Is Romney's Campaign Over IF...

[berni_mccoy]

Romney had an affair with one of his maids?

First the rumor started with Drudge freaking out over Gloria Allred and the story got reported here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220526/Republicans-bracing-October-surprise-Gloria-Allred-prepares-Romney-revelation.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Then there was this tidbit revealed:

http://partners.mediatakeout.com/59124/explosive-breaking-news-mitt-romney-s-maid-is-dishing-dirt-and-if-what-she-s-saying-is-true-it-may-be-a-wrap-for-the-campaign.html

Media Takeout is owned and operated by a former corporate lawyer and he probably knows Allred.

Media Takeout indicates the news will break tomorrow. I suspect it will be in the morning and the scandal will be full swing before the debate.

If true, if a credible story is broken of a past made having an indiscrete affair with Mr. Romney, does that indeed end his campaign?

[Politicalboi]

1. Hoping this IS true

[berni_mccoy]

4. This one has the ring of truth to it.

Something tells me it is.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

103. what hit me was his comment during the repuke debate..."I can't

hire an illegal, I'm running for prez"

If it is an illegal maid, maybe it was when he was gov of MA?

[Sedona]

2. One of Robme's maids called the Stephanie Miller show some time ago

let's just say she wasn't a big fan.

Lazy, entitled, idle rich.

[Raine1967]

75. I remember that call.

I'd like to listen to it again.

I remember wishing at the time that more people should have picked up on her story.

[quinnox]

3. now your talkin'

An affair would be curtains for the Mittster methinks.

[Junior_Beauchamp]

24. too little too late

I think most Americans will be too suspicious of the timing of this story, and will question it's veracity. Mitty Bitty will deny it and file a lawsuit that will put it in the courts and kill the issue.

[factsarenotfair]

36. You might be right--the timing of the Schwarzenegger "Gropegate" scandal backfired. n/t

That was just before the Gray Davis recall election and apparently some voters thought the timing was too political.

[coalition_unwilling]

93. *SIGH* - Those voters failed to pay any attention to the details of the specific

allegations made against the Gropenator and their specific context. None of the specific allegations was ever refuted EVER!

The Gropenator years will be studied in years to come as some of the most disastrous in California's history. Schwarze-Nazi completely fucked this state up and it has yet to recover.

[factsarenotfair]

118. I know.

Somehow the Republicans convinced a lot of people, including some liberals, that Davis was a liar. It was so tragic.

[grasswire]

63. welcome to DU

Your concern is noted.

[malaise]

67. But not by

malaise

[Marr]

97. D'yer really think that?

lmao

[SammyWinstonJack]

82. Well it certainly was for John Edwards...but then he was a Democratic candidate.......

repukes can get away with affairs while running for and serving in public office.

[karynnj]

90. I would use the Edwards example in the opposite way

When the rumors started in 2007, they didn't get a lot of attention, then were denied and they moved almost no one to drop Edwards. There are only 19 days until the election. The idea that this could surface and have sufficient proof is unlikely. In addition, if this were in the past, the example could be Clinton and Genefer Flowers. That story did not hurt.

The other thing is that this could be completely untrue.

The fact is that affairs hurt Gary Hart and the SC Republican governor. They hurt Edwards only after it was proven that he had a baby and hid his mistress for months while running for President. His wife had cancer and he lied to her on the extent of the relationship even as she defended him. There is no way that he was held to a higher standard than anyone else. He was actually given the benefit of the doubt - as long as there was any.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

104. no way is it an affair - he seems much too asexual

[AzDar]

5. Too good to be true... but crossing my fingers, just in case.

[Mister Ed]

100. Might well be too good to be true. Makes me think of Dan Rather.

Someone, someone, passed forged documents to Rather and CBS News through a gullible intermediary. When Rather broke the story, a prominent right-wing blogger had proof of the forgery in a suspiciously short time. The story of the AWOL Bush was lost in the ensuing media uproar, and the election remained close enough to steal.

