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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:13 PM Oct 2012

Obama ignored senior advisers in debate prep

"President Obama "did not take his debate preparation seriously, ignored the advice of senior aides and walked off the stage in Denver believing he had got the better of Mitt Romney," Toby Harnden reports.

A top Democrat "said that Obama's inner circle was dismayed at the 'disaster' that the first presidential debate had turned out to be and believed that the central problem was that the President was so disdainful of Romney that he didn't believe he needed to engage with him... The Democrat, who is aligned with the Obama campaign and has been an unofficial adviser on occasions, said that David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist, was stunned that the President left the stage feeling that he had won the debate." "

Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215173/Obama-believed-beaten-Romney-Denver-debate-ignoring-advice-aides.html

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oswaldactedalone

(3,490 posts)
2. Might have lost the Presidency
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:22 PM
Oct 2012

and stymied the Progressive movement with this severe miscalculation. Let's let the "three dimensional chess" meme die and own up to the fact that Obama effed up. Anything that I've said on numerous posts bashing Plouffe and Axelrod I take back.

Blame for "The Great Debate Disaster" lies solely with Obama.

Peregrine Took

(7,412 posts)
4. The odd thing is that he thought he did well.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:34 PM
Oct 2012

That is something I just can't grasp. His perception was the opposite of almost everyone else. I'd love to see what a shrink would say about that.

DavidDvorkin

(19,469 posts)
6. So did I
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:48 PM
Oct 2012

I watched a recording of the debate, after reading all the cries of woe online. I expected to see a disaster, but instead I saw a calm, intelligent man presenting reality vs. a grinning buffoon.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
14. I tuned in from time to time on the radio and kept hoping it wasn't as bad as it sounded.
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
Oct 2012

Turned out to be worse.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
8. Umm..this comes from the Daily Mail...one the most Anti-Obama UK Newspapers ever...
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:54 PM
Oct 2012

Take it with a pinch of salt..no names to the sources and all..surprised folks fall for this stuff...

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
11. daily mail couldn't care less that he has a real job
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:57 PM
Oct 2012

. . . that he is focused on; not just the theater of the debate.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
12. This is a load of crap right here
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
Oct 2012

The President has said repeatedly on the stump that this election was going to be close. Some of you who hang on everything that drips from MSNBC may not have seen this, since they're not in the habit of actually COVERING the President in campaign mode.

This smacks of RW "uppity negro" spin.

I'd like to hear what Axe has to say about this "Democrat aligned with the Obama campaign".

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
13. DailyMail = RW Rag
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:00 PM
Oct 2012

Please do not accept their spin. They are trying to boost Romney's standing by trashing Obama.
I would look elsewhere for political information - they are good for grisly murders and celebrity gossip.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
17. The source for the story is supposedly "a Democrat close to the Obama campaign"....
Tue Oct 9, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

...but not named? Really? That's the oldest trick in the media world....grab a bunch of quotes from secondary sources and invent an unnamed primary source to flesh out the article.

By the way, The Daily Mail is considered to be the most conservative media outlet in the UK.

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