Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:39 PM
MelissaB (10,045 posts)
Obama's college records
Can someone explain to me why the republicans want to see them? (No, really I don't know!) Does every nominee release college records? Why is this important?
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33 replies, 1823 views
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| MelissaB | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| Jacoby365 | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| gordianot | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| sdfernando | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| fleur-de-lisa | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| valerief | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| fleur-de-lisa | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| BlueCaliDem | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| fleur-de-lisa | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| LisaL | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Zambero | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| GumboYaYa | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| valerief | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| former-republican | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| chelsea0011 | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| hollysmom | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| treestar | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
| SoCalDem | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| The Magistrate | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| ann--- | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| The Velveteen Ocelot | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| MelissaB | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| CreekDog | Oct 2012 | #29 | |
| MelissaB | Oct 2012 | #33 | |
| Grammy23 | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| Kindly Refrain | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| Zambero | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| Mariana | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| Blue_In_AK | Oct 2012 | #32 | |
| bongbong | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
| FrenchieCat | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
| librechik | Oct 2012 | #30 | |
| nolabels | Oct 2012 | #31 |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jacoby365 (21 posts)
1. Trump is suggesting he got into an Ivy Leaque school
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because of affirmative action, and not brains. He has said it before.
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Response to Jacoby365 (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 PM
gordianot (6,487 posts)
9. So did Bush but it is called money in that case it was not brains, Trump was born on third base.
Response to Jacoby365 (Reply #1)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:58 PM
sdfernando (613 posts)
22. That has been out there a lot on the repuke side but...
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so what? I would ask anyone spouting this why it makes any difference at all? Obama's performance as President clearly shows that he is/was ready to take on the job....and if he wasn't completely ready to get into law school, his post education performance clearly indicates he caught up and excelled by any measure. To me that is an even bigger accomplishment that NOT getting in because of affirmative action.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:42 PM
fleur-de-lisa (1,598 posts)
2. I seem to recall that some of the repukes were saying . . .
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that the President wasn't a good student. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can get on law review if you're not a stellar student (sarcasm)!
They've got nothing else! |
Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #2)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:44 PM
valerief (35,681 posts)
7. Too bad Obama doesn't have the brainpower of Dubya or Mittfalca.
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Response to valerief (Reply #7)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:47 PM
fleur-de-lisa (1,598 posts)
13. I think it's spelled 'Dumbya' . . . n/t
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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #13)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:50 PM
BlueCaliDem (5,296 posts)
16. Or as I fondly name him, "DUHbya".
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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #16)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:54 PM
fleur-de-lisa (1,598 posts)
18. HA HA - n/t
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:43 PM
LisaL (22,856 posts)
3. Pehraps Obama wasn't a straight A student...
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Which never seemed to bother republicans about Bush.
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Response to LisaL (Reply #3)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:12 PM
Zambero (2,409 posts)
24. And McCain?
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Until now I never realized that having a 4.0 GPA was specified in the U.S. Constitution as being requisite for a POTUS. If that is the case, how did "dead last at West Point" John McCain manage to sneak in under the radar enroute to the 2008 nomination?
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:43 PM
GumboYaYa (5,433 posts)
4. Short answer, they are nuts....
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Long answer, they think they may find a few things:
(i) Obama applied as foreign student or received financial aid as a foreign student (which feeds the birther loonies); or (ii) Obama benefited from affirmative action or some other mysterious dark power who got him into Harvard. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:43 PM
valerief (35,681 posts)
5. It's nonsense. He may as well asked for grammar school report cards.
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I think the Trump "reveal" gives Fox something to talk about while everyone else can talk about how Rmoney lied at the Staples owner's divorce.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:44 PM
former-republican (2,163 posts)
6. I'd like to know also
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The only one I can remember doing it was Bush .
I can't recall any other President being asked to release them. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:45 PM
chelsea0011 (8,220 posts)
8. They are hoping he took an Econ course and got a C-
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Seriously though, I think they believe he is a Manchurian Candidate.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 PM
hollysmom (1,290 posts)
10. they want to see them because they claim that Obama is not smart
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and that he was placed purely because he was black. They think he has bad grades because being on the law review always demands people with bad grades. right? They think he was elected because he was black, like he was given bonus points instead of votes.
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Response to hollysmom (Reply #10)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:18 PM
treestar (40,525 posts)
27. Yeah I've heard that "affirmative action president" crap
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As if that's even possible. There's no way to be President except by the vote, and there is no way to tell the motivations of voters.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 PM
SoCalDem (99,752 posts)
11. Just more fodder for the racists to chew on
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The are just sure that he got "preferential" treatment when he entered college, and SO WHAT IF HE DID??? That's what Affirmative Action was SUPPOSED TO DO..
