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Wed Oct 10, 2012, 06:53 AM

My reply to my brothers hate mail

I get home from working a Candidate Forum last night and checked my email. Besides the seemingly hundreds of messages from candidates surrogates asking for money, I saw a few from family and friends. The first one I open in from my brother, it was obviously some chain bullshit he just passed on and since he got it from someone he believed it.

I could tell quickly that it was a hate piece, it started out about this being a christian nation and then went on with pictures and descriptions of people praying on their mats (sorry, not sure what they are called) in the streets of New York. It said they were Muslims and called this activity horrifying and how you couldn't say prayers at this event or that one but these people could do this. It was a very long piece which once I hit the reply, I deleted.

My reply was:
"It's called freedom of religion, not just my religion. You can pray in the street too if you really want to, there is nothing stopping you, but you might want to start by going to church first."


He has not been inside a church for 20+ years except for my mothers funeral. Oh and I replied to all, that really pisses him off.


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liberal N proud Oct 2012 OP
pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #1
12AngryBorneoWildmen Oct 2012 #4
blackspade Oct 2012 #14
peacebird Oct 2012 #2
beac Oct 2012 #3
Vinca Oct 2012 #5
liberal N proud Oct 2012 #7
The Wizard Oct 2012 #6
TlalocW Oct 2012 #9
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #8
liberal N proud Oct 2012 #16
Borchkins Oct 2012 #10
woodsprite Oct 2012 #11
lunatica Oct 2012 #12
JHB Oct 2012 #13
seabeyond Oct 2012 #15
Butterbean Oct 2012 #17

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 07:00 AM

1. Something else you might consider sending him...

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:11 AM

4. Excellent.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:47 AM

14. Fantastic picture

I'm very sad for his family's loss in a tragic avoidable war.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 07:11 AM

2. Perfect!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:04 AM

3. Well done!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:16 AM

5. He must be really upset by the report the fastest growing religion is no religion.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:48 AM

7. He fits into that group

and I suspect that is why this chain mail was initiated by some fundie in the first place.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:22 AM

6. Reply all

usually gets a shit storm going. I like it.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:57 AM

9. I don't get to do this anymore

My conservative family stopped including me on their right-wing bullshit emails after I kept replying all (sometimes, I would look through the email for the last batch of forwarded emails that people never delete and include them too). They're so easy to systematically destroy on a point-by-point basis. After they stopped including me, my mom would forward them to me with the message, "Debunk this, please." Alas Mom no longer has a computer.

TlalocW

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:57 AM

8. Here's something else for him.

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 04:22 PM

16. That is on its way to him



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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:02 AM

10. Brilliant

Right on point.
B

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:05 AM

11. So short and so true!!! Bookmarking to remind myself

when I get relative/freeper posts.

I think you hit the nail on the head. The people who keep screaming about the first amendment need to be reminded that it's "freedom of religion", not freedom from religion or freedom of my religion.

Unfortunately, I think that people in authority (especially since Bush Jr.) have a problem interpreting that last part of the first amendment..."or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:10 AM

12. I've seen plenty of Christian bible thumpers praying in the streets

You run into them everywhere. They don't just pray like the Muslim's do, they preach at anyone they come across. They demand that you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior so you won't go to everlasting Hell. Most people just avoid them like the plague. They come to your door and try to invite themselves into your house so they can save your soul.

I've never had a Muslim confront me, or try to convert me or try to save me. Ever.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:27 AM

13. It's worth remembering we've been through this before:

Do Mitt, Rick Santorum, and Peter King think Thomas Nast was right?



* Title: Religious liberty is guaranteed : but can we allow foreign reptiles to crawl all over us?
* Creator(s): Nast, Thomas, 1840-1902, artist
* Date Created/Published:
* Medium: 1 drawing : pen and ink.
* Reproduction Number: LC-USZ62-50658 (b&w film copy neg.)
* Rights Advisory: Publication may be restricted. For information see "Cabinet of American Illustration,"(http://www.loc.gov/rr/print/res/111_cai.htmlAZ)
* Access Advisory: Restricted access: Materials in this collection are often extremely fragile; most originals cannot be served.
* Call Number: CAI - Nast, no. 54 (C size)
* Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print
* Notes:
o No publication information.
o (DLC/PP-1980:0080.7).
o Forms part of: Cabinet of American illustration (Library of Congress).
o Exhibit loan 4207-L.
* Subjects:
o Catholics.
o Mormans.
o Domes.
o Freedom of religion.
o Religious groups.
o Reptiles.
* Format:
o Cartoons (Commentary)
o Drawings.
* Collections:
o Cabinet of American Illustration
* Part of: Cabinet of American illustration (Library of Congress)
* Bookmark This Record:
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2010717281/
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2010717281/


“The American River Ganges”

May 8, 1875
Thomas Nast
“The American River Ganges”

Children; Education, Public Schools; New York City, Education; Religion, Roman Catholic Church; Symbols, Columbia; Women, Symbolic;

This cartoon is one of Thomas Nast's most famous. It depicts Roman Catholic clergy as crocodiles invading America's shore to devour the nation's schoolchildren--white, black, American Indian, and Chinese. (The white children are prominent in front, the rest are in the background.) The public school building stands as a fortress against the threat of theocracy, but it has been bombarded and flies Old Glory upside down to signal distress.

Education in nineteenth-century America was provided by a variety of private, charitable, public, and combined public-private institutions, with the public school movement gaining strength over the decades. A major political issue during the 1870s was whether state and municipal governments should allocate funds for religiously affiliated schools, many of which were Roman Catholic. In most public schools, the Protestant version of the Bible was read, Protestant prayers were uttered, and Protestant teachers taught Protestant moral lessons. (Notice the boy in the cartoon who protects the younger students from the Catholic onslaught carries a Bible in his coat.) Catholic (and some Protestant) leaders asked that parochial schools receive their fair share of public funds. Protestant defenders of public schools erroneously considered that request to be an attempt by Catholics to destroy the spreading public school system.
***
The publishers and staff of Harper’s Weekly, including cartoonist Thomas Nast, were mainly Protestant or secular liberals. Like most such Americans, they believed that the Roman Catholic Church was an antiquated, authoritarian institution that stood against the “Modernism” of a progressive society and democratic political institutions. Irish-Catholics in particular were suspected of being loyal primarily to the Vatican, rather than to the United States, and of not being capable of assimilation by nature or stubborn will. Furthermore, Irish-Catholics were overwhelmingly aligned with the Democratic Party, and more politically involved than other ethnic groups. The Republican newspaper was vehemently opposed to what it believed was the growing political and social influence of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States.
(more at link)
http://www.harpweek.com/09cartoon/BrowseByDateCartoon.asp?Month=May&Date=8

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 09:50 AM

15. my fox news watching, knuckle draggin, rw'er brother is all the time preaching Christianity.

yup... get thy ass in church, and make it to the voting place and i will take him half seriously.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Wed Oct 10, 2012, 04:30 PM

17. Oh snap. Check and mate.

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