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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:36 AM

Mitt Romney Allegedly LIED in Court To Screw Over Friend's Wife

http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/24/mitt-romney-tom-stemberg-staples-lied-perjury-divorce-case-maureen/


Mitt Romney LIED under oath when he testified in the divorce of his good friend and screwed the friend's wife out of a lot of money in the process ... so claims the ex-wife of Staples' founder Tom Stemberg.

Multiple sources connected with the divorce tell TMZ ... during Tom's uber nasty divorce case with ex-wife Maureen, Mitt Romney gave a deposition and testified during the trial that Staples was worth virtually nothing. Romney testified that the company was worth very little and Tom was a dreamer and "the dream continues."

Romney characterized the Staples stock as "overvalued," adding, "I didn't place a great deal of credibility in the forecast of the company's future."

Partly as a result of Romney's testimony, Maureen got relatively little in the divorce, but we're told just weeks after the divorce ended, Romney and Tom went to Goldman Sachs and cashed in THEIR stock for a fortune. Short story -- Romney allegedly lied to help his friend and screw the friend's wife over.

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Reply Mitt Romney Allegedly LIED in Court To Screw Over Friend's Wife (Original post)
warrior1 Oct 2012 OP
EC Oct 2012 #1
RichGirl Oct 2012 #17
1monster Oct 2012 #81
DollarBillHines Oct 2012 #40
graham4anything Oct 2012 #2
RoccoR5955 Oct 2012 #45
Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #65
randome Oct 2012 #3
DHelix Oct 2012 #4
randome Oct 2012 #5
Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #69
KansDem Oct 2012 #6
Sheepshank Oct 2012 #10
bongbong Oct 2012 #27
IllinoisBirdWatcher Oct 2012 #7
Hog lover Oct 2012 #11
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Kber Oct 2012 #12
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Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #70
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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:39 AM

1. Well, it does seem to be part of his make-up

he lies so easily, I'm guessing it's a lifetime thing.

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Response to EC (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:06 AM

17. That's the beauty of this.

If he had been honest...or as honest as any politician, then these allegations wouldn't amount to anything. But in light of his history of lying....who is going to defend him?

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Response to RichGirl (Reply #17)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:35 PM

81. Look at the comments on this article. Plenty of people out there don't care about integrity

any more. And that is the real problem in this country.

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Response to EC (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:53 AM

40. It's a Mormon thing

Just Google "Lying for the Lord" and you'll see.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:41 AM

2. screw Mitt Romney

 

he screwed his best friends wife in court
he screwed the people of Boston
he screwed the 47% of the nation
MittMan and BoyGlove will screw everyone

reason enough not to vote for them

hey republicantealibertarians-vote for Gary Johnson he won't screw you and you can feel good while losing

and let's screw Mitt but good.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:01 PM

45. Let's not get violent here

You know that screws can hurt someone.
I'm just saying this, because a post of mine got banned for something similar.
I will not ban you, or anyone within reason, but I will warn you that there are people who will consider this violence.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:49 PM

65. even if I were an Obama hating Libertarian I would vote against Mitt based on

foreign policy inclinations & advisers.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:42 AM

3. That would be classified as an 'October Surprise'.

Romney was already going to lose but this makes the GOP look bad, as well.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:43 AM

4. I can already imagine the Priorities USA ad...

Maureen: Romney only cares about his closest, richest friends.

Narrator: In sworn testimony, Mitt Romney said that Staples was worth virtually nothing so that his friend would pay less in divorce.

Maureen: I ended up getting sick and lost my house. I lost everything because of Mitt Romney.

Narrator: If Mitt Romney Wins the Middle Class Loses.

Priorities USA is responsible for this content.

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Response to DHelix (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:44 AM

5. With a few references to 'truth' and 'honor' thrown in.

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Response to DHelix (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:52 PM

69. that's very good though I wonder if Maureen is in the middle class?

is she a sympathetic character? I know nothing about her.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:44 AM

6. But isn't it okay for Mormons to lie to non-Mormons?



I do have a question. If I'm a Mormon and sitting in court and hear another Mormon lie, then is it okay because I know he's lying and he knows I know he's lying, so that makes it all right?

