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Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:48 AM

 

You know why maddow is deppressed? cause of this PPP POLL HERE

ppp just came out with a poll that sampled women 10 percent higher then men. 55-45 meaning that on election day women will vote 10 percent higher then men. PLEASE someone explain to me on what fucking planet in the history of our country have women EVER voted in that large number? not single time has there ever been a 5 percent margin LET A LONE 10 percent. then you have 41 percent democrats polled. 6 percent higher then repugs.. THATS a 16 point favor for a group of people that favor omaba. and WE ARE DOWN in this poll. He also has 45 percent approval rating.. which AGIAN no incombent has EVER won the presidency with lower then 50 percent approval rating. were 5 points below that. Romney is winning the indies by a large margin.

If romney is up 2 points with all of those factors.. what happens if men and women turnout like they do in every election 51-49? thats 8 point loss and GOD help us if that 6 point dem turnout is lowered to 2-3 points. which basically means that gallup poll isnt so crazy.

folks, bagela, maddow.. whatever you think of them as commentators have A LOT of connection to the obama campaign. they speak with the everyday folks there. THEY KNOW what the fuck is going on. they cant mention it on tv but there is a reason why maddow is deppressed. she knows were fucking losing this thing. WE NEED to be up in these polls by 7-8 points NOT DOWN 2. and that ABC poll that came out today? were down 4 points in the battleground states.

im not going to stick my head in the sand.. iv put up with this shit long enough theres only 2 weeks more to the election and im not gonna pretend everything is great and how were winning.

WE NEED to go scorched earth policy on romney. Tonights debate did a great job of that. fuck i thought romney was going to endorse obama for a second.

But heres my plan.

1. We use thirdy party hit squads like gloria alred. find ex maids , employs and pay them to tell there story. theres gotta be tons that romneys family esp that witch ann mistreated. this really worked well agianst meg whittman in california.
2. 3rd party ads about mormonism and how they believe in space aliens and that jesus landed in utah and run those in states like ohio and NC and PA and Florida.
3. Runs ads of the women who romney tried to force to have unwanted fetus. how he tried to bully her and threatend to kick her out of the church.
4. runs ads of his son have a stake in voting machines
5. run ads of him with the threat that hes going to round up mexicans and ask them for ids to prove there citizen. shit this is already happening in AZ.

folks we need to go ape shit on romney. i swear i feel like im being led down the execution chamber with white lights while everyone keeps telling me "everything is going to be okay youll be safe now." while they lay me down and inject me full of cynide.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/102010211022TrackingPoll.pdf

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oldhippydude Oct 2012 #5
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Divine Discontent Oct 2012 #26
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Cha Oct 2012 #14
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Cha Oct 2012 #15
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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:49 AM

1. You Can Get It If You Really Want

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:52 AM

2. What's ape shit is going crazy over one robocalling polling outfit's snapshot

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:54 AM

3. give it a couple of days to have RMoneys stupid sweaty blank face flesh out

anyway theres always OHIO-NEVADA-IOWA. Ticket to term 2.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:55 AM

4. wut

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:55 AM

5. kinda wonder if someone with 26 posts might be a troll...

aint sayin... just thinkin

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:24 AM

21. NOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAY!

Translation: Yes.

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:50 AM

26. haha

I know, right? the ending to the post is just pure wackadoo-ness!



Get it here --->
http://www.zazzle.com/which_face_today_mitt_romney_bumper_sticker-128778323738073483?rf=238107662556833486

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:42 AM

38. It looks like genuine concern to me

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:43 AM

39. I was thinking the same thing--

Troll.

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:49 AM

64. Obvious case of trolling

The plan of action says it all. Not even a convincing effort.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #64)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 08:42 AM

66. Illiterate troll.

Pathetic attempt. I hope it gets banned.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:56 AM

6. "she knows were fucking losing this thing"

Please show me a state by state electoral vote map where Romney is currently leading Obama...

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:59 AM

7. I've been drinking heavily.

Do you have a fucking point here or are you just asking a question?

Is this a poll?

A pole??

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 02:59 AM

8. parts 1 and 2 of your plan wouldn't be too wise at this point.

 

there could be too much voter backlash from people who would find such attacks as kind of cheap/desperate this close to the election.
I halfway expect Kkkarl Rove to try stuff like that as it is.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:02 AM

9. Is Maddow depressed? Not disputing your own observation but it's something I haven't noticed

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:03 AM

10. in the alter space " they " live in, who knows.

What about Unicorns? I miss those..

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:08 AM

11. Who are you?

And what is this crapola you're posting? WE'RE NOT FUCKING LOSING THIS THING. If you're not the troll you seem, chill the fuck out and stop believing bogus polls. Forget stuff about "likely voters." Actual voters, those that have voted early (and I am one of them) have voted 2 to 1 for the President so calm the hell down. We will proceed as we have been in pursuing our winning campaign and kicking Romney ass as the Pres. did tonight.

