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Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:29 PM

So let me see if I got this straight

WilLIARd Rmoney had to line up an interview with Hannity to walk back his 47% hate fest because President Obama never gave him a single opportunity during the debate. We all know that the focus groups and polls show that he's taken a severe beating given his contempt for the 47%.

Now everyone is talking about Big Bird and no one gives a shit that he now claims to be for the 100%.
No drama Obama is the big winner two days later.

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Reply So let me see if I got this straight (Original post)
malaise Oct 2012 OP
BenzoDia Oct 2012 #1
malaise Oct 2012 #3
Whisp Oct 2012 #12
malaise Oct 2012 #15
Cha Oct 2012 #16
malaise Oct 2012 #18
StatGirl Oct 2012 #38
drthais Oct 2012 #39
Cha Oct 2012 #48
malaise Oct 2012 #58
BenzoDia Oct 2012 #54
rgbecker Oct 2012 #63
Aldo Leopold Oct 2012 #2
malaise Oct 2012 #4
Aldo Leopold Oct 2012 #9
malaise Oct 2012 #10
caraher Oct 2012 #56
Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #5
malaise Oct 2012 #6
Cha Oct 2012 #17
Change has come Oct 2012 #26
malaise Oct 2012 #30
drthais Oct 2012 #40
Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #52
Whisp Oct 2012 #14
Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #7
malaise Oct 2012 #8
Cha Oct 2012 #19
Booster Oct 2012 #29
malaise Oct 2012 #32
bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #11
malaise Oct 2012 #13
Cha Oct 2012 #21
kimbutgar Oct 2012 #27
gkhouston Oct 2012 #34
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #45
BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #46
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #47
spanone Oct 2012 #20
Cha Oct 2012 #22
malaise Oct 2012 #23
spanone Oct 2012 #25
cr8tvlde Oct 2012 #24
malaise Oct 2012 #28
rhett o rick Oct 2012 #31
rhett o rick Oct 2012 #33
malaise Oct 2012 #35
rhett o rick Oct 2012 #36
Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #37
BeliQueen Oct 2012 #41
Iliyah Oct 2012 #49
malaise Oct 2012 #55
OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #42
malaise Oct 2012 #59
CakeGrrl Oct 2012 #43
malaise Oct 2012 #60
Indpndnt Oct 2012 #44
malaise Oct 2012 #61
RobertEarl Oct 2012 #50
malaise Oct 2012 #62
hrmjustin Oct 2012 #51
Third Doctor Oct 2012 #53
malaise Oct 2012 #57

Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:31 PM

1. Too right. Obama had his own script and followed it.

All that was missing was a few counter-punches.

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Response to BenzoDia (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:35 PM

3. He should have called him on the Medicare money lie

and he might have laughed out loud and asked about the Extreme Makeover Rmoney

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:50 PM

12. He did at least one time.

Earlier in the debate when Romney lied about cutting 716B from medicare Obama did say that money was cut from providers and insurance companies and not from people.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #12)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:54 PM

15. I heard him but he should have laughed and said you're still pushing that

lie. Indeed when WilLIARd told him he could'nt have his own facts, he should have laughed and said clearly that was reserved for Rmoney

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Response to malaise (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:02 PM

16. And, when did Romney bring in

the tidbit about his sons lying to him? What context was that..was he calling Pres Obama a liar, too?

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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:04 PM

18. That was a really weird comment

Amazing how Rmoney lies while calling eeryone else a LIAR

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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:45 PM

38. That was a combination of condescension and a dog whistle

He was trying to dominate Obama by creating the impression that he's the father and Obama is on the level of his sons -- which puts Romney one-up in his patriarchal worldview.

But he was also indirectly calling him "boy".

This was clearly one of his rehearsed zingers.

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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:55 PM

39. no, he wasn't calling him a liar...

he was calling him 'Boy'

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Response to drthais (Reply #39)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:30 PM

48. Oh, it was when mitt said Obama was entitled

to his own plane but not his own facts that he was making it seem PBO was the one who was Lying and not himself.