Now, I'm just trying to think like Karl Rove here. "Hmmm...nothing captures the public's attention like a sex scandal, eh? Suppose you pass some irresistibly juicy dirt to another journalist who's hungry for a scoop. Maybe get Drudge to fan the flames of expectation a bit...

"Then, once the allegations become public and the hysteria is at full pitch, wham! You release absolute, irrefutable proof that the accusations are false. Maybe the accuser declares that she was lying, or hired. The whole thing boomerangs against Obama. Every other aspect of the election is lost in the media whirlwind. The whole election is suddenly all about this despicable attempt to smear a good and virtuous family man, and whether the Obama campaign was behind it all, etc. etc. The polls shift in Romney's favor, and if Romney doesn't win outright, then at least it's close enough to steal..."

Still wearing my Rove hat, I'm thinking, "It's bold. all right, but it's dicey. Better make the preparations, though, just in case we're falling behind in the home stretch..."

Now, of course this is all sheer, wild speculation on my part. All I'm saying is, you gotta watch these neocon SOB's like a hawk. Expect skullduggery of the most vile sort from them, and you'll seldom be disappointed.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

111. Just the kind of thing Rove would do. nt

[Jamaal510]

6. I don't think so.

This man got caught chickenhawking, tax dodging, insulting another country, and strapping his dog on top of his car, and is still close behind in the polls. I think he'll survive this.

[Ned_Devine]

20. AND, he still hasn't released his tax returns

[all american girl]

27. It's always OK when a Republican does it

[SammyWinstonJack]

86. Yup! Just ask Edwards.

[Volaris]

33. I don't. He's supposed to be The Paragon of Moral Virtue, by way of being the GOP nominee...

If this is FOR REAL (and can be sourced and verified as such), this fucker is DONE. Obama will pull a MASSIVE swing state win, and could well flip some currently GOP-leaning states (like MO), and even if he can't flip them in the ultimate equation, he will put a huge fucking dent in them for the next set of Mid-Terms.
If he had an affair, not a self-professed Evengelical in the country would be caught dead voting for him. They will stay home, and this misdeed will swing the undecideds in Obama's favor. Again, IF THIS IS REAL, he's done.

"...chickenhawking, tax dodging, insulting another country, and strapping his dog on top of his car, ...." is every bit "par for the course" as far as the Media is concerned, but an AFFAIR? That''s some scandalous shit right there; THAT goes on the Front Page (above the fold) and they WILL run with it. So much so that we should just change their title from The MSM, to The National Wake. (refering to Vultures)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

105. I don't know -- what about NOOT?

[Volaris]

107. Newt isn't the GOP Presidential Nominee...

and the ONLY group of people in the National Wake who still give him ANY credibility is FauxNoose.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

117. He's not? Doesn't matter anyway, there will be no sex scandal. Romney looks asexual to me

[NYC Liberal]

85. Yes, but this is America. You can get away with murder, but a sex scandal will kill you.

[stevenleser]

99. LOL, sad but true. nt

[RedSpartan]

7. I agree this is likely too good to be true.

The guy has been running for six years. It would have come out by now -- especially during the primaries.

[OldDem2012]

17. Mitt's never been this close to the Presidency either. nt.

[michello]

8. MediaTakeOut!??

They are the worst! Please, Please, do not take anything from them seriously. I mean just read some of their articles. It's like the writings of a 2nd grader. They'll make a fool of you, just saying....

[mzmolly]

26. I agree that Drudge and MTO are not the most credible

of sources, but one never knows...

Welcome.

[michello]

45. Thank You!

[PCIntern]

46. You joined DU just to tell us this!! Thank you!!

Welcome! Enjoy your stay here!

[michello]

55. Um, what are you talking about?

Go read the shit that's on MTO before you tell me to enjoy my stay, ok..

[PCIntern]

66. What lies are on there?

Please be specific.
Enquiring minds want to know!

[HangOnKids]

65. Thanks PC

[Son of Gob]

87. Join date is 2010, all 11 posts in the last 90 days

It's a safe bet he or she has enjoyed their stay here before.

