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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:46 PM Oct 2012

Don't Ignore Ryan's Terrifying Answer on Abortion

Don't Ignore Ryan's Terrifying Answer on Abortion

by CatM


During the debate, Paul Ryan said he did not think the abortion issue should be left to "unelected judges" and that it should instead be decided by "elected officials."

On the surface, the media seems to be taking this to mean Romney/Ryan would enact laws to outlaw abortion. MSNBC's Steve Schmitt just said Ryan meant it should be left to the states. "That's what he said," explained Schmitt.

But that is too simple an interpretation. Any law that elected officials pass, whether at the state or federal level, ultimately can be overturned by those "unelected judges" who sit on the Supreme Court. This would suggest that Ryan's answer does not make sense and that he doesn't understand how courts work. Au contraire, my friends.

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The only way elected officials can outlaw abortion and not have it be subject to review by those "unelected judges" on the Supreme Court is to pass a Constitutional Amendment, which is done by -- you got it -- elected officials. Once it becomes part of the Constitution, guess who can't second guess the decision? You got it -- the "unelected judges."

That is the only way one can interpret what Ryan said, unless you want to fall back on the notion that a guy who has essentially spent his whole adult life in Congress, trying hard to outlaw abortion, just doesn't understand that the Supreme Court has the power to overturn any law the President signs on
Constitutional grounds. I am of the view that Ryan knows this.

And didn't Romney tell Mike Huckabee that he would "absolutely" support a Constitutional Amendment saying life begins at conception? Ryan was using coded language to slip this past moderates, but make no mistake, his far-right lunatic fan base knew exactly what he meant, and it's up to us to make sure everyone else knows it, too.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/11/1143416/-Don-t-Ignore-Ryan-s-Terrifying-Answer-on-Abortion



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Don't Ignore Ryan's Terrifying Answer on Abortion (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2012 OP
Excellent point. jsr Oct 2012 #1
Have to because of impulse to rip out his throat. aquart Oct 2012 #2
There are ads that can be used on this still_one Oct 2012 #3
He should be slammed. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #4
Good point. athena Oct 2012 #5
oh no it's much more than forcing women through a "painful process" BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #6

aquart

(69,014 posts)
2. Have to because of impulse to rip out his throat.
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 11:50 PM
Oct 2012

And I can't stand the sight of other people's blood.

athena

(4,187 posts)
5. Good point.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:48 AM
Oct 2012

He wants a constitutional amendment banning abortion.

As a woman, I find it deeply disturbing to see men talking about an issue that will simply never affect them directly. How dare these men say that forcing a woman to go through such a painful process against her will is about saving a "life"? If it is really about "life", then let them also pass laws for forced organ donations. Many lives could be saved by forcing people to donate their extra kidney or bone marrow, for example.

For the past year or so, I've been getting treated for various conditions. At this point, if I accidentally got pregnant, it would be a life-threatening condition. If these people get elected, I'll have to worry about actually "proving" that my life is in danger to a bunch of religious nutcases who are not only not doctors, but who don't have the slightest clue as to how the female body works.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
6. oh no it's much more than forcing women through a "painful process"
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:04 PM
Oct 2012

It's institutionalized dehumanization of women and a national policy of biological enslavement.

Results would also include population and resource stresses that would dwarf what's going on now; and the economic strain would make present suffering look like a picnic.

Also consider the increase in backalley abortions, abuse of women and children, strain on the medical system.

Did I miss anything?


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