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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:46 AM

WOW. Romney OKs Unsealing of Divorce Records.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82805.html

In regards to the Gloria Allred/Boston Globe motion to unseal the divorce records of Tom Stemberg:

Mitt Romney doesn’t object to the unsealing of his testimony in the divorce case of a friend, according to a report on Wednesday.
“This is a decades-old divorce case in which Mitt Romney provided testimony as to the value of a company. He has no objection to letting the public see that testimony,” Robert Jones, a lawyer for Romney, told Time.

A source told Time that Romney’s testimony helped determine the value of some Staples stock that was part of the divorce settlement. Romney, as the head of Bain Capital, had invested in Staples. Tom Stemberg, a Staples co-founder, is a longtime friend of the former Massachusetts governor and spoke at the Republican National Convention.


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Reply WOW. Romney OKs Unsealing of Divorce Records. (Original post)
berni_mccoy Oct 2012 OP
porphyrian Oct 2012 #1
Autumn Colors Oct 2012 #3
porphyrian Oct 2012 #22
CBGLuthier Oct 2012 #4
porphyrian Oct 2012 #24
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #14
porphyrian Oct 2012 #26
TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #2
southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #32
Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #5
CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #18
WinkyDink Oct 2012 #6
HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #7
nc4bo Oct 2012 #12
woodsprite Oct 2012 #8
mmonk Oct 2012 #9
WinkyDink Oct 2012 #11
GDoyle Oct 2012 #10
dems_rightnow Oct 2012 #13
BenzoDia Oct 2012 #15
OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #23
BenzoDia Oct 2012 #30
OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #16
alc Oct 2012 #17
trailmonkee Oct 2012 #19
BelieveMe3 Oct 2012 #20
ananda Oct 2012 #21
malaise Oct 2012 #25
Bonhomme Richard Oct 2012 #27
AngryAmish Oct 2012 #28
Liberalynn Oct 2012 #29
WinkyDink Oct 2012 #31
Blueprogress Oct 2012 #33

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:47 AM

1. So, what's the story, then? Why do we care? n/t

 

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Response to porphyrian (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:50 AM

3. Supposedly, she's also trying to get a gag order lifted

So the parties involved can talk publicly about Romney.

EDIT: Maybe the wife has some dirt?

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Response to Autumn Colors (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:09 AM

22. I guess we'll find out today. n/t

 

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Response to porphyrian (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:50 AM

4. Perhaps, Perjury? That would be a good one.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:10 AM

24. Yes, if on record. n/t

 

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Response to porphyrian (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:56 AM

14. If Willard severely misrepresented the shares she received, that's an issue.

Plus, she sold her shares before Staples went public. She lost out on big bucks. Who bought those shares and what did they know - and not let her know - when they bought them? Did Willard buy them on the cheap? Also, there is an issue with her being denied medical insurance while suffering from two forms of cancer.

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #14)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:11 AM

26. Hmm, interesting... n/t

 

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:49 AM

2. Two thieves helping each other.

It's called republicanism.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:44 AM

32. LOL, that is funny but true.

 

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:51 AM

5. I don't think he can legally object....

The principles in the case can object, but I don't think a witness has standing to demand that records be sealed (or remain sealed).

In any case, they're probably think that jumping on a live hand grenade like this will be worse than letting the information come to light.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:04 AM

18. right

he had his buddy object for him (the ex husband).

this is just spin to make him look good.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:52 AM

6. He's going all in, hoping that---as the poster above shows---nobody will care that Romney PERJURED

HIMSELF when he TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT OF A FRAUD, to wit:

At the EXACT moment Romney and Bain Capital were preparing to take Staples---a company in which Mitt Romney was literally the initial investor, to the tune of $650,000---public, indicating great confidence in its future worth, Romney was testifying in the divorce case that no, Staples wasn't really worth much, nah, give my friend Tom a divorce settlement BREAK here, Judge!

Links in other threads.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:52 AM

7. Considering the male support for R's...conspiring to defraud an ex-spouse

might have no negative impact on Romney at all.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:55 AM

12. But could always turn some of those dum...er Undecided ladies into angry badgers.

Some of them might be just a bit interested.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:53 AM

8. Guess he'd rather have those unsealed than us be hounding him for his tax returns. n/t

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:53 AM

9. His lawyer is getting ahead of the story

and whatever it will reveal.