To tell the truth, this campaign has been quite confusing with Mormonism in general and "Lying for the Lord," and "Legitimate Rape," and "Cutting taxes creates jobs and reduces the deficit," and "Social Security is an entitlement," and "As a Corporatist, I shipped American jobs overseas but as President I'll bring them back," and so on...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:50 AM

10. Considering Provo, Utah (home of BYU) is the nations #1 Pyramid/ponzi scheme capital,

I'd say it's closer to the truth that Mormons don't care who they screw over. They will lie to anyone at anytime to make a buck.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #10)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:23 AM

27. The key point

 

> They will lie to anyone at anytime to make a buck.

A cult started as a money-making/law-breaking operation doesn't change its stripes.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:47 AM

7. Staples??? The outfit Rmoney boasts about as his dramatic job creating turn-around?

This cannot be the same Staples!

"I didn't place a great deal of credibility in the forecast of the company's future."


That would mean Rmoney wasn't telling the truth.

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Response to IllinoisBirdWatcher (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:52 AM

11. Romney lie? Noooo!

Never!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:48 AM

8. What's sad is that this kind of "bros before hoes" loyalty will probably help him with certain types

Let's face it. Romney's only in this because he's convinced older white males he's their guy. That's his only large demo advantage over Obama. Since 50% of those types probably lost money to women in divorces (50% divorce rate) at some point in time this story seems more likely to showcase his loyalty to his friend than anything else. Single women aren't voting for Romney anyway so I'm not sure who this news really helps Obama much unfortunately.

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Response to DHelix (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:53 AM

12. He's already got that demographic locked up.

He's going after the women vote and this will not help him (if true, of course).

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Response to DHelix (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:58 AM

13. A comment on your post about divorce

Yes, men who always think the wives get some of "their" stuff and money in a divorce could think it's great that Romney helped a friend screw over the wife in a divorce. However, women do usually end up worse off financially after a divorce (especially in "traditional" marriages where the wife either stays home or makes much less money than the husband), and I think every woman knows a friend who has suffered financially as a result of a divorce. Therefore, any attaboy votes by jerk men will be offset by women's votes lost by Romney.

On edit: I think in most states, the property acquired during a marriage is considered to be joint marital property that is owned equally by both parties, no matter who was the main breadwinner.

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Response to Hog lover (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:36 PM

57. As an aside: Young women, pleast take heed.

women do usually end up worse off financially after a divorce (especially in "traditional" marriages where the wife either stays home or makes much less money than the husband), and I think every woman knows a friend who has suffered financially as a result of a divorce.

That is very, very, very true.

A woman who stays at home and does not work is taking a big risk because once you are over 40 or 50, it is very hard to re-enter the workforce.

That differential between the pay of men and the pay of women is due to a great extent to the low wages of women who stayed at home with their children and then tried to re-enter the workforce.

Get a part-time job at the very least. Every woman needs to think about building her work history. That is your insurance policy for the future.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #57)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:51 PM

67. Amen.

I belong to a divorce support group for women in their 50s. It's very hard to re-enter the workforce and make a decent living after being a homemaker for 20 years. It took one of my friends three years to find a job that paid the bills. Her ex-husband has been a real dick and not complied with several court orders to make payments so she's had to rely on friends and family for necessities. It's a very sad state of affairs but not an uncommon one.

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Response to DHelix (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:55 AM

43. And then there are the older white guys who are for Obama

He doesn't have all of them so it's a good thing to remember if 49% of voters are male, not all of the white ones are voting for Romney.

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Response to DHelix (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:00 PM

44. Independent

 

women who haven't made up their mind yet.

Independents who hate Liars.

Married women may just cancel the husband's vote after this!!! Husband says to vote for Mi$$; wife enters voting booth....he'll never know who I voted for. Fook that asshat, RobMe.

Believe it or not, there are men out in the Heartland who would be disgusted by this.

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Response to femrap (Reply #44)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:56 PM

70. It's hard to imagine there would be women who hate liars who also haven't

made up their minds yet.

But this being a screw-the-wife-of-the-rich-guy story, it might
turn some heads. Lots of wives of rich guys have gotten
majorly screwed... there's probably a ton of them.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #70)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:50 PM

82. Lots of women

 

don't follow politics like us junkies on DU....but lying about such a personal matter that would inflict pain on a woman and child is an entirely different matter.