[malaise]

68. Enjoy your stay

and let me know our favorite flowers.

Looks like you're really worried.

[LisaL]

9. Whatever it is, I hope theire is proof.

Otherwise it's just gossip.

[RomneyLies]

10. IOKIYAR

Won't have any effect. Sex scandals take down Democratic governors in New Jersey and New York or Democratic presidential candidates.

The only sex scandals that take down any Republicans are related to homosexuality.

[meow2u3]

64. Maybe Rmoney is a closet case

I wouldn't be surprised

[karynnj]

95. NJ's governor (McGreevey) USED the fact that he was gay to leave

He actually was linked to a fair amount of corruption that had nothing to do with his sexual orientation.

There was some talk of scandal around Corzine and a girl friend, but the problem was a conflict of interest as she negotiated with the state on union contracts. This never reached all that many people's concern.

[hootinholler]

101. Larry Craig nt

[reflection]

11. No.

He could eat the heads off live puppies, while simultaneously performing an abortion and quoting verses from the Necronomicon, and 45% of the country would still vote for the benighted cretin.

[chowder66]

61. Those that are in his camp...most definately. nt

[Matariki]

12. I have very little faith that ANYTHING Romney has done will hurt his chances

I suspect that he could be proven to head a child sex ring and the polls would still come back in the 50% range.

Seriously, I'm running possible scandals through my mind trying to imagine one that would turn people on him. If sending US jobs to China & hiding money in offshore accounts to avoid taxes isn't doing it, I just can't imagine a sex scandal is going to hurt him one bit.

[Turborama]

116. How about a snuff movie

With him staring in the lead role as a pedophile necrophiliac?

It'd probably have to be that bad.

[immoderate]

13. Republicans will deny and compartmentalize. They hate the negro fellow...

And now that they own the voting machines...


--imm

[warrior1]

14. what if there is another romney kid running around?

[tarheelsunc]

15. Hope this is true, his "family values" base would be outrged

Remember... a scandal like this is the only reason Herman Cain isn't the Republican nominee.

[reformist2]

16. If she was an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, then this campaign is O-V-E-R.

Super-duper Romney-implosion if he made her "self-deport."

[teddy51]

18. I think he would just lie his way out of it, like he does everything else. He is a pathetic

human being, if he really is human.

[randome]

19. And this would be credible because...?

[loyalsister]

108. I think the excitement is premature

Alerred didn't confirm it.

[onenote]

21. If its "he said, she said" then no it won't.

Just as with Herman Cain, there will have to be more.

[rainlillie]

22. It seems only Democrats are hurt by affairs...

[Rosa Luxemburg]

96. Republicans are allowed to have affairs, chase Pages and pick up men in bathrooms

.....and wear diapers

[Guitarzz]

23. More Likely He Was Porking The Pool Boy.

[glacierbay]

34. More likely he orchestrated the death of Jimmy Hoffa and helped dispose of the body.

See how stupid that sounds?
I've got a lot more important things to do, like help getting my Pres. re-elected and posts like yours don't help at all.

[ErikJ]

102. LOL!

[Glimmer of Hope]

25. He just seems so non-sexual to me. I can't imagine this scenario.

[LisaL]

29. How do you think he managed to get five kids?

But, personally, I don't think this rumor is about an affair.

[Sedona]

80. Through strategically placed openings in the magic underwear

nt

[randome]

28. This is getting to be absolutely ridiculous.

The old plaintive "we're so afraid that we hope a hint of immorality will seal the deal for us".

We need to stop these threads that show us as cowering under the blankets hoping Magical Santa will save us.

The only things that will re-elect Obama are the issues and the votes.

[LisaL]

30. We aren't the ones coming up with the supposed October surprise, are we?

So WTF do you want us to do? Not discuss it?

[randome]

32. Why discuss rumors? Especially magic rumors?

Our time is better spent focusing on issues and votes.

[rainlillie]

37. Why not?

[randome]

42. It makes us look weak. Longing for some magical rumor to be true.

Issues. Votes.

[rainlillie]

47. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Not a big deal IMO.

