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Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:30 PM

FOX News banned from Canada for lying during news cast

http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2011/03/02/fox-shut-out-of-canada-because-of-a-law-against-lying-during-newscasts/

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Reply FOX News banned from Canada for lying during news cast (Original post)
Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 OP
Little Star Jan 2012 #1
southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #12
Go Vols Jan 2012 #14
DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #2
quinnox Jan 2012 #3
handmade34 Jan 2012 #4
fascisthunter Jan 2012 #5
Hulk Jan 2012 #6
pintobean Jan 2012 #7
onenote Jan 2012 #17
RZM Jan 2012 #8
DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #13
onenote Jan 2012 #26
MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #36
KansDem Jan 2012 #9
lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #10
Spazito Jan 2012 #11
iverglas Jan 2012 #16
Spazito Jan 2012 #22
polly7 Jan 2012 #21
Spazito Jan 2012 #24
iverglas Jan 2012 #25
polly7 Jan 2012 #28
iverglas Jan 2012 #29
laundry_queen Jan 2012 #35
onenote Jan 2012 #15
Spazito Jan 2012 #18
iverglas Jan 2012 #19
pintobean Jan 2012 #20
SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #23
pintobean Jan 2012 #27
SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #30
Scurrilous Jan 2012 #31
iverglas Jan 2012 #32
DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #33
sarcasmo Jan 2012 #34

Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:34 PM

1. Canada has a law prohibiting lying on broadcast news? Wow....

wouldn't that be nice here?

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Response to Little Star (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:17 PM

12. Fox News has managed to destroy democracy with out firing a shot.

 

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Response to Little Star (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:20 PM

14. there was a similar law in the US until

Ronald Reagan abolished the “Fairness Doctrine” in 1987.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM

2. The story was from last March!

 

And I thought I had a problem with procrastination!

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:37 PM

3. Fox news is no better than Goebbels propaganda machine

 

in Nazi Germany. They have done much harm by brainwashing to American citizens.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:39 PM

5. Fox News(in the US) wouldn't Survive such a High Standard

all they do is fucking lie to Americans, pitting Americans up against each other so the 1% can get away with crime.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:46 PM

6. I sure wish they were BANNED here in Mexico!

Be aware!....fox is hitting ALL of Latin America, and very possibly many other reaches of the world with their propaganda machine. It's FREE down here in Mexico now...and I'm hoping it vanishes off the cable channels, but I seriously doubt it. NO advertisements....24/7 propaganda, dosed with just a dash of "food, medicine, news, etc" to keep the viewers attached and believing fox is actually something besides a propaganda outlet.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:56 PM

7. From Wikipedia

In 2003, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) rejected a Canadian Cable Telecommunications Association (CCTA) application to bring Fox News to Canada because Fox News U.S. and Global Television were planning to create Fox News Canada, a combination of U.S. and Canadian news. However in 2004, after a Fox U.S. executive said there were no plans to create the combined channel, the CRTC approved an application to bring Fox News to Canada.

Fox News Channel is currently offered by Access Communications, Bell TV, Cogeco, Eastlink, Manitoba Telecom Services, Rogers, SaskTel, Shaw Cable, Shaw Direct and Telus TV. A notable exception is Vidéotron, Canada's third largest cable company, which has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:28 PM

17. Not surprising that Videotron doesn't carry it

since Videotron is owned by Quebecor which owns Sun News which essentially is a competitor to Fox News.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:56 PM

8. Looks like the blogger got this story way wrong

 

Fox is apparently already on in Canada. They were approved back in 2004:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

Sun-TV News is not Murdoch affiliated. Apparently it is owned by Quebecor Media:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_TV_News

The confusion seems to be that some people were referring to Sun colloquially as 'Fox News North'

A look at Fox's wikipedia page says they are on most cable outlets in Canada:

'In 2003, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) rejected a Canadian Cable Telecommunications Association (CCTA) application to bring Fox News to Canada because Fox News U.S. and Global Television were planning to create Fox News Canada, a combination of U.S. and Canadian news. However in 2004, after a Fox U.S. executive said there were no plans to create the combined channel, the CRTC approved an application to bring Fox News to Canada.

Fox News Channel is currently offered by Access Communications, Bell TV, Cogeco, Eastlink, Manitoba Telecom Services, Rogers, SaskTel, Shaw Cable, Shaw Direct and Telus TV. A notable exception is Vidéotron, Canada's third largest cable company, which has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News_Channel

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Response to RZM (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:17 PM

13. The link posted in the OP

 

is to a story from March 2 of last year.