I've read that many people don't make up their minds as to who they will vote for until the day of the election. That's so hard for me to understand, but again, not everyone is a political junkie and cares about Democracy to the extent we do.

Did you see the post about Mi$$ has served, not in the military but....in the War Against Women!

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Response to femrap (Reply #82)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:03 PM

83. yes, I saw that.. Mitt's war record, LOL

Prior to the election of 2000 I wasn't paying much
attention to politics. I was living out of the country
for many years and engrossed in other pursuits,
so I wasn't even voting.

It is hard to imagine but some people don't decide
until they are in the booth and Jesus tells them what
to do.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #83)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:20 PM

88. I've always been fascinated

 

with politics. I remember in 2nd grade, Judy (my best friend) and I would have fights over who was going to be Prez. Her family was repugnant.

I probably just liked the way JFK carried himself and I liked Jackie and the 2 kids. Nixon looked like the devil....and so did his wife. I wanted to stay up and wait until they declared a 'winner' on Election Eve, but it got so late I fell asleep. I remember running down the hall the next morning yelling, 'Did he win? Did he win?' That was probably the only time in my life that I was so very excited over a presidential win. I had always wanted my own 'FDR.' But that's just not going to happen.

I even got a degree in politics as a 2nd major. Watergate was so much fun to me...I was in college at the time. Bringing Nixon down was a huge triumph at the time. I thought we had conquered the enemy and everyone had learned their lessons. Now he appears to be a Teddy Bear compared to some of the vile slime we have encountered.

1980 started the decline. Raygun and Papa Bush (Thankfully I was living in San Fran which kept me safe in that little Progressive Bubble out there). Then Clinton, who I call the best Republican President EVER....well, no maybe Teddy Roosevelt. Hell, bring back Ike's tax rates of 90% on the Rich.

W nearly killed me. The 2nd term, I gained 30 lbs....that's my addiction...Food. Good thing I don't like heroin. LOL. I had worked so hard on the Kerry campaign. I was crushed. I just couldn't believe it. And it was my home state of OH that was stolen. I even drove to DC to stop the Electoral Votes of OH from being accepted. Then in '06, I worked to get the House and Senate so we could IMPEACH this war monger...but Pelosi and her damn table betrayed me. So I wasn't much in the mood for Obama. I really liked HRC. I don't get my FDR nor my first woman Prez....Who knew that my life peaked at such a young age...after I saw The Beatles for the 2nd time.

Obama didn't excite me at all...he just seemed naive. And I didn't buy into that 'Yes, We Can.' I'm too old for that. But it was a great marketing effort. And there were many times in the past 4 years that I wanted to slap him.

I still don't like him that much. It's a Campaign of Hate, imho. My dislike of RobMe is much stronger than my respect for Obama. And it's the same on the other side. Those RWers don't want a Mormon in the WH, but they hate Obama...lots of racists out there.

To be honest, I've come to the conclusion that there isn't much difference between the parties. And this campaigning is BIG CIRCUS TIME when people get all aroused w/ 'the race.' These presidents do as they are told, IMHO. TPTB call the shots on the banks, the MSM, industrial migration, everything.

I'm such a cynic...the only way out I see is for Mother Nature to hit The Reset Button....and wipe out a big chunk of the world. She's done it before and she'll do it again. Every 26,000 years, she turns on her axis. Maybe she'll shrug her shoulders and all the greedy sons of shorts dicks will go flying into thin air or drown under a massive tsunami.

Now, you must think I'm crazy. What's that song? "I'm not crazy. I just know too much." Great tune.

Where did you live overseas? I traveled to Europe twice in my college years.

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Response to femrap (Reply #88)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:57 PM

92. In all fairness

For all of her fighting, Hillary would have had the same congress, backed by several billion dollars of slush..she might have even oput sotomayor and kagan in, or others, but the real tenor willnot change until Scalaia's cabal dies.

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Response to femrap (Reply #88)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:41 PM

93. wasn't overseas - went to Canada during the Vietnam War and stayed for about 10 years

I do like Obama, seriously.