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Response to mmonk (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:54 AM

11. Exactly. Get it out, hope to get it over. Pretend that "it's an old story" that means nothing.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:53 AM

10. He Could Object

But he'd probably lose anyways and then looks like there is something he is afraid of. He had no choice but to respond, he was served. So saying no problem lets him spin it as "nothing to see here"

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:55 AM

13. Expect Stemberg to object vehemently

After all, he's the principle. He'll claim that it's just an attempt to gather political dirt. (Probably true, that one)

That way Romney looks like he has no problem with the testimony, and it dies.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:00 AM

15. I don't think most voters will care if Romney lied about the value of some stock.

It's beyond the realm of most people's daily concerns.

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Response to BenzoDia (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:10 AM

23. Just another one of Mitt's lies. No problem. Who cares. Is that what you're really saying?....

The issue here has to do with the willingness of Romney to lie about the value of Staples' stock, which set the value of the cash settlement in the divorce between Stemberg and his former wife. Stemberg was able to pay his wife much less than the stock was really worth. The next year Staples went public and the stock was much more valuable, something Romney should have known at the time of his sworn testimony.

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #23)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:26 AM

30. Well certainly it's a hideous issue and would sink him in a sane world.

But imo, anyone who wasn't disgusted by his tax and Bain capital shenanigans won't be swayed by this either. They either don't care or don't understand. Probably the latter.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:02 AM

16. Mitt is trying to appear publicly unconcerned by taking the high road and not objecting to....

...the unsealing of his testimony. I think he's counting on the judge ruling against GA's client, and/or Stemberg strongly objecting to the unsealing.

If GA is involved, something is there, trust me.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:03 AM

17. look cooperative publicly

Don't piss anyone off (i.e. the judge) or make it look like a big deal. Then spend 2 weeks "making sure the right process is followed to be fair to Stemberg".

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:05 AM

19. the fact that he is mentioning, means there is something there...

I predict it will hurt him...

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:06 AM

20. it reinforces an image


of Mitt as anti-woman if he helped cheat the wife. This on top of the anti-woman rape nonsense yesterday with Romney in that idiot's ad and not telling him to take it down, and it's just more of Mitt being anti-female.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:08 AM

21. Lol. And. what about unsealing those tax returns?

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:11 AM

25. This won't get far unless it is linked to the tax issues raised by Harry Reid

because WilLIARd is a pathological LIAR.

I just hope this is the big Harry Reid story - two weeks before the election - this would be orgasmic.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:11 AM

27. Romney is betting it will go right over the heads of his....

supporters....and it probably will. Way too much thinking involved.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:16 AM

28. Romney's feelings on whether his testimony should be unseal is irrelevant

He is not a party to the agreement to seal the records. I doubt he even has a transcript of his testimony. The divorced people are the only one who have standing to object or not object.



BTW, who is Allred representing in this matter?


on edit: I read the article that I should have done before posting. Romney's buddy is going to object to unsealing the records. Allred has to represent someone. When Obama got Ryan's (senate candidate, not vp candidate) records unseal what he did was get the Chicago Tribune and some other news organizations to go to court saying they had a 1st Amendment right to know and all that. Both the Ryan's objected but since both Ruyans were public figures then it was unsealed.

insert Jeri Ryan pic here





In the instant matter, neither party is running for anything so it is going to be tougher.

And we still don't know who Allred represents.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #28)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:25 AM

29. Isn't the Boston Globe involved in this somehow too?

Maybe Allred represents the wife in this case? I don't know just guessing.

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Response to Liberalynn (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:28 AM

31. The Boston Globe IS THE PARTY REQUESTING the unsealing.

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Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:48 AM

33. Rmoney hopes that

Trump's BS divorce reveal with be seen as equivalent and thus neutralize the fact that he is and always will be a lying, cheating, dishonest, not fit for anything POS.
However, I do believe that this might turn off some women voters, especially those who are just leaning Romney. If I am reading this story correctly thus far, Rmoney distorted the facts in court to stiff some lady out of a proper divorce settlement. If this is true, this is not good at all.
Why do we think righties like Drudge were freaking out? Why do we believe Trump decided to reveal a divorce related story around the same time? This is his attempt to neutralize any potiential damage. Even though they may say it is nothing, their actions clearly show that the righties do not believe this is a non issue.

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