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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:47 AM

About that whole rape, pregnancy and "God's will" thing...

So...conception from rape is "something that God intended." Ergo, the rapist is an instrument of God, and therefore blameless.

Reminds me of Jerry Falwell saying 9/11 was God's punishment for "the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America."

Ergo, the 9/11 terrorists were instruments of God, and were therefore blameless.

See how that works?

It's a kind of magic.

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Reply About that whole rape, pregnancy and "God's will" thing... (Original post)
WilliamPitt Oct 2012 OP
mac56 Oct 2012 #1
xchrom Oct 2012 #2
MAD Dave Oct 2012 #3
Grammy23 Oct 2012 #26
Arkansas Granny Oct 2012 #38
hifiguy Oct 2012 #4
safeinOhio Oct 2012 #5
Brickbat Oct 2012 #6
femrap Oct 2012 #19
fasttense Oct 2012 #28
Generic Other Oct 2012 #7
femrap Oct 2012 #20
Solly Mack Oct 2012 #8
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WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #9
valerief Oct 2012 #10
Sheepshank Oct 2012 #11
redqueen Oct 2012 #12
hamsterjill Oct 2012 #13
Liberalagogo Oct 2012 #14
The Magistrate Oct 2012 #15
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #16
agtcovert Oct 2012 #21
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #22
stopbush Oct 2012 #17
nostalgicaboutmyfutr Oct 2012 #18
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #23
Liberal Gramma Oct 2012 #24
Gman Oct 2012 #25
WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #27
Gman Oct 2012 #29
historylovr Oct 2012 #30
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #33
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #31
Coyotl Oct 2012 #32
nichomachus Oct 2012 #34
napkinz Oct 2012 #35
hifiguy Oct 2012 #36
Initech Oct 2012 #37
napkinz Oct 2012 #39
napkinz Oct 2012 #40
Media Lies Oct 2012 #41
Care Acutely Oct 2012 #42
GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #43
glinda Oct 2012 #44
ck4829 Oct 2012 #45
Skidmore Oct 2012 #46
napkinz Oct 2012 #47
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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:48 AM

1. this

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:49 AM

2. Du rec. Nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:51 AM

3. Perfect RW logic.

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Response to MAD Dave (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:39 PM

26. You mean there really is LOGIC behind their thinking?

OMG...now that's a scary thought.

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Response to Grammy23 (Reply #26)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:58 PM

38. No, when you put RW in front of logic, it kinda cancels it out.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:52 AM

4. Once reason is abandoned,

all is lost. And reason is to the religulously insane as toilet seats are to hockey - utterly irrelevant.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:54 AM

5. Predestination would also make

every abortion "something that God intended."

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:54 AM

6. Any god who uses evil to manifest his ends is too much of a mystery for me to buy into.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:17 PM

19. Wouldn't that be

 

Lucifer's work??? Making males rape? Are these people Devil Worshippers???

Start throwing the words, Lucifer, Satan, and Devil around about these RW creeps and they'll STFU.

And Mormons....the Fundy RW knows little about this religion. Maybe they like Satan every now and then when it is to their benefit.

I am surrounded by crazy Fundies. I love saying 'Satan' around them. It stops them in their tracks.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:46 PM

28. A Rapist is an instrument of God???

A rapist is in reality an instrument of evil and God is NOT suppose to be evil, so how can a result of rape be God's intention?

God intends for evil to flourish?

Oh you right-to-lifer Christians, always twisting logic and promoting Satan. Just like those right-to-lifer murders and bombers. Doing evil in service of Satan, I mean God. Oh my how Satan and God are so mixed together in a right-to-lifer's mind.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:25 AM

7. Once they go down that road

it isn't far from the public square where women get stoned for being raped. After all, the men could not be expected to control their impulses.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:18 PM

20. If the

 

dudes can't control their sexual impulses, are they prez material? And I doubt they should be allowed to deal with money, do you?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:27 AM

8. Exactly.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:48 AM

9. .

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:51 AM

10. As Sarah told us, Jesus is magic. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:52 AM

11. If something like "god's will be done" in the case of rape.....

then how can anyone separate "God's Will" from the human factor when it comes to murder, dismemberment, torture, disease, illness, lying, cheating, loud and lavicious laughter, prostitution, working on the Sabbath, dishonoring parents, impregnating minors, the human sex slave trade and taking the Lards name in vain?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:52 AM

12. Thank you for this cogent political OP about this topic.

(The religious debates are so tiresome.)