I never really expected much from him, but generally
don't expect much from politicians and often wonder
why they get paid.

But I'm rather mythically inclined, and see grand things
playing out in these times. For me it is about the wind and
the sun versus the oil gas and coal. The dark powers versus
the light and life-giving powers.

Many liars and hypocrites who deal in cheat and deceit
become extremely religious. This is because they've
sold their souls to the great god Fear. Greed, Deceit,
these are minions of Fear. Extreme religion is a means
of coping with the dark terrors which inevitably come to
such people.

But on the other hand there is something in the heart
of humanity pushing to be born. It is an urge for life,
for beauty, goodness. It is hope itself, and it's powerful.

The dark things have had their time, and wreaked havoc.
They are going down. I am up with hope and change.
Hope is what keeps me going in life. It is innate in my
heart. Change will happen no matter what.

I do not want people in power who will continue to poison
the planet, or start more wars.

I see integrity and honesty in Obama, I see a man who
strives to walk his talk, who does not trade in cheat and
deceit.

I believe he is a man who lives a self-examined life, as
Socrates urged. I see him focused on doing the
best he possibly can for the country and for all of us.
This is my point of view, how I see him. To me
Obama is a good sign of evolution & shifting times.

I agree with most everything else you said, don't think you
sound crazy at all.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #93)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:02 PM

98. Sometimes I'm

 

afraid to hope. But I do hope there is something to this Mayan Calendar and the paradigm shifts from competition to cooperation.

My life is grounded by Mother Nature. Just to walk outside and admire the trees or see a squirrel collecting food for the winter puts a smile on my face. What the Oil and Coal boyz have done to her makes me ill. She will have the final say.

I guess I don't have much faith in most people...especially politicians. Yet, I'm a political junkie. I have to know what they're doing so I can be prepared...for what, I'm not really sure. I just have this need to know and then analyze.

Your words have given me some hope. I hope you're right about those who've created havoc...they're going down!!!

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Response to femrap (Reply #98)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:41 PM

99. Politics is kind of fascinating, no doubt about it, but when it starts making me cranky or anxious

I drop it and do something else. Like visit the chickens out back.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #99)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:28 PM

101. That's what I need....

 

a chicken and a goat in the back yard as opposed to my apartment neighbor who is a recovering alcoholic and ex-con, Ed. He's not so bad, but he never asks me a question. I'm just a pair of ears who is to nod and smile when all I want to do is scream.

I'm in redneck Ohio for only one reason...to take care of my 85 year-old mother.

It's a long, boring story that probably many boomer adults endure. Tortuous nursing homes, uncaring nurses, idiot doctors, and to top it off Fundamental Christian Republican relatives who have not once brought my mother a meal. And her precious church that she donates to...not even a store-bought pumpkin pie. If I'm not dealing with a hypocrite, it's an idiot.

At least the Police Captain seems to be a decent guy....he listens to how my next-door neighbor threatens to beat the living hell out of me. He wants to rid the world of me, so he says. Go ahead and try.

I never imagined that it would be like this...and no mary jane to take the edge off.






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Response to femrap (Reply #101)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:11 PM

104. you need to pack up your mom and move her to a medical marijuana state

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #104)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:03 AM

105. She's lived in her

 

little house surrounded by her siblings since 1962. She'll NEVER leave. She won't smoke pot. I tried years ago. She's a Fundy Christian...but not that bad, only because she has me as her daughter who keeps her informed of THE TRUTH. She votes Dem.

Her memory is going. She probably has some form of dementia. She is recovering from a fractured pelvis (nothing can be done about that), stenosis (degenerative....no cure), and a fractured tail bone. She isn't very mobile but has improved from walker to cane. One more fall and she'll be done.

Otherwise, she is healthy. (I think). This is the first time she has ever been sick. I'm the one with the silly health problems and operations....typical ones...appendix, tonsils (but as an adult...OMG what pain), knee surgery (arthritis since a teen, but I take Glucosamine & I am fine), oh, and gallbladder removed. Oh...I was at the end of the line when Patience was handed out.

I'm filled w/ guilt about being so unhappy, but I'm not the 'homemaker/mother' type and my mom knows that and cuts me a lot of slack. I'm her only child out of 3 marriages and 3 divorces...I went through all of them. If she just weren't so damn Bible-bound. Those church people drive me insane and I tell her that....but again, her mind is like Swiss cheese....which we talk about as well.