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Response to brush (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:14 AM

14. +1

brush

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:26 AM

23. +2, hello and goodbye

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:01 AM

47. Quite a debate, huh, Cha? nt

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:10 AM

12. Rachel's depressed?

Huh.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:12 AM

13. Chill out Chicken Little

Obama's game has always been the electoral college, never the national popular vote count. Win the swing states and win the election.

PPP also did a poll after the debate looking only at the swing states:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-wins-debate-by-11-points-in-swing-states.html

Good luck with the cyanide. Make sure you vote absentee before you inject.

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Response to 20895DEM (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:16 AM

15. Welcome to DU, 20895DEM!

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:18 AM

16. Aren't those robocolls?

Nobody really knows who these people are. I am not really sure people are honestly answering these robocolls at this point.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:20 AM

17. You know why I'm trashing your thread? Because it's stinks.

Please, use spellcheck. And, don't try to get Dems to play dirty.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:21 AM

18. nt

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:23 AM

19. Popular vote of "likely voters" in ONE push poll means squat.

It takes 270+ to win, and RobMey's chances of getting 270 self-deported to Mars already.

So your plan *may* not do squat. It should be: GOTV (go volunteer to help GOTV from, i dunno, tomorrow?).

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:24 AM

20. First of all we are NOT losing and second sorry but I don't

trust someone with 26 posts showing all this "concern" and telling us to go all "ape shit".

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:25 AM

22. cousin

 

cousin just walked me back from the cliff

just got of the phone with him. hes a pro obama lite that didnt even vote for obama 4 years ago. so hes not some obama hack.

about the debate " dude obama wiped the floor with romney. dont look at any polls right now. wait till polls account for this ass kicking tonight "

kind of made me feel better. a bit more calm now. but guys can you imagine where we would be if obama had a night like tonight the first night? i felt so confident in 08 and now im all jittery!! haha

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Response to gattaca82 (Reply #22)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:34 AM

25. So how about helping for getting out the vote?

State location? County? City?

Please report to local Dem org if possible!

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:32 AM

24. Um, poll-meister Nate Silver does not agree with you. He's got Obama at 70.3% tonight.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Your suggestions sound Rovian, and transparently desperate. There has already been a Romney maid story, and that got no traction. Ads saying his son has a stake in voting machines will just depress the vote. And Obama already has 70% of the latino vote, they already know Romney is anti-immigrant (he referred to undocumented immigrants as "illegals" in the second debate!).

Go work a phone bank. And chill.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 03:59 AM

27. Yes, "bagela" is right. Women will never vote for "Omaba" "AGIAN!!!" We are doomed!!!

Spell check is your friend, troll.

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Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:55 PM

56. Holy shit!

I voted for some guy named OBAMA not OMABA!!!

WE ARE SCREWN!!!!

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:06 AM

28. You might consider chilling out.

Such hyperventilation is not good for your health.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 04:12 AM

32. People are going bonkers over these polls

Seriously, some people need to chill out.

All polls are wrong. Every single one of them. It's called a margin of error.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #32)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:12 AM

52. People said the same thing when Kerry was running

and I got caught flatfooted because I thought people on this board were right about them and the polls were not accurate due a myriad of reasons. I won't exhale till it is all over. It is too close for my comfort.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 05:37 AM

33. Nate Silver, who has predicted most of the last several elections correctly

Has Obama winning by a pretty huge margin.

I don't think Maddow is worried and neither should you be.

Obama's chances of winning are 70.3%. Mitt's chances of winning are 29.7%

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 06:32 AM

34. You may have a mild form of Romnesia

You said

which AGIAN no incombent has EVER won the presidency with lower then 50 percent approval rating


But look Bush did:

www.nytimes.com Washington Campaign 2004Similar
You +1'd this publicly. Undo
Oct 19, 2004 Discovery Times Video: Page One: Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2004 ... Mr. Bush's job approval rating is at 44 percent, a dangerously low number for an ...


Of course, since that election was stolen, you may still be right but on face value it looks like you may have a mild form of Romnesia, or perhaps you don't check points you claim as fact.

Plus when did you diagnose Maddow with depression? Is this another Romnesia based fact?

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:03 AM

35. Thanks for your concern....

enjoy your short stay.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:33 AM

36. I've not noticed Maddow's depression but I have noticed her ANGER

her anger at a candidate that has no serious plans, that thinks it's okay to spew what he thinks people want to hear about the issues when he's in front of millions but then says things otherwise at rallies and on secret tapes.

BTW, that poll is from 2011. Maybe you and Romney are in the same time warp.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #36)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:49 AM

42. Where do you get that it's from 2011?

The bottom, left of each page says:
October 20-22, 2012
Survey of 1,200 likely voters

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Response to pintobean (Reply #42)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:09 AM

46. From the link itself

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/102010211022TrackingPoll.pdf

I didn't look at the poll, my bad but by looking at the URL I concluded it was from 2011.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:40 AM

37. when you come to do this could you spell Obama correctly?