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Response to Cha (Reply #48)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:14 AM

58. Correct n/t

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:25 AM

54. You're absolutely right. That was a give me.

The death panels, Romney's weak tax explanation, pre-existing condition coverage were all gimmes. Just a quick concise rebuttal would have been enough.

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Response to BenzoDia (Reply #54)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:14 AM

63. The President would have come across as petty....

He would have spent his entire time allotment saying " Mitt, that's just not true". Even the most ardent commentators were commenting about how their heads were spinning at all the crap Mitt was splewing. Obama would never have been able to set all those lies straight in his 2 minute allotments.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:35 PM

2. And two days after that, and two more days after that...

So is this luck on the President's part, or did they foresee that by leaving off on the 47% stuff that Romney would likely ooze out into the media afterward and put the focus back on it himself?

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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:37 PM

4. I figure that they believed that he must have spent hours preparing

a response because all the focus groups know that video was a game changer.

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:44 PM

9. Yeah, you're probably right.

Plus, they needed most of their prep time to perfect that "tossing the cheat notes onto the lectern" move!

Good OP, malaise, as usual.

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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:47 PM

10. Looks like the notes were a hanky

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Response to malaise (Reply #10)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:13 AM

56. A very, very stiff, well-starched hanky! <nt>

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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:39 PM

5. It's the audience factor......

Estimates were that 50 million people would tune into the debates. If President Obama brought it out during the debate, Romney would have had an opportunity to look contrite and issue his canned "apology" to the whole nation.

Now, he is relegated to spewing it on cable talk shows, which has a far smaller audience.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:42 PM

6. Correct - Krystal Ball explained it well

earlier this evening.
Further people are more interested in Big Bird than his lying apology

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:04 PM

17. Yeah, Willard set that up

Perfectly!

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Response to malaise (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

26. Krystal Ball?

Is that the woman who is usually on with Lawrence O'Donnell? I never know if I hear her name correctly.

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Response to Change has come (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:14 PM

30. Yep - she co-hosts that awful afternoon program

with that ignorant ReTHUG Cupp.

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Response to malaise (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:58 PM

40. oh god htat republican girl-child

S.E. Cupp or whatever her name is...I can hardly stomach it

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Response to drthais (Reply #40)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:02 AM

52. I can't stand her either.

Maybe this is bad, but when she speaks I just picture her holding one of those big red beer cups near the keg at the Tri Delt mixer with the Kappa Sigs.

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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

14. maybe someone in Romney's camp leaked that.

I can't imagine many people being happy working with that shit.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:42 PM

7. It's a one/two punch, too.......

Remember, RWers don't like their guys to apologize. In their eyes it's a sign of weakness. Not only did Romney not have a chance to put his "apology" out there to a real national audience, he now has issued it to the one segment of the population that thinks he shouldn't apologize because they largely agree with the sentiment.

He just poked a finger into the eye of his own base.

Again.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:44 PM

8. True I hadn't thought of that part

Many of the base agreed with his comments and told him not to back down. Hahahaha.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:05 PM

19. Precisely Wounded Bear..now

that you've mentioned it! Thanks

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

29. And he had to spend money to put the ad out rather than getting it done for free. heehee

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Response to Booster (Reply #29)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

32. And no one cares

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:47 PM

11. The hilarious irony is that the "Big Bird" thing is the closest thing he had to one

of the "zingers" his campaign staff was hyping, and it completely blew up in his face like a cheap novelty cigar!

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

13. Bwaaaaaaaaaaah isn't that the truth

It's freaking hilarious. He is so out of touch that he doesn't have a clue what really matters to Americans - and Sesame Street matters.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:06 PM

21. Willard boomeranged

his zinger!

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

27. Exactly.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:21 PM

34. +1000. It was an especially shitty thing to say to a PBS moderator.

I'm sure the backwash think that was very clever, but pretty much everyone else isn't going to think that's a classy move.

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #34)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:22 PM

45. Especially after stomping all over the moderator for most of the debate.

An entitled twit is what came through the screen. That's Willard.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:24 PM

46. like a cheap novelty cigar.....









