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The Salt Lake City Tribune Has Announced Their Endorsement... (Original Post) JaneyVee Oct 2012 OP
LOL! n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #1
Now that's going to leave a mark. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2012 #2
those were my thoughts exactly. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2012 #36
Read the editorial.........NO spoilers. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #3
There is one spoiler... DreamGypsy Oct 2012 #17
Beautiful! timber84 Oct 2012 #4
"Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, pinto Oct 2012 #5
Wow...the two comments are good, too...knr joeybee12 Oct 2012 #6
fantastic.. used to deliver the Tribune as my first "job" oldhippydude Oct 2012 #7
Does Salt Lake have ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #18
Yes, it does! Momgonepostal Oct 2012 #21
yes see the other commment oldhippydude Oct 2012 #25
Now, that's going to cost them some advertisers, I imagine. MineralMan Oct 2012 #8
Keep on dreaming, dreamer! lol Momgonepostal Oct 2012 #23
Wow. That must hurt, if Romney can't slip one by the fine people of SLC Fresh_Start Oct 2012 #9
Shocking so very shocking who they are endorsing kimbutgar Oct 2012 #10
KNR Lucinda Oct 2012 #11
Ouch. ellisonz Oct 2012 #12
The final two paragraphs Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #13
Now that is a smackdown hifiguy Oct 2012 #14
nice! mshasta Oct 2012 #15
Kicked and recommended for the Salt Lake City Tribune's respect for political integrity. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #16
Well, this made my day. n/t ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #19
Wow. That is a real surprise. closeupready Oct 2012 #20
I don' think it's integrity. I think is rational behavior musiclawyer Oct 2012 #22
LOL!! +10000 Segami Oct 2012 #24
Epic fail for Rmoney!!!!! Initech Oct 2012 #26
Ouch! HopeHoops Oct 2012 #27
Mega Ouch !! zellie Oct 2012 #28
BRAVO Salt Lake City Tribune!! eyewall Oct 2012 #29
Beautifully stated. nolabear Oct 2012 #30
Amazing,Miraculous Stewland Oct 2012 #31
To be fair, the Trib has been pretty liberal over the years EvolveOrConvolve Oct 2012 #32
Weeeelll doggies, that's gonna sting! SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #33
All is not well in the Mormon Capitol... Historic NY Oct 2012 #34
Former Salt Lake City Mayor, Rocky Anderson, doesn't even know Robmney anymore upi402 Oct 2012 #35
Interesting comment I saw flygal Oct 2012 #37
What do you expect from some left wing rag from a solid blue state. Oh wait! N/t AnnieK401 Oct 2012 #38
k&r... spanone Oct 2012 #39
They're going to need police protection at that newspaper office. Zalatix Oct 2012 #40
Worth repeating... peace frog Oct 2012 #41
Wooooodamnwhoooo! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #42
your right it is a good endorsement. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #43
This is powerful... femrap Oct 2012 #44
They endorsed Obama in 2008 as well. Jim Lane Oct 2012 #45
WHAT? The Trib? Joke right? defacto7 Oct 2012 #46
A good sign Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #47

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
17. There is one spoiler...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:00 PM
Oct 2012

IMHO.

On Foreign Policy the Tribune editorial board starts out fine:

Obama’s foreign policy record is perhaps his strongest suit, especially compared to Romney’s bellicose posture toward Russia and China and his inflammatory rhetoric regarding Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Obama’s measured reliance on tough economic embargoes to bring Iran to heel, and his equally measured disengagement from the war in Afghanistan, are examples of a nuanced approach to international affairs.


But then they fall for the Republican line:

The glaring exception, still unfolding, was the administration’s failure to protect the lives of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, and to quickly come clean about it.


Obama doesn't pander or posture. He gathers the facts, then acts.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
5. "Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words,
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

any words, they would trade their votes to hear."

<snip>

"Therefore, our endorsement must go to the incumbent, a competent leader who, against tough odds, has guided the country through catastrophe and set a course that, while rocky, is pointing toward a brighter day. The president has earned a second term. Romney, in whatever guise, does not deserve a first."

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
7. fantastic.. used to deliver the Tribune as my first "job"
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:34 PM
Oct 2012

not that we stand a snow balls chance in hell in Utah... but well presented endorsement

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Does Salt Lake have ...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:00 PM
Oct 2012

more than one daily?

From the comments, there seems to be a lack of wingnut blather.

Momgonepostal

(2,872 posts)
21. Yes, it does!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:13 PM
Oct 2012

The Deseret News is more likely to endorse Romney, if it hasn't already.

Just to give some perspective, some of my friends, who are CA Mormons and Republicans, got the Tribune when they moved to Utah because they thought it was more balanced. The Deseret News is pretty right-wing.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
25. yes see the other commment
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:31 PM
Oct 2012

the Deseret News was the evening paper.. was the "church" mouthpeice.. the Trib not so much...

during my youth i actually lived in southern Idaho.. the papers were brought in from SLC every morning at 5 am.. i would deliver them before school..

at that point in time there was only one local tv station.. you had to get cable to get all the big 3.. around 5 bucks a month (not evryone had cable)...

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
8. Now, that's going to cost them some advertisers, I imagine.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:35 PM
Oct 2012

Good job!