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Response to DeathToTheOil (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:16 PM

26. Yep. And the information reported was wrong then, too.

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Response to onenote (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 13, 2012, 01:56 PM

36. Yet, it remains on the Greatest Page.

This is just one more reason we need unrec.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:08 PM

9. Q: Which FOX News broadcast got them banned in Canada?

A: Why, all of them!

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:11 PM

10. I hope this is the beginning of a trend.








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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:12 PM

11. Sadly, they are not banned from here, we can still get it...

if we pay extra for it. I suspect the number of Canadians doing that is relatively small.

What was upheld is the regulation that prohibits the dissemination of false or misleading news. It did stop, however, any of Canada's broadcast/cable media from going the way of Fox which is great!

The CRTC (Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission), under a Harper-appointed hack, was trying to change the regulation to:

"...apply only in cases when broadcasters know the information they are sharing is untrue and when it “endangers or is likely to endanger the lives, health or safety of the public.”

Because they must hold public hearings on these kinds of changes, Canadians had the chance to 'speak' in opposition to the proposed change and did so overwhelmingly.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/crtc-ditches-bid-to-allow-fake-news/article1921489/



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Response to Spazito (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:25 PM

16. thank you, Spazito

 

I'd been about to go running off to check the on-screen program guide to see whether I should be jumping for joy!

We had FoxNews during its initial free preview -- which was supposed to be two months and somehow dragged on for months and months. I always wondered whether they actually got approval for that. I guess they finally managed to sign up enough people for the cable companies to afford it. Although I wouldn't be surprised if FoxNews pays the distributors to carry it.

Have you watched SunTV at all? Worse than one would expect from the source of the Sun papers even. No page 3 "girl", though. Their website is dreadful.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/

I think I watched 10 minutes of Ezra Levant once. There's someone who should stick to not trying to talk extemporaneously. I went and researched, on line, the story he was talking about: a lesbian couple insulted and assaulted in a comedy club by a comic and bar employees. Oddly, it wasn't at all the way he had described it ...

>> SEE all videos
About Ezra Levant

Hailed as "Canada's no.1 defender of free speech," best-selling author, lawyer, blogger and general trouble-maker, Calgary's Ezra Levant is one of Canada's best-known conservative pundits. A veteran journalist, Ezra covered national politics, the Supreme Court and the Middle East for the National Post and founded the Western Standard magazine, the only Canadian media outlet to publish the Danish cartoons of Mohammed. His best-selling books include Shakedown: How Our Government is Undermining Democracy in the Name of Human Rights and Ethical Oil: The Case for Canada's Oil Sands. His non-televised rants appear at ezralevant.com


Summarized as: right-wing provocateur.

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Response to iverglas (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:45 PM

22. LOL, I had the same reaction when I read the header...

went looking for the news articles on my trusted news sites ie CBC, etc, and......nothing. I was VERY disappointed but realized in searching the key words "Fox banned in Canada" what this OP was actually about so thought I would add some clarity.

As to Sun News, nope, have never watched it, will never watch it and, in all honesty, I have no idea where it would be found on my cable and thank (fill in the blank) for that!

Just seeing the name Ezra Levant causes me to struggle to hold down my lunch. He was and continues to by a lying POS.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:36 PM

21. That's what I thought, too ...

but when I subscribed to Shaw it automatically came with a bundle of networks I did want. The representative on the phone originally asked me if I would like Fox ........... I said are you kidding??", so, I didn't think I'd get it. Turns out ...... I do.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:51 PM

24. Yes, it is there on the listing but only accessible if you pay an additional...

fee for it over and above the usual tier choices I believe. It is found above tier 4, it seems to me.




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Response to Spazito (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:07 PM

25. on Rogers Ontario it is definitely "pay"

 

It is digital, and comes as a single pay channel or in one of the news packages. (There are also MSNBC, which we did pay for at one time - we had both MSNBC and FoxNews during Katrina; and Deutche Welle and I forget what other international news services, and I think we can also get Al-Jazeera now ... when finances get back on better footing here, which Harper isn't helping as my work is largely tied to Parliament, we may just go for it, along with the co-vivant's English soccer channel.) We do get BBC World News on either basic or next-tier cable. If you do and don't watch regularly, check out the Doha Debates, around noon on Sunday I think.
http://www.thedohadebates.com/

The local Fox channel on regular basic cable carries the Sunday morning FoxNews show and you might want to check that one out. I was watching it for a while and the co-vivant was scoffing, but he tried it and liked it. The host is one of the better interviewers on air, and actually requires that interviewees answer his questions occasionally. The guests may be Republican nomination candidates, but he doesn't always suck up to them.