[randome]

50. Agreed.

But too many threads on this subject makes us look desperate and emboldens the Republicans. We don't want them emboldened. We want them sick at heart.

[rainlillie]

53. I don't give a damn what republicans think. I seriously doubt that the folks who are working

their asses off to get the President re-elected think they can stop working now, because there's a rumor about Mitt. Read the comments most people are making jokes about this.

[glacierbay]

57. I made a joke

and I was accused of being a possible Rmoney supporter because I made a joke.

[morningfog]

74. No emboldening of repugs to any relevant degree is had by anything posted on DU.

[michello]

51. Right On!

[glacierbay]

40. Spot on.

this shit makes us look desperate, I would rather focus on realistic issues that will get Pres. Obama re-elected.

[rainlillie]

49. I agree, who the hell cares! No one from the Obama campaign is out there pushing this.

[rainlillie]

35. Hey, I'm not afraid.. BUT

If there is some evidence of Romney's wrongdoing be it morally or illegally it should be put out there. Not like if the shoe were on the other foot, the other side wouldn't do the same. Seems most folks here are not convinced that whatever it is is, it's a game changer, neither am I.

[randome]

38. Until it IS put out there, we look weak by longing for something to taint Romney.

Issues. Votes.

[rainlillie]

43. I disgaree, no one here is digging up the dirt, folks are just discussing it , some are even having

fun with it.

[randome]

48. Except this is the 3rd or 4th thread on the subject.

Which, again, implies that we are longing for a new 'Fitzmas'. Which, again, makes us look weak.

It's getting tiresome. I no more want to see threads about an 'October Surprise' than I do about whether or not the Easter Bunny is real.

Issues. Votes.

[malaise]

69. How many threads do ReTHUGs have on Libya or Iran

Those are worse than rumors - they are LIES but some are even here on DU.

[michello]

54. But that website is not crediable though.

I would never take anything MTO say as crediable. It's a rag, gossip, messy-ass website.

[morningfog]

72. LOL! Walk and chew gum.

Or, register and vote AND go in for the kill. Spread the rumors until mitt is forced to deny it.

[trailmonkee]

31. i actually heard it was his butler....

Sorry, just can't help myself with this rumor stuff

[PCIntern]

39. Didn't I post something like this a few hrs ago?

Maybe I know something...maybe I don't.

Stay tuned...

[Liberalynn]

81. I'm hoping you know something

and I will stay tuned.

I'm not saying we need it to win. I just love to see right wing, religious nut repukes, get exposed for the lying cheating snake in the grass hypocrites they are.

[tarheelsunc]

73. HAHAHA! I get tired of her plastic face and I only see her on TV from time to time

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. What, this is a Gary Hart moment?

[justiceischeap]

52. If there is something, if it's a sexual something, the only minds that may change

are women. And I mean in a big way that may matter. Those women that supposedly defected from Pres. Obama after the first debate, may flow back if this is true.

Mostly though, I think it's Matt Drudge laughing at the Dems that are so hopeful for this. It makes us look like we can't win this election without some sort of scandal.

[malaise]

56. WilLIARd Schwarzenegger??

[Jack Rabbit]

58. IOKIYAR

I can just hear the GOP establishment thinking out loud now . . .

Mitt may be a Mormon adulterer, which has got to make him the ultimate family values hypocrite, but it's still better a ni..., ni..., ni...

(not quite able to say it, eh, Senator?).

[nc4bo]

59. I'm genuinely curious.

But know dang on good and well it won't stop any of us from laying down our vote for our POTUS or helping others do the same.

This rumoring is like watching an entertaining 5 minute cartoon during an intermission.

Nothing wrong with being curious and having some of this ready while we watch and wait for something or nothing at all.

[Liberalynn]

79. +1

[Doctor_J]

60. HOw is this worse than all of his other crimes?

Sensata, cayman Islands, Switzerland, Bain, no tax returns, draft dodging,... This won't do anything, even though it's probably true.