It has always been her and me against the world...and I f*cking hate the rest of her family. My father is dead and he was an only child as well....so few relatives on that side left. And I'm just like my father...as far as attitude, humor, opinions...and I'm sure that bugs everyone on my mom's side of the family.

Too bad abortion wasn't safe and legal back in the '50's...honestly. Another boring, long story.

I should just make a run to Michigan...or ask the Police Captain where I could get some. I really think he'd understand...he told me to drink wine to get to sleep.

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Response to femrap (Reply #105)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:29 AM

106. wish I could help but I don't want to go to jail.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #106)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:10 PM

107. Me neither....

 

Maybe someday I'll move to Denver. I have arthritis in my knees so I'm all set.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:50 AM

9. At this point

I would be breaking news if Romney got caught telling the truth. He's a slimeball.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:30 AM

33. That's a great story idea for the Onion!!

The crowd at the rally was stunned to hear Romney utter something that was true. "I thought I knew him" said one supporter. ...

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #33)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:01 PM

91. great idea!!!!

Love it!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:01 AM

14. Hmm....this would be consistent with EVERYTHING we know about the guy.

I'd be surprised to find out he DIDN'T lie.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:04 AM

15. This is really weird. Because there was a day last week where I was

posting to the local paper, writing pro-Obama comments, and I got mail bombed by Staples! I had about a dozen Staples emails back to back!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:05 AM

16. This isn't a new story. Which makes me wonder what the "surprise" is supposed to be.

This was all reported, with citations to Romney's testimony, four years ago. If this is all there is, its a nothingburger.

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Response to onenote (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:08 AM

18. Then why is the testimony sealed?

I don't get it.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:26 AM

30. My guess is that its sealed because of more specific financial info

The citations in the 2008 article are pretty general; my guess is that there is a redacted "public" version of the transcript and a confidential sealed one that contains more specific, proprietary business facts and figures. Since that information is now over 20 years old, there is no reason to keep it sealed, but I'm still not sure how the specific numbers are going to turn this into a big story. But we will see.

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Response to onenote (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:10 AM

20. I think the ex-wife is going to file a perjury lawsuit against Romney, which is why Allred is involv

ed.

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Response to onenote (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:11 AM

21. Not new. But not widely reported on.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:08 AM

19. One thing doesn't make sense to me

At the time Romney testified about the value of Staples stock, wouldn't that be public information? Was it low at the time of his testimony, and then just weeks after, it miraculously shot up in value and he and his buddy cashed in? That may be the real story here (other than the obvious diss to women) but what was done to jack the value of the stock within weeks of his deposition.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:17 AM

25. If he downplayed the value of the stock or said it didn't have good future earnings potential....

that could be insider trading I guess. I don't know the specifics but the stock did go up quite a bit in the 2 years after the approximate court date (2005 I think??)

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:33 AM

34. Looks like she got 500,000 shares which she sold before Staples went public. It went public

in 1989 at approx .88 cents. It eventually rose to $22 per share 10 years later but it was a pretty slow growth in stock $ terms.

Hmmmm, at the time I could realistically see Romney or any board member expressing hesitations about the future growth of the company and those worries being legitimate, so I hope there's more to it than that.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

47. Maybe the stock hadn't gone

 

public yet. Just privately held stock?

The slimeball who started Staples....he must still have shares. If so, I think I'll just drop into Staples today and break something expensive....OOPS! I'm sorry. I'm so clumsy.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:47 PM

59. Not if the stock was not yet publicly traded

Many companies issue stock as they are starting up to the people working there or people funding it - ie Bain Capital.

What does not add up is that she surely knew she was cheated as soon as the stock went public - and the article implies it was months later. Why didn't she reopen the proceedings then? The timing will not look good. Something does not add up. I hope Democrats stay far away from this. If it has life on its own - and if true, Romney is a creep, but we already know this.

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #19)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:10 PM

86. this was before the stock went public

A short while later...