But, I am pretty sure he did not need it.. Of course he did "check a box" that indicated that he was not "white"...so if the colleges accepted him, he was a "two-fer" for them, and should not reflect anything of a nefarious nature to him.. I knew a girl in college whose mother was Mexican and whose father was black.. She was also a National Merit scholar.. Colleges really wanted her.. Hispanic/Black/female AND smart |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:47 PM
The Magistrate (80,593 posts)
12. Honestly, Ma'am: Do You Think a Negro Really Got Good Grades In College?
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Surely you know all Negros are borderline imbeciles, children in men's bodies, incapable of intellectual pursuits, only in colleges because commies in the Federal government, intent on race-mixing, which will destroy this country, force colleges to admit them, in place of deserving White people who could actually benefit from the education, and can do the work easily?
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:48 PM
ann--- (564 posts)
14. The allegation is
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that he applied as a "foreign" student to get financial aid because he had lived in Indonesia.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:48 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (34,739 posts)
15. Because they are assuming his grades weren't very good.
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Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) He can't have gotten good grades; after all, he's black. (
But, even with his crappy black-kid grades he got into Harvard Law School and used affirmative action to take a place away from a deserving white kid whose dad went there. That's what they want them for. I don't remember that any other candidate has ever been asked for their college transcripts. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:50 PM
MelissaB (10,045 posts)
17. Thanks everybody!
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Response to MelissaB (Reply #17)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:30 PM
CreekDog (37,145 posts)
29. One question for you: do you really think *they* think something's in there?
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your OP accepted that they were asking for sound reasons.
what says that they have a sound basis for wanting the records? do we just assume that they do? |
Response to CreekDog (Reply #29)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:02 PM
MelissaB (10,045 posts)
33. No, I don't think anything is in there.
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I've seen a couple of posts on facebook about the issue and just didn't get it. It's like they had to come up with something that he was hiding. I never cease to be surprised by dumbasses and the hard right, even the "educated" ones.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:54 PM
Grammy23 (616 posts)
19. They keep stirring this pot to keep their base churned up....
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and they are hoping to strike gold in some document that may be released. Any nugget will do but they are hoping for the Mother lode that will suddenly and surely make Obama an unmasked fake. As if Karl Rove and any number of others have not searched and looked high and low for information of this kind. Is anyone out there still so hungry to get rid of this guy (Obama) that they think there is not a rock that has not been overturned looking for this kind of evidence that he is a fraud? I guess the fact is that there really are people willing to fall for this crap. And even if they don't FIND ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE, they can plant the seed in the minds of gullible, racist people. They are playing to a base that truly believes that the evidence IS OUT THERE and is just waiting to be found. Good luck with THAT, you idiots. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:55 PM
Kindly Refrain (423 posts)
20. They probably think Obama drew little hammers and sickles in the margins.
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:57 PM
malaise (106,118 posts)
21. Because no black man is qualifed for anything
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Obama has really destroyed their caricature of the black male.
Never in history has a President been asked to show his college records. Maybe that ugly Mofo with the ridiculous rug should ask his candidate to submit his fucking tax returns. I'm so tired of this shit - this overt racism - who the fuck is this asshole Trump anyway - why does the media continue to give this attention seeking asshole airplay? |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:05 PM
Zambero (2,409 posts)
23. Yes, as a President of the Harvard Law Review
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I'm sure Barrack Obama's acadeic peers deemed him worthy of that honor solely based on his proven record of medicrity and scholastic underachievement.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:14 PM
Mariana (2,373 posts)
25. They believe he attended as a foreign student.
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It's a variation of the Birther Bullshit.
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Response to Mariana (Reply #25)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:57 PM
Blue_In_AK (37,742 posts)
32. Ding,ding,ding
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I'm sure that's it.
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:16 PM
bongbong (5,436 posts)
26. Reason
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Among other scurrilous reasons, some reich-wing welfare recipient (like Pantload Goldberg) will pay somebody to ghostwrite a book on the subject, and then sell copies to the marks (AKA repig voters).
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Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:26 PM
FrenchieCat (67,336 posts)
28. They better come up with Romney's Tax returns first! Those are more relevant to this election!
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There is no "Affirmative Action" box that would show up on Obama's college record. Although race is taken into consideration,
along with other qualities when being considered for admission at Harvard, there is no box that's checked, as the application process is much more qualitative and the final reason any student gets in is not based on a "check off list" that would indicated that race was the reason he got in. This request is just another dog whistle for the racists. Period. |
Response to MelissaB (Original post)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:31 PM
librechik (25,032 posts)
30. no, they just want to make it look like he's illegitimately keeping a secret (like Mitt is w taxes)
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It's on record that he graduated Magna Cum Laudi. You don't get that without straight As or very close to that, it's done numerically by GPA.
It's not the answer they want, like the birth certificate, so off they go into fantasy land. |
Response to librechik (Reply #30)
Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:56 PM
nolabels (11,118 posts)
31. I and some others don't really think it's all that important he graduated Magna Cum Laudi
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The most important thing i see is that he has kept the billionaires and their right wing movement tied up for years and the billionaires are now getting frantic for movement their way. Does anybody think these rich fellows just want to give their money away in great gobs just to be part of some kind of movement? The billionaires got movement with * and went halfhearted in with Obama but have now since soured.
They can't seem to spend enough to buy it and it is starting to frustrate them |

