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Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:55 PM

Here was my take on the debate last night, as a looney lefty

1. Mitt Romney lost almost immediately- the first time he talked over Jim L and the President. That was before he casually lied about everything and lost control several times just to make it a complete loss.

I'm sure his base loved it, but I saw it as yet a new low in our country- we can't even have a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE without a dirty fight starting.

2. President Obama was lucky to have such a lousy opponent, because while he did an admirable job of keeping to the facts and even effectively pushing back occasionally, he let Mitt beat on him about the Green jobs and let Mitt make the Republican platform (of insanity) look reasonable.

3. President Obama is greatly handicapped both in message and in substance because he believes in many of the fallacies Mitt Romney and the Republicans are trying to sell.

This last point troubles me the most. I feel like the President is like the Chicago School of Economics, constantly clinging to the idea that if they just continue to hold to their ideology in the face of all facts, that Capitalism will indeed be proven to be some sort of perfect divinity made flesh.

Why does this bother me? Because I'm not worried that Romney the thief, liar and overall Republican will win this race. If he does, it will be by diebold or treason, and we didn't stop the last 4 Republicans who did that. No, I'm worried that we'll stay the course on the idea that Gov't is not the solution, even when all the evidence says the opposite is true.

4. Obama clearly won by any sane metric, but we didn't see incumbent Senator Obama's triumphant return. I think that's what most of us were secretly hoping for.

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Reply Here was my take on the debate last night, as a looney lefty (Original post)
Hydra Oct 2012 OP
Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #1
retread Oct 2012 #2
Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #4
SharonAnn Oct 2012 #3
Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #5
Hydra Oct 2012 #6
arboretum Oct 2012 #7

Response to Hydra (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:09 PM

1. Capitalism in its pure form does work

However, that is not what we have in this country.
We have people at the top taking credit for something they do not create.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:40 PM

2. In what alternate universe? Certainly not on this planet.

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Response to retread (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:34 PM

4. I said pure form

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:40 PM

3. Our form supports monopolies who crush competition and raise prices.

It's happened over and over again.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:35 PM

5. So you are saying it is not capitalism ......... I agree

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:32 PM

6. This is capitalism's natural evolution

So, in a way, this is already "pure" capitalism. Theft and fraud are quite often the most efficient way to increase your share of the pie, and then lying and saying you built it all yourself is an efficient way to protect yourself from retribution.

Its just not so fun being the person who is getting ripped off.

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Response to Hydra (Original post)

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:41 PM

7. Grow up!

 

Nothing matters other than who gets the most votes.

The most votes are amassed by taking avantage of immediate concerns.

Immediate concerns are perceived.

Perceptions are manipulated.

Manipulations are the core of politics.

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