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think

(11,641 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:26 PM Jan 2012

The US military has eleven active aircraft carriers. China has one aircraft carrier period

And that is just active aircraft carriers.

Yet the US will end two wars and our military budget will still rise. The only thing weak about the US military are the excuses to keep supporting the military industrial complex at all costs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_by_country#Numbers_of_aircraft_carriers_operated



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The US military has eleven active aircraft carriers. China has one aircraft carrier period (Original Post) think Jan 2012 OP
Not to mention that any one of our carriers would be capable of defeating the rest of the world's .. Ganja Ninja Jan 2012 #1
Of course there is logical justification. Corporate profits. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #3
We have to maintain enough military power to enable BP to steal the world's oil. n/t Scuba Jan 2012 #4
And the nuke subs... Bigmack Jan 2012 #2
The US actively patrols for piracy off the Somali Coast, China is isolationist vminfla Jan 2012 #5
The claim that we are in Germany today to prevent German agression is cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #6
The US Military presence has been a stabilizing force vminfla Jan 2012 #9
Here is list of US military interventions in the past century or so. think Jan 2012 #16
I feel that most voting Americans hold the belief that it is right and proper for the U.S. maggiesfarmer Jan 2012 #7
And most of the other countries that have carriers in service are allies of the US. ronnie624 Jan 2012 #8
Are we safe yet? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #10
Yet we, as our politicians, look at North Korea and say that their policy of Military First is Suji to Seoul Jan 2012 #11
someone has to police the oil shipments and cargo containers across the oceans. madrchsod Jan 2012 #12
China has a carrier? hootinholler Jan 2012 #13
The MSM showed it via satellite photo, on most all tv channels, cable and network... countryjake Jan 2012 #14
A never finished 10 year old Russian vessel that was sold for scrap. COLGATE4 Jan 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author undercraticground Jan 2012 #17

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
1. Not to mention that any one of our carriers would be capable of defeating the rest of the world's ..
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jan 2012

carriers combined. There's simply no logical justification for that much power and that much expense.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
2. And the nuke subs...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jan 2012

and the ICBMs, MRBM, nuclear hand grenades....

This fucking country is crazy.

 

vminfla

(1,367 posts)
5. The US actively patrols for piracy off the Somali Coast, China is isolationist
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:51 PM
Jan 2012

military bases in Europe have been a stabilizing force in the region, resulting in unprecedented prosperity. Let's face it, the last two times we left the Germans unsupervised, they started world wars.

Despite any misgivings you may have of a given conflict, the US military presence has averted more wars than started.

 

vminfla

(1,367 posts)
9. The US Military presence has been a stabilizing force
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:00 PM
Jan 2012

Early 20th Century Europe was marred with one conflict after another. Spanish Civil Wars, two World Wars, and so many others ....


And, because the French and the Germans do not spend as much of *their* GDP on military expenditures such as fighter jets, this frees up working capital on Airbus civilian planes.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
16. Here is list of US military interventions in the past century or so.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:58 PM
Jan 2012

A couple sources for the list:

http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

If you read and understand the history of these interventions many were done on behalf of US multi national corporations especially in Latin and South America.

The Iraq war is just another example of military intervention on behalf of the oil companies and military industrial complex.

Now these companies are selling out America and sending jobs overseas while still putting us on the tab for the their military protection and intervention.

As U.S. Major General Smedley Butler stated "War is a racket":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler


maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
7. I feel that most voting Americans hold the belief that it is right and proper for the U.S.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jan 2012

to have the mightiest and strongest military in the world's history. American's have been socially conditioned to couple their feelings of patriotism with belief in a powerful military.

Unless a large percent of the voting population was literally starving to death, I can't conceive of anything that would shift that attitude. I also can't imagine any voter reform would get enough new voters to the polls to move this.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
8. And most of the other countries that have carriers in service are allies of the US.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jan 2012

The waste of resources and revenue is insane.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
10. Are we safe yet?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jan 2012
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken
 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
11. Yet we, as our politicians, look at North Korea and say that their policy of Military First is
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jan 2012

destructive to their country. Yet, we do the same shit with the MIC.

As Carlin said, "where would we be without our familiar, all-American, red-white-and-blue bullshit? Bullshit is the glue that binds us as a nation."

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
14. The MSM showed it via satellite photo, on most all tv channels, cable and network...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jan 2012

in mid-December, (maybe the 14th or 15th) and I believe that it was on Brian Williams' broadcast of the national evening news when he even used the word "ominous" to describe it.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
15. A never finished 10 year old Russian vessel that was sold for scrap.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jan 2012

Some Chinese investors bought it with the idea of making it into a floating casino. Then the gov't thought better of it and decided to turn it into their first carrier. Out of date, second rate quality POS.

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