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kpete

(71,979 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:15 AM Oct 2012

The Moment Our VP Made Me & Mr. Pete-Beam With Pride

BIDEN: And I love my friend here. I — I’m not allowed to show letters but go on our website, he sent me two letters saying, “By the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of Wisconsin?” We sent millions of dollars. You know…

RADDATZ: You did ask for stimulus money, correct?

BIDEN: Sure he did. By the way…

RYAN: On two occasions we — we — we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. That’s what we do. We do that for all constituents who are…

(CROSSTALK) BIDEN: I love that. I love that. This was such a bad program and he writes me a letter saying — writes the Department of Energy a letter saying, “The reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs.” His words. And now he’s sitting here looking at me.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/10/12/1002571/biden-slams-ryan-over-his-past-support-for-the-clean-energy-stimulus/

(mr. pete is an independent btw)
(i should have said: Mr. Peter & I?)

UPDATE:
LETTERS HERE:
http://secure.assets.bostatic.com/pdfs/truth-team/Ryan_4stimulusletters_press.pdf

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The Moment Our VP Made Me & Mr. Pete-Beam With Pride (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
Yeah. NOLALady Oct 2012 #1
yes very cool. nm rhett o rick Oct 2012 #2
"this is a bunch of stuff" Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #3
He almost called Lyin Ryan a liar at least once ... Myrina Oct 2012 #7
Yes! He got as far as, "I wish you would just tell..." and my mind filled in "the truth" while gkhouston Oct 2012 #14
Or BFD! Cha Oct 2012 #16
Oh YEAH! ocd liberal Oct 2012 #4
This was fantastic. He made Ryan say "it creates jobs". AllyCat Oct 2012 #5
"Mr. Pete and me" is the correct formulation. SheilaT Oct 2012 #6
I knew i would kpete Oct 2012 #10
Thanks, I liked your lesson and I'm sure some of our friends here on DU appreciated the explanation. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #11
You would if you were speaking Jamaican patois Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #12
Well, I strongly suspect that the OP wasn't speaking SheilaT Oct 2012 #15
I had an open invitation to watch the debate with a group of democrats in another city. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #8
kick. grantcart Oct 2012 #9
"Mr. Peter & I" in this context would have been incorrect Shampoobra Oct 2012 #13

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
7. He almost called Lyin Ryan a liar at least once ...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:52 PM
Oct 2012

... i thought maybe it was on purpose, in that 'Lunchpail Joe' kinda way ... it was a rebuttal to one of Lyin's many lies, and Joe said something like "I wish they'd stop ly ... they'd show more candor" ... it was pretty hilarious because you KNOW the word LIAR was right there waiting to jump out ...


gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
14. Yes! He got as far as, "I wish you would just tell..." and my mind filled in "the truth" while
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:36 PM
Oct 2012

he backtracked and said something about showing more candor.

AllyCat

(16,174 posts)
5. This was fantastic. He made Ryan say "it creates jobs".
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:33 PM
Oct 2012

He got Ryan to make the point that every thinking American already knows. And he showed how it's okay for the GOP to do this, but then not okay if the Dems do it.

Masterful in my estimation.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
6. "Mr. Pete and me" is the correct formulation.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:47 PM
Oct 2012

Leave Mr. Pete out of it.

Would you say, "It made I beam with pride?" I hope not. You'd say, "It made me beam with pride."

The way to tell the correct pronoun to use in a compound formulation like that, is to leave the other person out. You will always get it correct.

People do not go around saying things like, "Me went to the grocery store yesterday", although they will say "Tom and me went to the grocery store yesterday," and so on.

Exiting grammar witch mode.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
11. Thanks, I liked your lesson and I'm sure some of our friends here on DU appreciated the explanation.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:08 PM
Oct 2012

Sometimes it hard to remember 7th grade English lessons.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
8. I had an open invitation to watch the debate with a group of democrats in another city.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:55 PM
Oct 2012

I turned it down because I didn't want to risk another Obama style debate flop and end up wanting to flush my head in a toilet. But Biden was spectacular, Biden mastered Ryan and contested every single bit of bullshit that Ryan threw out, contested them with verifiable facts. I read that President Obama watched the debate, I hope that the President saw in stark contrast where he failed to contest Romney's bullshit.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
13. "Mr. Peter & I" in this context would have been incorrect
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:28 PM
Oct 2012

The way to decide when to use "I" or "me" is to remove the other person's name first.

Correct: "Join John and me tonight while we watch the debate."
Incorrect: "Join John and I tonight while we watch the debate."
(Because "join me tonight" is correct, while "join I tonight" is not.)

Correct: "May John and I watch the debate with you?"
Incorrect: "May John and me watch the debate with you?"
(Because "may I watch the debate with you?" is correct, while "may me watch the debate with you" is not.)

So you used "me" correctly in your subject line: "The Moment Our VP Made Me ... Beam With Pride" instead of "The Moment Our VP Made I ... Beam With Pride"

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