Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:29 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
So let me see if I got this straight
WilLIARd Rmoney had to line up an interview with Hannity to walk back his 47% hate fest because President Obama never gave him a single opportunity during the debate. We all know that the focus groups and polls show that he's taken a severe beating given his contempt for the 47%.
Now everyone is talking about Big Bird and no one gives a shit that he now claims to be for the 100%. No drama Obama is the big winner two days later.
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| malaise | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| BenzoDia | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| Whisp | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #15 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| StatGirl | Oct 2012 | #38 | |
| drthais | Oct 2012 | #39 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #48 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #58 | |
| BenzoDia | Oct 2012 | #54 | |
| rgbecker | Oct 2012 | #63 | |
| Aldo Leopold | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Aldo Leopold | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| caraher | Oct 2012 | #56 | |
| Wounded Bear | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| Change has come | Oct 2012 | #26 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #30 | |
| drthais | Oct 2012 | #40 | |
| Arugula Latte | Oct 2012 | #52 | |
| Whisp | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| Wounded Bear | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| Booster | Oct 2012 | #29 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #32 | |
| bullwinkle428 | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| kimbutgar | Oct 2012 | #27 | |
| gkhouston | Oct 2012 | #34 | |
| Indpndnt | Oct 2012 | #45 | |
| BlancheSplanchnik | Oct 2012 | #46 | |
| Indpndnt | Oct 2012 | #47 | |
| spanone | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| Cha | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| spanone | Oct 2012 | #25 | |
| cr8tvlde | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #28 | |
| rhett o rick | Oct 2012 | #31 | |
| rhett o rick | Oct 2012 | #33 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #35 | |
| rhett o rick | Oct 2012 | #36 | |
| Wounded Bear | Oct 2012 | #37 | |
| BeliQueen | Oct 2012 | #41 | |
| Iliyah | Oct 2012 | #49 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #55 | |
| OldDem2012 | Oct 2012 | #42 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #59 | |
| CakeGrrl | Oct 2012 | #43 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #60 | |
| Indpndnt | Oct 2012 | #44 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #61 | |
| RobertEarl | Oct 2012 | #50 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #62 | |
| hrmjustin | Oct 2012 | #51 | |
| Third Doctor | Oct 2012 | #53 | |
| malaise | Oct 2012 | #57 |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:31 PM
BenzoDia (516 posts)
1. Too right. Obama had his own script and followed it.
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All that was missing was a few counter-punches.
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Response to BenzoDia (Reply #1)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:35 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
3. He should have called him on the Medicare money lie
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and he might have laughed out loud and asked about the Extreme Makeover Rmoney
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Response to malaise (Reply #3)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:50 PM
Whisp (17,158 posts)
12. He did at least one time.
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Earlier in the debate when Romney lied about cutting 716B from medicare Obama did say that money was cut from providers and insurance companies and not from people.
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Response to Whisp (Reply #12)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:54 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
15. I heard him but he should have laughed and said you're still pushing that
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lie. Indeed when WilLIARd told him he could'nt have his own facts, he should have laughed and said clearly that was reserved for Rmoney
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Response to malaise (Reply #15)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:02 PM
Cha (124,404 posts)
16. And, when did Romney bring in
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the tidbit about his sons lying to him? What context was that..was he calling Pres Obama a liar, too?
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Response to Cha (Reply #16)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:04 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
18. That was a really weird comment
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Amazing how Rmoney lies while calling eeryone else a LIAR
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Response to Cha (Reply #16)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:45 PM
StatGirl (291 posts)
38. That was a combination of condescension and a dog whistle
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He was trying to dominate Obama by creating the impression that he's the father and Obama is on the level of his sons -- which puts Romney one-up in his patriarchal worldview.
But he was also indirectly calling him "boy". This was clearly one of his rehearsed zingers. |
Response to Cha (Reply #16)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:55 PM
drthais (812 posts)
39. no, he wasn't calling him a liar...
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he was calling him 'Boy'
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Response to drthais (Reply #39)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:30 PM
Cha (124,404 posts)
48. Oh, it was when mitt said Obama was entitled
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to his own plane but not his own facts that he was making it seem PBO was the one who was Lying and not himself.
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Response to malaise (Reply #3)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:25 AM
BenzoDia (516 posts)
54. You're absolutely right. That was a give me.
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The death panels, Romney's weak tax explanation, pre-existing condition coverage were all gimmes. Just a quick concise rebuttal would have been enough.