[bigtree]

62. yes

[tblue37]

70. IOKIYAR. It's ALWAYS OKIYAR! nt

[Quixote1818]

71. I would rather beat him without this but better to not to take any chances. nt

[Tribetime]

76. thats the only thing pukes penalize for...not for wars, denying health ins,

aiding peolpe in poverty....etc.

[Tribetime]

77. it's over if he had an affair with ANDY DICK

[David Zephyr]

78. berni_mccoy, this could also be a trap. Thank you for posting this.

Thank you for finding this and posting it. This is the first I've heard of this.

The Drudge factor makes me uneasy as this coud be a very ugly trap and we all have to be careful here. The collective we do not want pull a Mitt Romney/Libya mis-step.

Still, the fact that Allred will not deny the story is interesting.

I'm waiting to see how this develops and to see who is really behind the story.

To answer the question you posed, we will win with or without this story.

[jimlup]

83. Even if true the MSM will ignore it...

They want a horse race and many of their producers/funders are in Mitt's back pocket. Don't count on the MSM to do anything at all even if this is absolutely true.

[mnhtnbb]

84. And she got preggers and Romney paid for the abortion. Ya think?

[Lex]

88. Well now

wouldn't that be something. Whoa.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

89. If the rumors are true, it may have nothing to do with sex

Allred could be representing a maid who had no papers to work in this country and Romney hired her knowing this. Or it may involve an unfair firing or gender discrimination. Frankly I wish I wasn't interested in this type of rumor, but since the media won't do their job of nailing Romney for failing to come up with a credible reason for not producing his tax returns or for going after him for the various other shenanigans from his past, I'll salute any person who can put him on the hotseat for any reason.

[Catherine Vincent]

91. Even if he did have some type of affair

It's too little too late, imo.

[loyalsister]

113. I agree

Primary campaigns may end. But when the real election comes around and candidates are on the ballots, the campaigns do not "end." Candidates will always work to rehabilitate their campaigns. Regardless of what comes up, we should be prepared for it to work and keep moving relentlessly ahead.

[L0oniX]

92. BREAKING: Romney caught having affair with Utah woman

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/minneapolis-mn/T78S9UQG6GPBU0I9B

heh

[amborin]

94. Romney and Pam?

video here

my laptop's audio not working now do don't know

[Marr]

98. Yes. The media would try to dismiss it, but it would end Romney's campaign.

[loyalsister]

115. The media will dismiss it if he admits it and tries to spin it and sums it up with a last word.

The story will only be hugely effective if he tries to defend it.

It it is, I would expect him to try to end the story the same way other republicans have. It's true, I have prayed about it, Ann forgave me.

[SweetieD]

106. MTO is BS. That site literally just makes up stuff.

[andym]

109. All kinds of improper conduct rumors were made against the "Governator"

before the recall election in CA that elected him. But this was CA, and it didn't matter. Not sure what will happen on a national level.
It would definitely hurt Romney with pro-family christians. But he would probably ask for forgiveness.

Also, "Citizen Kane" comes to mind, but people are not as prudish as they were depicted to be a 100 years ago.

However, all in all, bad publicity for Romney should hurt him in a close election.

It would reinforce his image as a liar/cheater....

[LisaL]

110. Like you said, that was in CA.

[Utah_liberal]

112. I doubt Romney had an affair

Although I despise Mitt, He's way too good of a Mormon to be having an affair. As an ex Mormon, I'd put money on it Ann is the only person he has ever laid in his life. The law of chastity is a really big deal in the Mormon faith. Did he screw with people in other ways? Absolutely! But whatever this surprise is, I doubt it to be sexual. That would be great if I was wrong though.

[eridani]

114. Nope. Not as long as he stays white n/t

[yellowcanine]

119. If anyone had anything real they would release it, not announce they are GOING to release

it. Something very Trumpy about all of this. A maid "dishing dirt" could be anything or it could be nothing.

[cbdo2007]

120. Right....what are they waiting for at this point? Just do it already!

[cbdo2007]

121. Any more news on this?? If they've got this it would be great to release it before the debate.