Succinct and on point. K&R

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:54 AM

13. I agree.

And love the "Queen" reference, too! Love that song.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:56 AM

14. It's EXACTLY like

Harry Potter!!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:57 AM

15. There You Go, Sir: The Rapist is God's Instrument To Knock You Up

Hell, you probably go against the will of God if you resist, or afterwards summon the police....

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:05 PM

16. Seems appropriate tho throw this into the mix...

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:19 PM

21. This is a perfect illustration...

of how the wheels have just come off the train completely. For as much as the right lauds Reagan, he'd have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected in the current Republican party. They're quite practiced at ignoring history and facts anyway.

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Response to agtcovert (Reply #21)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:22 PM

22. "They're quite practiced at ignoring history and facts anyway."

Especially their own.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:10 PM

17. The flaw in the argument is, of course, that god doesn't exist.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:13 PM

18. Why only one rec button?? EOM

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:28 PM

24. So...everything is God's will?

Even evil? That's not quite how I remember it from Sunday School. Maybe this guy was a dropout.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:38 PM

25. Actually, Christians believe that

Satan is the source of all evil. If rape is evil, it comes from Satan. Therefore, how can a pregnancy from rape be God's will?

Ask 'em this and watch for the puzzled look.

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Response to Gman (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:40 PM

27. Satan is from God, too.

...bzzzzt...does not compute...bzzzt...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #27)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:47 PM

29. If you know the story of the fall of the angels

It does make sense.

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Response to Gman (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:49 PM

30. They'll say that God allowed it to happen.

You know, to test us, or something. Or maybe it's punishment. And what can you expect from a vengeful Mesopotamian deity?

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Response to Gman (Reply #25)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:52 PM

33. If Satan punishes evil-doers, doesn't that make him a good guy? ?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:50 PM

31. It's like saying murder is OK because orphaning children is "God's Will". R/T/Mourdock logic. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:51 PM

32. About that whole rape, pregnancy and "human imagination" thing...

Let's be scientific about this. Figments of imagination are personal and there is no outside counterpart to imagination. "I imagined it, therefore it is" is pure poppycock. And that, my friends, is the gist of this problem. The cure is education. Magical thinking is bullshit.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:05 PM

34. Romney is going to announce that Rick Santorum

will be his Pro-Rape Czar

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:50 PM

35. kick

nt







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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:51 PM

36. Epicurus and David Hume

refuted religion with the most basic logic. It still remains true today. Core truths have a wat of doing that.

God is all-powerful.
God is perfectly good.
Evil exists.
If God exists, there would be no evil.
Therefore God does not exist.
-- Epicurus , his logical formmulation which we have dubbed the "Epicurean Riddle"; quoted from William Hart, Evil: A Primer (2004), pages 28-29

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
-- David Hume, echoing the logical formulation that we have dubbed the "Epicurean Riddle"; quoted from William Hart, Evil: A Primer (2004), pages 28-29

BTW, I do not consider Buddhism to be a "religion" because it categorically rejects the notion of a godhead or a messiah.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 02:56 PM

37. What kind of fucked up god do these freaks worship?

To quote Stephen Colbert: "This just in, Jesus has quit!"

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:13 PM

39. so Paul Ryan said last week there's no war on women ...













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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 03:34 PM

40. posted in another thread by LuckyTheDog











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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:01 PM

41. We must all strive to prevent our Fascist government from becoming a Theosophy!

 

What would the gigantic corporations that rule the U.S.A. do if they were forced to obey the Golden Rule or embrace concepts like Christian charity?

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Response to Media Lies (Reply #41)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 04:42 PM

42. oh dear

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:15 PM

43. Then there's the Virgin Mary conundrum.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 11:53 PM

44. Well it would certainly decriminalize rape wouldn't it? Oh joy.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:13 AM

45. It is magic

This is the inevitable result when you think logic has a liberal bias.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 07:17 AM

46. Well, Falwell was the founder of the Moral Majority movement.

He prayed death and destruction on many groups and certainly was not a strong supporter of women's rights, except if they could turn their earnings over to his coffers.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:57 AM

47. The GOP Chart










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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:42 AM

48. When some god-botherer starts talking about "God's Will" I tune out.

It's fatalist BS that precludes any sense of morality and responsibility.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 01:20 PM

49. kick

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