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hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:10 PM Oct 2012

Re sensata: beware the ratfuck technique of poisoning the well...

Everyone who is pushing the photo of the Chinese plant labeled as being in Il. is being taken in. The plant flying the Chinese flag above the US flag is in China.

I suspect it was planted by someone's ratfucking fucker to poison the well in regards to this story, which when the truth is told is damaging, but the flag photo is providing Rmoney some wiggle room to claim it's all bullshit.

I for one would rather tear them down with unimpeachable facts.

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Re sensata: beware the ratfuck technique of poisoning the well... (Original Post) hootinholler Oct 2012 OP
I was thinking the same thing. OhZone Oct 2012 #1
2 important things: cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #2
It's all over the intertubes hootinholler Oct 2012 #4
In the video, there is clearly a chinese flag being flown in Ill. FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #3
I think that's a part of the workers/protestors. nm nc4bo Oct 2012 #5
Most likely it's part of the protest display hootinholler Oct 2012 #6
What's photoshopped in is the American flag. yellerpup Oct 2012 #7
I don't know about that hootinholler Oct 2012 #8
No, I didn't mean it was in the video. yellerpup Oct 2012 #9
The same factory has a US flag flying in the video. hootinholler Oct 2012 #10
Must have missed that part of the video. yellerpup Oct 2012 #11
Totally agree - I told people to be careful. That picture should be deleted Indep2992 Oct 2012 #12
C&L has walked back the claim hootinholler Oct 2012 #17
K & R Wednesdays Oct 2012 #13
You are so right to be cautious pearl Oct 2012 #14
Right on madokie Oct 2012 #15
Read post under Sensata drip dtip drip re: video & personal stories. Astazia Oct 2012 #16

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
1. I was thinking the same thing.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:23 PM
Oct 2012

What we need to do is push the point of the outsourcing and stop forwarding the picture or reframe it as, would you like to see this here or something.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
2. 2 important things:
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:25 PM
Oct 2012

1) Some sort of source, if possible?

2) Please change "someone's bitch"... it's a worthwhile post and it would be a shame to e hidden for that.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
4. It's all over the intertubes
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:38 PM
Oct 2012

Here's one claim it was a US factory flying the chinese flag http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/13/1143996/-The-Sansata-Story-Could-Destroy-Romney

There's a photo all over FB labeled as the plant being in the US. It's obviously a chinese plant, no plant in the US would have its name in chinese on the sign, no factory being closed would put up new signage in chinese as shown in the photo.

http://occupyamerica.crooksandliars.com/diane-sweet/chinese-flag-flying-freeport-illinois C&L is even sucked in on this one.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
3. In the video, there is clearly a chinese flag being flown in Ill.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:36 PM
Oct 2012

It is not the image being shown here but it is in the video. The flag is flown near a fence which the workers have used to hang protest signs. It is around 1:11 The workers also complained dthat the American flag was removed, for a time, while the Chinese workers were being trained

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hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
6. Most likely it's part of the protest display
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

It's clear that one is not being flown by the factory on their flagpole, which is what the bullshit claim is.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
9. No, I didn't mean it was in the video.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:28 PM
Oct 2012

The photo in the OP is definitely of a Chinese factory in China. I can't feature why the Chinese would be flying an American flag unless they were expecting official visitors from the US. That's what seemed strange to me.

On edit: Clarification: referencing the top photo in the article at the link, not in the OP

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
10. The same factory has a US flag flying in the video.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:31 PM
Oct 2012

THe photo going around the intertubes seems to be a frame grab.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
11. Must have missed that part of the video.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

It was very moving and hopefully very effective way to get the word out about Rmoney. This could be IT for his demise. Hope so.

 

Indep2992

(119 posts)
12. Totally agree - I told people to be careful. That picture should be deleted
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:37 PM
Oct 2012

DELETE! Or at least correct the post by editing

The stuff on the thread I started is true, though. So I doubt it would kill the story

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
17. C&L has walked back the claim
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

As to killing the story, do you remember the TANG story Dan Rather did?

pearl

(1,302 posts)
14. You are so right to be cautious
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:31 AM
Oct 2012

I've been thinking this since it started trending yesterday. It is enough to focus on the plant closing and leave the flag story alone.
This is the profile of a Karl Rove operation; insert something into an otherwise solid story and take everybody on a wild ride.
He did destroy Dan Rathers career in the same way. The story was true but that memo was slipped in there. And enough with all the demands that the dems jump willey nilley into the flag story.

Astazia

(262 posts)
16. Read post under Sensata drip dtip drip re: video & personal stories.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:41 AM
Oct 2012

It is true. My post doesn't have link but does have facts from employees who were let go or laid off. One woman was right about to retire & they screwed her over after decades. Read my post & help everyone with link to video posted yesterday.

Thanks

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