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:12 AM

22. Hiding money seems o be a lifelong thing with Romney.

Interesting priorities.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:15 AM

23. My question is

why did they listen to his testimony without the her lawyers fact checking him? "Romney characterized the Staples stock as "overvalued," adding, "I didn't place a great deal of credibility in the forecast of the company's future." When did Mittens become the person who decides a company's forecast?

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Response to Drale (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:43 PM

58. Very often, in such divorces, the husband handles the money and hires a really top lawyer.

The wife has to settle for someone with a good heart. Sometimes the wife is lucky. Sometimes she has money. But if she doesn't, she can be at a big disadvantage. She rarely can afford to hire a firm with the teams of paralegals and secretaries, etc. on her side that the husband has.

In addition, a lot of women really just want to stay married and don't really want the divorce. They don't have the clarity of thought to fight for what they will need. They fall back into unrealistic ideas about being good girls. It's a very sad social reality. Women usually get the bad end of a divorce in my opinion.

That is not always true, but often enough the wife has to hire someone who is willing to risk not getting paid much. Some women just give up. It's really sad.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #58)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:00 PM

71. saw this with some friends -- wife left abusive rich husband,

he hired rich lawyer, took the kids away, she used a public defender with a good heart.

Luckily the judge liked the public defender more than the rich lawyer.
Both lawyers were women. One was just nasty.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:16 AM

24. If Romney's lips are moving, he must be lying

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #24)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:28 AM

32. You're wrong

 

> If Romney's lips are moving, he must be lying

That statement doesn't include sleep.

I'm sure Flip-Flopper's dreams are filled with lies. Change it to "if willard is breathing, he's lying".

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Response to bongbong (Reply #32)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:02 PM

72. I'm curious about the quality and content of his nightmares

when Ann has to talk him back to sleep

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:22 AM

26. Mitt Romney? Lying?

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:02 PM

46. I would be shocked if he told the truth for a change. n.t.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:24 AM

28. Perjury = Prison = EOM (End Of Mittens)

Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:01 PM - Edit history (2)

Tada!

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Response to Turborama (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:05 PM

48. I wish -- but don't forget:

IOKIYR

I swear, Repug politicians must be GM with Teflon in order to run for any office.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:26 AM

29. Staples isn't a bad store

 

I wait for their loss-leaders like the 1 cent items at back-to-school time, or the free-after-rebate items.

I turn in ink cartridges for $3 apiece.

Not a bad store if you stay away from - pretty much everything except those types of deals. (ESPECIALLY the inkjet refills which is the only profit center they have)

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Response to bongbong (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:59 PM

90. I KNOW!

The crazy thing is that I get my ink cartridges on teh ebay for about $2 a pop.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:27 AM

31. Maureen Sullivan Stemberg can easily be my Mom

Maureen Sullivan Stemberg is a strong woman, she has obviously endured so much, and to think the right wing crazies are going to go after her now, I cant help but fear for her. I hope she gets justice. I have been really shaken by this because my Mom is in a horrible marriage and I know if she tries to get out she may possibly end up like Maureen, a victim in a divorce battle. Im in tears over this.

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Response to MissNostalgia (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:12 PM

51. Does your father have

 

lots of money? Does your mother have a job? My mother went through 3 divorces and I was right there with her.

First, FIND OUT EVERYTHING ABOUT THE MONEY! AND THE BILLS. Does he have credit cards just in his name? Always get the mail before he comes home. Does he have PO box? Is the home paid for? Where are the assets?

There are so many places for help compared to when my mom got a divorce. Is father abusive? Verbally or physically? Does your mother have parents or siblings to stay with for a while?

Talk to a counselor at a Domestic Violence center....they know everything. Life is too short to stay w/ some asshole.

If he is violent or owns weapons, get a gun. I'm not kidding. One is allowed to protect oneself.

I hope your mother isn't one to 'suffer in silence.'

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Response to femrap (Reply #51)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:48 PM

62. I have tried, and havent stop

She has gone from telling me, "Im alright", to "I wish he would just disappear". I have suggested outside resources that you have mentioned but she wont commit, I wont quit though. Thanks you for your response,

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Response to MissNostalgia (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:49 PM

63. Talk to your mother about the Stemberg case.

Get her to think realistically about how much money she will need in the future.