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Response to BenzoDia (Reply #54)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 09:14 AM
rgbecker (2,208 posts)
63. The President would have come across as petty....
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He would have spent his entire time allotment saying " Mitt, that's just not true". Even the most ardent commentators were commenting about how their heads were spinning at all the crap Mitt was splewing. Obama would never have been able to set all those lies straight in his 2 minute allotments.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:35 PM
Aldo Leopold (186 posts)
2. And two days after that, and two more days after that...
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So is this luck on the President's part, or did they foresee that by leaving off on the 47% stuff that Romney would likely ooze out into the media afterward and put the focus back on it himself?
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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #2)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:37 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
4. I figure that they believed that he must have spent hours preparing
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a response because all the focus groups know that video was a game changer.
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Response to malaise (Reply #4)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:44 PM
Aldo Leopold (186 posts)
9. Yeah, you're probably right.
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Plus, they needed most of their prep time to perfect that "tossing the cheat notes onto the lectern" move!
Good OP, malaise, as usual. |
Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #9)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:47 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
10. Looks like the notes were a hanky
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Response to malaise (Reply #10)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:13 AM
caraher (3,566 posts)
56. A very, very stiff, well-starched hanky! <nt>
Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #2)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:39 PM
Wounded Bear (2,876 posts)
5. It's the audience factor......
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Estimates were that 50 million people would tune into the debates. If President Obama brought it out during the debate, Romney would have had an opportunity to look contrite and issue his canned "apology" to the whole nation.
Now, he is relegated to spewing it on cable talk shows, which has a far smaller audience. |
Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:42 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
6. Correct - Krystal Ball explained it well
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earlier this evening.
Further people are more interested in Big Bird than his lying apology |
Response to malaise (Reply #6)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:04 PM
Cha (124,404 posts)
17. Yeah, Willard set that up
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Perfectly!
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Response to malaise (Reply #6)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:10 PM
Change has come (1,979 posts)
26. Krystal Ball?
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Is that the woman who is usually on with Lawrence O'Donnell? I never know if I hear her name correctly.
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Response to Change has come (Reply #26)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:14 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
30. Yep - she co-hosts that awful afternoon program
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with that ignorant ReTHUG Cupp.
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Response to malaise (Reply #30)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:58 PM
drthais (812 posts)
40. oh god htat republican girl-child
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S.E. Cupp or whatever her name is...I can hardly stomach it
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Response to drthais (Reply #40)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:02 AM
Arugula Latte (40,053 posts)
52. I can't stand her either.
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Maybe this is bad, but when she speaks I just picture her holding one of those big red beer cups near the keg at the Tri Delt mixer with the Kappa Sigs.
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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #2)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:51 PM
Whisp (17,158 posts)
14. maybe someone in Romney's camp leaked that.
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I can't imagine many people being happy working with that shit.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:42 PM
Wounded Bear (2,876 posts)
7. It's a one/two punch, too.......
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Remember, RWers don't like their guys to apologize. In their eyes it's a sign of weakness. Not only did Romney not have a chance to put his "apology" out there to a real national audience, he now has issued it to the one segment of the population that thinks he shouldn't apologize because they largely agree with the sentiment.
He just poked a finger into the eye of his own base. Again. |
Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:44 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
8. True I hadn't thought of that part
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Many of the base agreed with his comments and told him not to back down. Hahahaha.
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:05 PM
Cha (124,404 posts)
19. Precisely Wounded Bear..now
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that you've mentioned it! Thanks
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:13 PM
Booster (9,872 posts)
29. And he had to spend money to put the ad out rather than getting it done for free. heehee
Response to Booster (Reply #29)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:20 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
32. And no one cares
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:47 PM
bullwinkle428 (11,384 posts)
11. The hilarious irony is that the "Big Bird" thing is the closest thing he had to one
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of the "zingers" his campaign staff was hyping, and it completely blew up in his face like a cheap novelty cigar!
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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:51 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
13. Bwaaaaaaaaaaah isn't that the truth
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It's freaking hilarious. He is so out of touch that he doesn't have a clue what really matters to Americans - and Sesame Street matters.
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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:06 PM
Cha (124,404 posts)
21. Willard boomeranged
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his zinger!
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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:21 PM
gkhouston (21,642 posts)
34. +1000. It was an especially shitty thing to say to a PBS moderator.
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I'm sure the backwash think that was very clever, but pretty much everyone else isn't going to think that's a classy move.
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Response to gkhouston (Reply #34)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:22 PM
Indpndnt (2,306 posts)
45. Especially after stomping all over the moderator for most of the debate.
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An entitled twit is what came through the screen. That's Willard.
