. You are SO
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NAILING IT! |
Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:22 PM
avaistheone1 (11,763 posts)
8. The last thing that Bernie would be is a stupid man.
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Take note in the first presidential debate in October 4, 2012 President Barack Obama stated:
LEHRER: All right? All right. This is segment three, the economy. Entitlements. First -- first answer goes to you, two minutes, Mr. President. Do you see a major difference between the two of you on Social Security?
OBAMA: You know, I suspect that, on Social Security, we've got a somewhat similar position. Social Security is structurally sound. It's going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Speaker -- Democratic Speaker Tip O'Neill. But it is -- the basic structure is sound. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/presidential-debate-transcript-denver-colo-oct/story?id=17390260&page=7 So essentially President Obama has the same position on Social Security that seriously worries me. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:16 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,423 posts)
4. Birds better not fly; fish better not swim
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For some reason, cutting SS is a bizarre fetish for Obama.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #4)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:08 PM
graham4anything (9,164 posts)
6. the lock box helped Al Gore get seated didn't it?
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you ain't gonna get what you want from Mitt/Glove
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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:22 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,423 posts)
7. And your point is....
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that calling for SS cuts is a good thing?
or that it's cool because Romney's worse (although Obama said that he and Romney had the same positions on SS)? |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:46 PM
avaistheone1 (11,763 posts)
9. You are correct.
Response to cali (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:02 PM
kentuck (66,172 posts)
10. I do believe if Obama had come out stronger for SS....
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He might be a little farther ahead in the polls right now? Just a hunch.
My guess is that he did not want to take anything off the table when negotiating with the Republicans for what needed to be cut? |
Response to kentuck (Reply #10)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:55 PM
truedelphi (25,936 posts)
12. And if he would come out stronger for SS,
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Last edited Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:56 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) maybe the Democratic Party would not be viewed as being the "Sanity" side of the Republican Party. Over fifty percent of all American voters want to have choice beyond the current "D" or "R" choices. (August 2012 poll Taken by USA Today, which wasn't too happy about the poll's findings.)
I mean, Obama even told Mittens during the first debate that he was for Simpson Bowles. |

