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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 02:43 PM Jan 2012

School puts troubled kids in 'scream room'

MIDDLETOWN, Conn. -- Parents, many of whom have children at Farm Hill Elementary School in Middletown, Conn., are outraged about the way the school is dealing with misbehaving students.

Teachers and staff put the children, including those with special needs, in what parents call "scream rooms."

"My 1st grader is there and is not learning because there are so many behavioral problems at that school,” Tricia Belin said.

One parent described the rooms as, “scream closets, where kids bang their heads off of concrete walls.”

“The building custodians had to go in and clean blood off the walls and clean urination off the floors,” the parent said.

More: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/11/10113042-school-puts-troubled-kids-in-scream-room

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School puts troubled kids in 'scream room' (Original Post) Playinghardball Jan 2012 OP
It almost seems like the school system is becoming the new "sanatorium". Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #1
Yes, they have finally found a way to bring the institutions into community service. They need to jwirr Jan 2012 #12
WHAT!??!!? Neoma Jan 2012 #2
in the old days they were screened and placed in small classes to learn how roguevalley Jan 2012 #9
+100 Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #24
We called that "the locker room" - well, mostly because of the wedgies. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #3
We expect our schools to take care of and educate every kid, hedgehog Jan 2012 #4
This may not be true in your school system but each special ed student has government money jwirr Jan 2012 #13
The cells need more padding. FarCenter Jan 2012 #5
They suck off the cream of the crop and tax our money for Charter Schools and this is what is left. RC Jan 2012 #6
I don't know Middletown, CT personally, but here are the demographics. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #7
An acquaintance of mine used to be a first grade teacher. She quit because she had to have special Cleita Jan 2012 #8
mainstreaming is the culprit. I feel her pain. Until you have to do this with four or five of them roguevalley Jan 2012 #10
Seems like you've been down that slippery road.n/t Cleita Jan 2012 #16
yes and its lose-lose for eveeryone. roguevalley Jan 2012 #18
I can see why she quit. As a parent and a social worker for these kids I believe someone forgot to jwirr Jan 2012 #14
This wasn't a special needs classroom. Our school district, Cleita Jan 2012 #15
All the kids in one classroom is called mainstreaming and I have mixed feelings regarding that jwirr Jan 2012 #19
But shouldn't there be classroom nannies, if you will, who would look after those kids Cleita Jan 2012 #20
There should be and are in my state. As I said in my first post some one did not write an individual jwirr Jan 2012 #21
That makes sense. Cleita Jan 2012 #22
How did they get all the teachers out? nt Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #11
Why don't they just have one of those camera rooms like reality tv shows do? Initech Jan 2012 #17
OMG! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #23
Is that what we used to call "time out" rooms? mainer Jan 2012 #25
 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
1. It almost seems like the school system is becoming the new "sanatorium".
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jan 2012

Hard to blame the school when they are most likely not prepared for these type of cases. Most likely not funded for these type of special needs children.

Frustrating.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Yes, they have finally found a way to bring the institutions into community service. They need to
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jan 2012

be stopped.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
9. in the old days they were screened and placed in small classes to learn how
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jan 2012

to behave and learn in a controlled environment with expert teachers. This is the result of mainstreaming everyone into one class no matter what they are like and spending the money on other things. Don't blame the teachers. they aren't trained for this and spending your ENTIRE FREAKING DAY trying to manage one to FIVE kids like this at the expense of everyone else is also not teaching. Been there and freaking done that.

I got all the 'bad' boys and girls. God love them. God help us all.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
4. We expect our schools to take care of and educate every kid,
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 02:51 PM
Jan 2012

but we've been unwilling to give them the money to do this. It's not enough to set up a classroom for special needs kids because each kid has different special needs!

In addition to kids with physical special needs, we have to face the fact that the kids come from all sorts of homes with all kinds of different expectations. A kid coming from a home with a caretaker who hated school and distrusts any sort of government interference is not going to do as well as the kid who had someone who read to him or her every day and kept the television turned off!

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. This may not be true in your school system but each special ed student has government money
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 05:48 PM
Jan 2012

earmarked for his or her education beyond the school taxation programs. I think this school is misusing that money and the parents should ask that this money be taken out of the school budget so they can find better education for their children.

You know - start their own system. That is how we started bringing our children home to the community.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. They suck off the cream of the crop and tax our money for Charter Schools and this is what is left.
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jan 2012

Kansas City Mo. school system is not now accredited because of bad management and now at least some of some of the surrounding school systems will not take any of the kids because they suddenly want... surprise, surprise! More money from Kansas City!

Da'ell wit da kids, money whats more important here. Everyone knew last summer unaccreditation was coming and they wait till it happened to say they want more money to take these kids into their system?

More dumbing down of the coming generations.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. An acquaintance of mine used to be a first grade teacher. She quit because she had to have special
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 04:15 PM
Jan 2012

needs children in her classroom, including one kid who was psychotic and wanted to kill or hurt anything or anyone in the classroom. They did not give her extra help or tools to deal with these children. Because she spent all her time with those children, meeting their needs and keeping them from hurting themselves or others, she had no time to really teach the other children. She finally gave up in frustration and works at something else. I really don't know what to think of her decision because I'm neither a parent nor a teacher, but it seems to me that something needs to be done.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
10. mainstreaming is the culprit. I feel her pain. Until you have to do this with four or five of them
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 04:52 PM
Jan 2012

there sucking your life force out and you can't turn your back on them because they will stab you you haven't lived.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. I can see why she quit. As a parent and a social worker for these kids I believe someone forgot to
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jan 2012

do an individual service plan for that child. If they had there would have been a 1-1 who would have attended to him/her while the teacher did her job. The money of a 1-1 comes from each clients own social services programs. However, maybe this client was from a family that did not qualify for government programs. Who knows - there is probably much more to this story. Also many teachers who try out special needs classrooms find they are just not cut out for it. No shame in that - it is good that they cared enough to try.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. This wasn't a special needs classroom. Our school district,
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jan 2012

or the state, I'm not sure which, decided that all the kids should be together in the same classroom both special needs and ordinary kids. She had no choice, but there was no 1-1 or other aids to help out with these children. It was all up to her. I'm sure that if there had been, it would have made a big difference.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
19. All the kids in one classroom is called mainstreaming and I have mixed feelings regarding that
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jan 2012

practice. My own daughter would have no help in that kind of classroom as she has never advanced to talking or much further than a child who is one year old. However, I have also seen many of my clients advance from being in a mixed situation.

One of the biggest bonuses I have seen from this practice is that the other children learn to understand disabilities. Of course I come from a small rural area that once had country schools where everyone was in one school room and everyone learned to help each other.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
20. But shouldn't there be classroom nannies, if you will, who would look after those kids
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jan 2012

on a closer ratio or even 1-1 so the teacher could teach to the WHOLE class? I mean they could be in the class with other kids but the teacher also needs help it seems.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. There should be and are in my state. As I said in my first post some one did not write an individual
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:29 AM
Jan 2012

service plan which would have detailed how this child would be handled and if there was going to be help. In my state this is the job of a social services worker and/or the school social worker.

mainer

(12,018 posts)
25. Is that what we used to call "time out" rooms?
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jan 2012

When my kids were in pre-school, that's what they did with kids having tantrums. They were put in time out until they got themselves under control.

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