If I were diligent, I'd watch news on TV5 more often, French and Belgian newscasts in French. Instead, I just watch Des Chiffres et des Nombres and try to beat the contestants at the math and word puzzles.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:36 PM

28. Hmmm

I'll have to look into it. I was led to believe it was bundled with the other channels I did want. I've never watched it and don't really mind that it's just there, but if I'm paying extra for it, I'm gonna be a little pissed off.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:58 PM

29. Fox yes, FoxNews no?

 

Fox is just whatever local Fox network channel is available -- it carries shows like 24 and I forget what we're watching on there these days. I'm not sure whether it's basic cable or the next tier up. (We have digital and the full package up to individual pay channels, so we don't go for the Movie Network or HBO Canada or such, but we have time-shifting and a couple of the pays, like Mystery, for my late-night falling-asleep CI and SVU viewing.)

FoxNews is a whole nother thing from Fox.

But as I mentioned, our local Fox channel carries the FoxNews Sunday morning program -- I think that's the only FoxNews programming it carries.

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Response to polly7 (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:26 PM

35. No, you're right - same thing here

I'm with Telus and they bundle Fox News with CNN, MSNBC, CBCnews, CNBC, CTVnewsnet, AlJazeera etc. It's called simply the 'news' package. No Sun-whatever-they-call-it yet. My dad has it through Shaw, and it's bundled too. I saw it at his place once. It was truly awful, laughable even. Worse than Fox.

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:24 PM

15. Does anyone care that that this is old and largely false information?

First, Sun News is not Fox. Its not owned or otherwise affiliated with News Corp. Its owned by Quebecor. It was dubbed "Fox News North" because it was believed (probably with good reason) that it wanted to create a Fox-style conservative news channel. But Fox wasn't shut out of Canada because Fox wasn't the one trying to get into Canada.

Second, Sun News was not "banned" from getting on the Canadian airwaves. Originally, it sought a type of license from the Canadian authorities that would have given it mandatory carriage rights on cable and satellite companies operating in Canada (just as certain other "basic" channels are given). The verdict from the Canadian authorities was that the channel wasn't unique enough to warrant that sort of categorization. So, ultimately, Sun News applied for and received a lower category license that allows it to broadcast but doesn't give it mandatory carriage rights. It launched in the Spring of 2011 and is being carried by some cable and satellite providers in Canada.

Of course there is more to the story. For example, there were reports that the Harper government had put pressure on the Canadian authorities to approve the original mandatory carriage license. There also were reprots that Quebecor officials were seen meeting with Roger Ailes. However, there seems to be no evidence that Fox ever had or planned to have an ownership or management stake in the network.

I'm not trying to defend Sun News, but there is no reason for DUers to be misled about this story.

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Response to onenote (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:32 PM

18. This story, albeit wrong, re Fox is regarding a CRTC decision...

separate from the Sun News demands for special treatment re Category 1 placement and then Category 2 placement with additional protections.

The first demand was turned down, the second was withdrawn.

Neither CRTC decision was directly related to FNN itself.

Article re Sun News/CRTC:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/sun-tv-gears-down-licence-application/article1743859/

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Response to onenote (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:33 PM

19. and thank you too

 

Yes, the information at the blog really is largely false in the ways you describe.

It certainly galls me that the thing is available for "free" in standard and all other cable packages (as is that Christian one now). If anything ever qualified as a "specialty" channel ...

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Response to onenote (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:35 PM

20. I doubt it

The recs just keep coming. A lot of people don't bother to read through a thread before reccing or replying.

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Response to onenote (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:48 PM

23. No, and unfortunately, it is a pattern here at DU. Fire, Ready, Aim. (nt)

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Response to SlimJimmy (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:32 PM

27. If it were me

I'd edit, then delete, the OP.

It's a hit and run.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #27)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:59 PM

30. That would be a good idea. (nt)

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 07:04 PM

31. K & R

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 08:20 PM

32. even though it's old and debunked? ;) n/t

 

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 09:26 PM

33. 2 articles from March 2 2011 on same topic

 

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Response to Dragonbreathp9d (Original post)

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:01 PM

34. Kick!

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