Now, if the Deseret News would just do the same thing....

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
9. Wow. That must hurt, if Romney can't slip one by the fine people of SLC
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:36 PM
Oct 2012

Thank you editorial staff.
Thank you very much for saying what had to be said.

kimbutgar

(21,104 posts)
10. Shocking so very shocking who they are endorsing
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:37 PM
Oct 2012

Mormon state USA is endorsing the President. I am so shocked I feel faint......from giddiness!

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
13. The final two paragraphs
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012


In considering which candidate to endorse, The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board had hoped that Romney would exhibit the same talents for organization, pragmatic problem-solving and inspired leadership that he displayed here more than a decade ago. Instead, we have watched him morph into a friend of the far right, then tack toward the center with breathtaking aplomb. Through a pair of presidential debates, Romney’s domestic agenda remains bereft of detail and worthy of mistrust.

Therefore, our endorsement must go to the incumbent, a competent leader who, against tough odds, has guided the country through catastrophe and set a course that, while rocky, is pointing toward a brighter day. The president has earned a second term. Romney, in whatever guise, does not deserve a first.

Uncle Joe

(58,336 posts)
16. Kicked and recommended for the Salt Lake City Tribune's respect for political integrity.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 02:54 PM
Oct 2012

Thanks for the thread, JaneyVee.

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
22. I don' think it's integrity. I think is rational behavior
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 03:14 PM
Oct 2012

Many newspaters you would think go red understand very well that their very existence is tethered to a strong middle class that will pay for subsciptions and have enough money to own a new computer someday to click ads. The death of the middle classs is the death of newspapers--even the e-versions. Their little fiefdoms are in jeopardy with a Romeny presidency. Like most car dealers in America, local newspaper editors who used to votre red are now voting blue. They can't take a great recession 2.0 which would follow Romney only.

eyewall

(674 posts)
29. BRAVO Salt Lake City Tribune!!
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:38 PM
Oct 2012

That took real courage, and conviction... and, integrity, common sense, objectivity, perception, intelligence, decency, awareness, concern, comprehension, tolerance, logic, compassion, critical thinking, and dozens of other positive spiritual and intellectual attributes.

I applaud you for recognizing the difference between a party's pandering and an incumbent's leadership. It had to be said and the Tribune has the courage to say it, the President DESERVES a second term.

 

Stewland

(163 posts)
31. Amazing,Miraculous
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:23 PM
Oct 2012

Considering the place of the source and the fact that Utah is bright red. I am heartened to see that maybe some Mormons are decent after all. If Romney is the only face of Mormonism then I expect that few people would want to join. I do not subscribe to any religion and have lived as a nonMormon in Mormon territory. I did not find many democrats among them. Gradually some members are coming to their senses. They still are along with the Catholic Church and many evangelicals a source of hate towards GLBT people.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
32. To be fair, the Trib has been pretty liberal over the years
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:44 PM
Oct 2012

Especially in relationship to the rest of the state.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
35. Former Salt Lake City Mayor, Rocky Anderson, doesn't even know Robmney anymore
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:48 PM
Oct 2012

His Justice Party has some good planks.
Amy Goodman and Norman Goldman have him on and I like listening to him.

flygal

(3,231 posts)
37. Interesting comment I saw
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:25 AM
Oct 2012

This rounds out Romney's lack of support by those who know him and Ryan.

The People that know Romney and Ryan most aren't voting for them.

Massachusetts - Romney's home state - Voting for Obama/Biden
Wisconsin - Ryan's home/birth state - Voting for Obama/Biden
Michigan - Romney's birth state - Voting for Obama/Biden

On the other hand...

Illinois - Obama's home state - Voting for Obama/Biden
Hawaii - Obama's birth state - Voting for Obama/Biden
Delaware - Biden's home state - Voting for Obama/Biden
Pennsylvania - Biden's birth state - Voting for Obama/Biden

The last person to lose both home state and birth state and win the election was James Polk in 1844.

peace frog

(5,609 posts)
41. Worth repeating...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:59 AM
Oct 2012

"In considering which candidate to endorse, The Salt Lake Tribune editorial board had hoped that Romney would exhibit the same talents for organization, pragmatic problem solving and inspired leadership that he displayed here more than a decade ago. Instead, we have watched him morph into a friend of the far right, then tack toward the center with breathtaking aplomb. Through a pair of presidential debates, Romney’s domestic agenda remains bereft of detail and worthy of mistrust.

Therefore, our endorsement must go to the incumbent, a competent leader who, against tough odds, has guided the country through catastrophe and set a course that, while rocky, is pointing toward a brighter day. The president has earned a second term. Romney, in whatever guise, does not deserve a first."



 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
45. They endorsed Obama in 2008 as well.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:42 PM
Oct 2012

In 2004, they endorsed Bush, so they're not an automatic Democratic endorsement.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
46. WHAT? The Trib? Joke right?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:47 AM
Oct 2012

Wait... I mean WHAT?

I'm not getting out enough...

or it's just a way for Mormondom to look balanced and "progressive".

Deseret = Romney
Trib = Obama

See... balance!

WHAT? I'm living in the Twilight Zone.
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