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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:24 PM
BlancheSplanchnik (7,695 posts)
46. like a cheap novelty cigar.....
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P.S. In my googling for a good visual to steal, I saw a seemingly perfect Wile E. Coyote pic. Perfect, until I went to the website. Woa. "The American Thinker". What a pile. It should be called "The American Stinker". I decided not to use anything that would link back to that cesspool. |
Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #11)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:27 PM
Indpndnt (2,306 posts)
47. He gleefully threw out that 'zinger' like a grenade. Except he held the grenade & threw the pin!
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Moran.
I wish we knew how spontaneous it was. I felt the PBS attack was scripted, but Willard improvised by mentioning Big Bird. Or maybe that's my wishful thinking talking. |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:05 PM
spanone (72,057 posts)
20. i think you have it perfectly straight....!!!!
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Response to spanone (Reply #20)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:08 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
23. Wounded Bear makes a good point about the one two punch
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:08 PM
cr8tvlde (1,171 posts)
24. Welcome Big Bird. That was a OOma ma mow papa Oom mow Zinger. Kind of has a beat to it.
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:19 PM
rhett o rick (26,627 posts)
31. I see the strategy for Pres Obama to be cool and give his vision. Let Rmoney struggle, wiggle and
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lie.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:20 PM
rhett o rick (26,627 posts)
33. When Mittens said he liked Big Bird and Jim Lehrer he couldnt have been less sincere. nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #33)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:24 PM
malaise (105,943 posts)
35. Sincere is not a word that can be used with Rmoney
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Response to malaise (Reply #35)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:25 PM
rhett o rick (26,627 posts)
36. Good point. He cant be sincere about anything, therefore, nothing new. nm
Response to malaise (Reply #35)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:27 PM
Wounded Bear (2,876 posts)
37. Sincerity......
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once you learn to fake that, you've got it made.
-George Burns Romney is still trying to learn that one. |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 10:59 PM
BeliQueen (495 posts)
41. Someone on MSNBC said "Wasn't it his job to call Mitt out on every lie."
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And I'm yelling at the screen--"No."
He did what he had to do; put forward a plan, endure Romney's childish behavior, and wait for Romney to screw up. First it was 47%. Now he wants to fire Big Bird--in addition to all the lies and miscalculations. In the meantime, Obama was the same person he has been throughout--patient, remorseful about things he feels responsible for, forceful when he needed to be, informed, and congenial. |
Response to BeliQueen (Reply #41)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:39 PM
Iliyah (2,329 posts)
49. Right, you want a leader who can listen to his equals
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the American people. OBL decision was tough, failure was not an option. Pres O knows that and thats why he fights for us.
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Response to BeliQueen (Reply #41)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:11 AM
malaise (105,943 posts)
55. I turned off most of the comments after the debate
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Last edited Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:20 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) There were way too many emotional responses
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:02 PM
OldDem2012 (3,526 posts)
42. Bingo! Dead on!....
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...and now he's gotten hammered by the report on 7.8% unemployment.
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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #42)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:22 AM
malaise (105,943 posts)
59. Yes indeed
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I was rying to figure out why that racist criminal Sununu called Obama lazy - they must have been really mad that he did not give Rmoney the chance to walk back the 47% remarks after all their preparations.
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:06 PM
CakeGrrl (9,030 posts)
43. It's odd to see people still playing "woulda, shoulda, coulda" when
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the events of the last couple of days have unfolded as they have.
What are the benefits that Romney's reaping from this "win"? Can someone enumerate them? |
Response to CakeGrrl (Reply #43)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:25 AM
malaise (105,943 posts)
60. All Rmoney is reaping is the Big Bird backlash
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and the job numbers have not helped him
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:19 PM
Indpndnt (2,306 posts)
44. Precisely!
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Funny how things work out, isn't it?
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Response to malaise (Original post)
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 11:40 PM
RobertEarl (2,873 posts)
50. Great thread
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My impressions....
Obama was a real gentleman. Obama has bigger things to think about than what zingers the republicans might invent. Big bird is in the 47 percent and Romney will fire all the 47ers. Obama done good. |
Response to malaise (Original post)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:19 AM
Third Doctor (1,025 posts)
53. I know this sounds corny
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but I think they should put out ad on Bigbird. Mainly saying that Mitt would cut public broadcasting which is less than 1% of the budget while giving himself a big tax break.
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Response to Third Doctor (Reply #53)
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 08:14 AM
malaise (105,943 posts)
57. Big bird is all over cable right now
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and they are showing statements from PBS and statistics showing tha people love Sesame Street. They are not playing WilLIARd's tape with Hannity.
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