P.S. In my googling for a good visual to steal, I saw a seemingly perfect Wile E. Coyote pic. Perfect, until I went to the website. Woa. "The American Thinker". What a pile. It should be called "The American Stinker". I decided not to use anything that would link back to that cesspool.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:27 PM

47. He gleefully threw out that 'zinger' like a grenade. Except he held the grenade & threw the pin!

Moran.

I wish we knew how spontaneous it was. I felt the PBS attack was scripted, but Willard improvised by mentioning Big Bird. Or maybe that's my wishful thinking talking. I just couldn't be more pleased that he put a face on his 'big' budget cut. A big, yellow, adorable, feathery face with legions of tiny (and the now, not-so tiny) fans.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:05 PM

20. i think you have it perfectly straight....!!!!

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Response to spanone (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

22. Yeah, she does!

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Response to spanone (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

23. Wounded Bear makes a good point about the one two punch

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Response to malaise (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:09 PM

25. Bingo!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:08 PM

24. Welcome Big Bird. That was a OOma ma mow papa Oom mow Zinger. Kind of has a beat to it.

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Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:11 PM

28. LOL

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:19 PM

31. I see the strategy for Pres Obama to be cool and give his vision. Let Rmoney struggle, wiggle and

lie.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:20 PM

33. When Mittens said he liked Big Bird and Jim Lehrer he couldnt have been less sincere. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #33)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:24 PM

35. Sincere is not a word that can be used with Rmoney

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Response to malaise (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:25 PM

36. Good point. He cant be sincere about anything, therefore, nothing new. nm

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Response to malaise (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:27 PM

37. Sincerity......

once you learn to fake that, you've got it made.

-George Burns

Romney is still trying to learn that one.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:59 PM

41. Someone on MSNBC said "Wasn't it his job to call Mitt out on every lie."

And I'm yelling at the screen--"No."

He did what he had to do; put forward a plan, endure Romney's childish behavior, and wait for Romney to screw up.

First it was 47%. Now he wants to fire Big Bird--in addition to all the lies and miscalculations.

In the meantime, Obama was the same person he has been throughout--patient, remorseful about things he feels responsible for, forceful when he needed to be, informed, and congenial.

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Response to BeliQueen (Reply #41)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:39 PM

49. Right, you want a leader who can listen to his equals

the American people. OBL decision was tough, failure was not an option. Pres O knows that and thats why he fights for us.

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Response to BeliQueen (Reply #41)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:11 AM

55. I turned off most of the comments after the debate

There were way too many emotional responses

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:02 PM

42. Bingo! Dead on!....

...and now he's gotten hammered by the report on 7.8% unemployment.

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #42)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:22 AM

59. Yes indeed

I was rying to figure out why that racist criminal Sununu called Obama lazy - they must have been really mad that he did not give Rmoney the chance to walk back the 47% remarks after all their preparations.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:06 PM

43. It's odd to see people still playing "woulda, shoulda, coulda" when

the events of the last couple of days have unfolded as they have.

What are the benefits that Romney's reaping from this "win"? Can someone enumerate them?

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Response to CakeGrrl (Reply #43)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:25 AM

60. All Rmoney is reaping is the Big Bird backlash

and the job numbers have not helped him

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:19 PM

44. Precisely!

Funny how things work out, isn't it?

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #44)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:26 AM

61. Indeed

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:40 PM

50. Great thread

My impressions....

Obama was a real gentleman.

Obama has bigger things to think about than what zingers the republicans might invent.

Big bird is in the 47 percent and Romney will fire all the 47ers.

Obama done good.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #50)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:27 AM

62. Thanks

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:42 PM

51. Agreed!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:19 AM

53. I know this sounds corny

but I think they should put out ad on Bigbird. Mainly saying that Mitt would cut public broadcasting which is less than 1% of the budget while giving himself a big tax break.

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Response to Third Doctor (Reply #53)

Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:14 AM

57. Big bird is all over cable right now

and they are showing statements from PBS and statistics showing tha people love Sesame Street. They are not playing WilLIARd's tape with Hannity.

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