A lot of women talk themselves into the idea that everything will be all right. They have been crushed by their bad marriage, but the dreams that have shattered. You have to get off the feeling bad, emotional edge and start thinking about inflation and growth in value and how much your mother and father earn or have saved. Get someone who can advise her on her financial future. Does she have a career? Will she be able to work -- realistically?

Don't feel bad. Think clearly. Set your feelings aside. Above all, set anger aside. A lot of women are overcome by their anger and disappointment and cannot think rationally when they feel rejected. That has to be set aside. Divorce is a money matter. Take away the hate and love as much as possible. Think clearly. Think rationally.

A lot of women harbor a secret wish that things could go back and be the way they were. They can't. Maybe if you kind of explore that with your mother -- her feelings of regret, she will be better able to think as clearly as she needs to.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:38 AM

35. I wonder how they'll spin this story.

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Response to warrior1 (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:11 PM

74. I don't think it's going to be that tough...

I'm not 100% sure on the time line here, but the testimony is from 1991 when Staples was trading at about 1$ a share. It didn't take off like a rocket immediately, either. It's not very hard to make the argument that Staples outlook AT THAT TIME was still pretty questionable.

People seem to be looking at this as Gloria Allred's "October Surprise", but there's not really much here that really bad about Romney or new. Basically, it's her way of injecting her client (or herself) into a popular news story (the election) for PR purposes. If the divorce case is done, then perhaps someone has a book or movie coming out.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:41 AM

36. "I know how to make money." "I have what it takes to get this economy back on track"...Yes

by lying & deceiving people!

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Response to Harriety (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:52 PM

68. Romney's MO was nearly always:

Borrow money and buy a company.

Once you control the company, borrow against its assets.

Then cash in by selling the assets you borrowed against and paying yourself a big bonus out of the proceeds.

If the money doesn't stretch far enough to pay your own outsized bonus and also the creditors, then declare bankruptcy and stiff the creditors.

Now. Apply that to the US.

How in the world will that MO solve the problems of the US?

It won't. But Romney has yet to demonstrate that he knows any other method of operation.

Why does anyone support Romney? I have no idea.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #68)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:06 PM

73. Romney's 'plan' managed bankruptcy of the auto industry...

(even though there was not private money to invest after the 2008 crash)

Wouldn't Romney's managed auto bankruptcy... Downsize, lose great numbers of jobs if his 'plan' was implemented?

I can't quite understand what the auto industry would look like now if Romney had applied his Bain model to the industry in 2008.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:46 AM

37. Romney lied? Gee, what a surprise

I wouldn't believe the guy if he said the sun comes up in the East. He's a natural born liar.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:50 AM

38. How so very much in character of him. nt

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:53 AM

39. Two questions

Is Stemberg a Mormon?

When will this shift from TMZ to NYT?

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Response to matt819 (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:55 AM

42. November 7? nt

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Response to matt819 (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:10 PM

49. They, like us, are probably just waiting to see what the actual story here is.

If it's just pointing out that Romney is an asshole - we already knew that.

If they're actually going to sue him and press charges for perjury......then it will start getting wheels.

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Response to cbdo2007 (Reply #49)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:16 PM

53. The story is also in the Boston Globe, which is owned by the NYTimes n/t

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:55 AM

41. Not surprising. Rmoney is a scheming liar. How can anyone vote for this charlatan?! /nt

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:11 PM

50. Yet another good reason why he should never be given the opportunity . . .

. . . to lie when he takes this oath:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:15 PM

52. As I figured...

this was more about Allred using the presidential election to generate publicity for her client than actually revealing anything important about Rmoney.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:31 PM

54. Republican family values.

What you see is what you get.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:32 PM

55. All One Has To Do

is hear Romney speak and see his mannerisms, to determine that it's obvious that he is a lying con-artist.

And now this?

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:36 PM

56. Was there children involved? I'm curious about that part...

You know, if there were kids, how did that lie affect them and support, etc.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #56)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:49 PM

64. This is from TMZ. There was a son involved.

Sources tell us ... Tom also got custody of the couple's one child, making allegations of abuse against Maureen. And get this ... in the mid-90s, after the divorce, Tom sent the boy a letter saying, although he loved him, because of issues related to the divorce "it will not be possible for you to be a part of our family for the foreseeable future."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2AEh2Ljdi

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:48 PM

60. ahh.. TMZ

little rascals getting all up in Romney's bidness..

