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How come nobody's talking about Obama's rebound in Nate Silver's forecast? (Original Post) craigmatic Oct 2012 OP
I thought he was back to that yesterday? BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #1
I wasn't on so I didn't see it if they did. It just seems to be gloom and doom on here today so I craigmatic Oct 2012 #4
I hear ya! BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #18
this is from late yesterday, he only updates once a day and its pretty late in the evening. nt Hamlette Oct 2012 #2
Doesn't fit the MSM's narrative? Fawke Em Oct 2012 #3
It's not fitting in with the Amazing Mittster Comeback Meme, what with all those poor pathetic souls catbyte Oct 2012 #5
This is good!!!!! skeewee08 Oct 2012 #6
Because Nate is a RW corporate shill hack89 Oct 2012 #7
The ONLY pollster we can trust is... which ever one he's currently doing best in. Curtland1015 Oct 2012 #11
LOL budkin Oct 2012 #12
How can people talk about him when they trash talked him for two days. former9thward Oct 2012 #8
This is DU.... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #17
Because it isn't skewed for "Todays Momentum Index" Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #9
Yes. Something more-or-less like this, but with more razzle-dazzle to hide it. nt patrice Oct 2012 #13
You just made me think of something BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #16
Maybe "pushback" isn't considered a valid & reliable statistical phenomenon. Perhaps the experts patrice Oct 2012 #10
Maybe subject matter experts are thinking about the difference between "Moneyball" and patrice Oct 2012 #14
It's just back to reality, IMHO. The dip was fake. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #15
Biggest change was the shift from register to likely polls Spike89 Oct 2012 #19
 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
4. I wasn't on so I didn't see it if they did. It just seems to be gloom and doom on here today so I
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:50 PM
Oct 2012

thought I'd spread some good news.

BumRushDaShow

(128,845 posts)
18. I hear ya!
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

Some of us are trying to focus on the electoral counts instead, but as I mentioned downthread - the same media swore to us that Santorum was on his way to victory, so their sooth-saying should be taken with a whole vat of salt.

catbyte

(34,373 posts)
5. It's not fitting in with the Amazing Mittster Comeback Meme, what with all those poor pathetic souls
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:51 PM
Oct 2012

like the entire Fox-PAC lineup and Chuckie Todd & David Gregory angling to be appointed Press Secretary in a Romney Administration. Yuck. I threw up a little in my mouth just writing that.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. Because Nate is a RW corporate shill
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oct 2012

and only diehard republicans support him.

Or so I was told this morning on another thread.

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
11. The ONLY pollster we can trust is... which ever one he's currently doing best in.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

That one, whicher it is, is the only one I trust! The rest are in the GOP'd pocket!

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
8. How can people talk about him when they trash talked him for two days.
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:57 PM
Oct 2012

On DU I saw him called "a corporate whore" and "just another liar". http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251137921

How can you be a lying corporate whore one day and be credible the next?

BumRushDaShow

(128,845 posts)
16. You just made me think of something
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:07 PM
Oct 2012

that I had forgotten. These same media are the ones who, repectively, predicted that Batshit BachKKKman, Hermit Cain, Newt Getrich, and finally Rick Sanitarium were all going to win.

'Nuff said.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
10. Maybe "pushback" isn't considered a valid & reliable statistical phenomenon. Perhaps the experts
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 02:58 PM
Oct 2012

consider it to be as much of an echo (an evoked property) as the polls that give it a starting point (e.g. Gravis Marketing).

Maybe subject matter experts do not consider evoked properties to be the same thing as emergent properties, because one is more single-point intentional/top-down and the other is more multi-intentional/bottom-up.

Just speculating here.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
19. Biggest change was the shift from register to likely polls
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

It was inevitable that Obama was going to "drop" once the polls shifted to likely voters. So-called likely voters are simply registered voters with a track record of voting. Some definitions of "likely" ensure that no youth (must haved in a high % of last 8 years elections), or ignore key changes in electorate (black voters are still likely to be engaged, even if they may not vote as heavily in other elections). Not all likely voter screens are equally bad, but they all model themselves on the past, not whether someone is likely to actually vote this year.

Combine that natural shift in polls with the timing of the 1st debate and it was pretty much a slam dunk that Romney would "surge" even though he did nothing of the sort.

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