"THATS a 16 point favor for a group of people that favor omaba." u wrote

Maddow's depressed?

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:43 AM

40. Oh mah Gawddddd!!! The CONCERN in your post is JUST overwhelming!!!! nt.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:44 AM

41. Look, my spelling is atrocious. But I use spell check before I post.

I cannot take this...thing...posted seriously.
And it's Begala. Paul Begala.

Low count posters and elections. Can we have some kind of rule that they need 300 posts before making an OP? Please?

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 07:56 AM

43. Something I noticed about the cross tabs of this poll

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They only sample 9% African Americans, and Latino's. Looked like an under sampling to me. So I decided to try, and crunch the numbers.This is what I came up with

The Combined population of those swing states is 88,906,959
The population of African Americans in those swing states is 12,0726,615

So the percentage of African Americans in those states comes to roughly about 13.6%

That means they under sampled that demographic by over 4.5%

The total number of Latino's in those swing is about 9,446,094 which is about 10.6% so they were under sampled by over a 1.5%

There you have it 2 key demographics that favor Obama were under sampled, and he still won this poll. Also there is a well documented gender gap, and I believe Obama will carry women by 10% minimum. Probably closer to 15. Not going to try and crunch anymore numbers today, but I believe Democrats have about 9% advantage nationally among registered voters, and it's probably bigger than that among those swing states. Finally as talented a Rachel is I doubt she had time to crunch the numbers on this poll while she was making a fool of Steve Schmidt on live TV. So she wasn't depressed.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:00 AM

44. Maddow "knew" we were losing in 2008 too

She kept asking everyone to talk her off the ledge. People started turning her off towards the end of the campaign.

Oh! By the way, she was wrong in case you didn't notice.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 08:07 AM

45. Your proposal is what the Republicans would have the Koch brothers etc do

Not to mention Maddow did not appear depressed and you are pointing to the raw data of the poll. Every legitimate pollster reweights with accurate population estimates.

Something tells me you are likely not really one of us.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:02 AM

48. Obvious Troll Is Obvious.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #48)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:07 AM

49. seriously

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:10 AM

50. I'll tell you why Maddow is fucking depressed......

That women, 50% of the population, are being treated like crap. That they have to actually vote in huge, huge numbers to get the treatment of equality. That 100 women have to overwhelm Republican Men in order to have a voice that is equal to two of their asinine anti reproductive health votes. That women nationwide realize that the men won't do it for them...in fact, those men would rather take away. That women have to jump through hoops to prove they have worth. Why does anyone have to prove they have worth? It makes me sad too that women in 2012 still have to go through this shit.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #50)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:16 AM

54. "Why does anyone have to prove they have worth?"

Totally Agree same old same old same old same old same old

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:11 AM

51. Rachel Maddow is depressed because of your horrendous spelling skills.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 10:16 AM

53. lol. I liked the second half of your OP

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:46 PM

55. PERRYBO?

This was posted on Intrade by PERRYBO. Sound familiar:

"Last night's PPP poll validaties what Gallup and Rasmussen are seeing. The PPP poll which sampled women 10 percent higher then men. 55-45 and Dems 41-35 is pretty devasting for Obama prospects. It's why Obama longs have been dumping all day today. Obama has a 45% approval rating and trails Romeny 49-47. No incumbent has EVER won the presidency with lower then 50 percent approval rating. Obama is 5 points below that in a juiced sample. Romney is winning the indies by a large margin +9.

Factor in that undecideds will break to the challenger and Republican enthusiasm is higher than Dems. Which basically means that the Gallup poll isnt so crazy."

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Response to 20895DEM (Reply #55)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:04 AM

58. self deleting

Last edited Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:14 AM - Edit history (2)

my apology

misread, jumped the gun

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #58)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:45 AM

59. ?? wait you think I am a troll? Read my post

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Response to 20895DEM (Reply #55)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:35 AM

67. LOL...good catch

It's word for word.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:02 AM

57. If English Isn't Your Second Language I Feel Sorry For You./nt

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 12:48 AM

60. Well then....there's nothing left for me to do but not vote. Thanks for saving me the gas.

It's fucking Troll-A-Rama in this fucking place !

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:24 AM

61. can we please get this troll off DU?

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:42 AM

62. next time thru, try harder...

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Response to dionysus (Reply #62)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:46 AM

63. Agree, not at all a convincing effort

at trolling as a Dem. I just advocated for not calling new people trolls, but some cases are too obvious.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:52 AM

65. None of us are depressed

Obama's got this one.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:56 AM

68. the only poll that matter are votes and we are winning ,our fundamentals are strong state by state n

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:57 AM

69. Is This A Parody?

I might not be the greatest writer but the writing skills of the original poster come much closer to the writing skills found on right wing sites than on left wing sites.

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Response to gattaca82 (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:40 PM

70. Go transplant some more hair.

Why, yes, we have found you out.

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