Interesting that this is coming forth from "mainstream"
isn't it?

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:48 PM

61. K&R! We need to be kicking this story, not Helmet-Head Trump's latest birfer nonsense! n/t

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:50 PM

66. Doesn't Rmoney always push the success of Staples as an example of his being able to create jobs?

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:25 PM

75. Is Maureen in any shape to go on "The View", "Politics Nation", and other TV and cable

shows? I'm assuming Maureen does not support Romney for President.

A TV blitz by Maureen starting 10 days before the election would be great for us and her dream ultimate revenge.

When will the Boston court rule on Gloria Allred's petition? Is Maureen Allred's client?

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:26 PM

76. This sucks, but does anyone here really think it will affect Romney's campaign?

Worse things have been ignored with this electorate...

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:33 PM

77. Ho Hum!! Just another day in the lie/f of Rmoney!!!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:48 PM

78. too late to make an ad about his pattern of lying to get what he's after

besides republicans love to lie a lot!!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:09 PM

79. I don't see this having any negative impact on R(money).

He screwed over a woman. A woman.

It's obvious to me that the "right" wing doesn't care one bit about women. They'll love him even more for it, I suspect.

Just my 2 cents.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:30 PM

80. How is this news?

a real "breaking news" story about mittens would be...

Mitt Romney Allegedly told truth in Court To Screw Over Friend's Wife

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:55 PM

84. At the time, Mass. courts were very pro-wife in divorce cases

A woman friend of mine was trying to get a divorce at the time. It wasn't an amicable divorce, but it wasn't nasty either. There were some hard feelings, but they thought they could make it go smoothly.

After months of wrangling, she and her husband finally came to an agreement on how they would divide the assets.

Then, they went to court. The judge wouldn't approve the divorce. He said that she had to get a greater share of the assets and he told them to go back and work something out.

My friend was livid. She was happy with the settlement and she just wanted out. She told the judge that in court, but the judge insisted that she get more.

So, if this woman got screwed over, then Romney lied, lied, and lied some more.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 05:08 PM

85. I just don't see it. Some people that plan to vote for Romney will tell you face to face that

Romney is a liar. Yet they will vote for Romney. I wonder whether those people have children that are listening to them and watching their actions now. The story of Mitt Romney's life is not what he says when under pressure, but what he choses to do in private, when he has the advantage and there is no pressure. I understand and trust the choices that President Obama will make in those circumstances.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:13 PM

87. it just adds to the whole thing about how he puts personal Profit above anything else

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 06:25 PM

89. Not enough to sway a voter I am afraid.

Now if it had been Tom Cruise that he lied for, that would be another story!

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:59 PM

94. unbelievable

And I read on Another report that he also

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:02 AM

95. unbelievable

And I read on Another report that he also fought to kick her off his health insurance.

The sad part is, this woman also has ms.
You would think that Mitt might be just a little sympathetic.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:15 AM

96. and???

okay so we know he lied. Oh horrors!!!!! He lied. Give me a break, he's been doing what this WHOLE CAMPAIGN, and what may I ask has been done about that. Perjury is a serious offense, for us little people.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:27 AM

97. World leaders would never trust our nation !!!

We can't let this happen. This so called body of flesh has no traits to ever be president of any country. He has Mormon brainwashing .His father knew brainwashing when he saw it. This is really a shock that this race is taking place. Just really a sad day in politics and the news media coverage. This bag of flesh will turn back ALL advances this country has made in the past 20 years.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 05:40 PM

100. Typical MittTwit RobMe: LIE to screw people out of money then make off like a bandit.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 08:42 PM

102. FAMILY VALUES - ROMNEY STYLE






.

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Response to warrior1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 09:58 PM

103. I just hope she sues the Depends off'n him.

Unfortunately with the old boys clubs and Republican-heavy courts that will be one long uphill battle too.

But damage to Rmoney? He'll no. It's all a part of screw-everyone-you-can American Capitalism; especially if he's your (male, white, rich -- is there any other kind?) boy's-club buddy.

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