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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:49 PM Oct 2012

H20 Man and his Anti-Fracking Friends Deserve Support and Thanks

The great DUer H20 Man has stood up to power -- and put his own health on the line -- in working to stop the "Fracking" of New York State. It seems like their Herculean efforts may be paying off.



According to the NYT, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo's administration is restarting the regulatory process of hydrofracking from the beginning.



Shift by Cuomo on Gas Drilling Prompts Both Anger and Praise

Nathaniel Brooks for The New York Times

ALBANY — A few months after Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo was poised to approve hydraulic fracturing in several struggling New York counties, his administration is reversing course and starting the regulatory process over, garnering praise from environmental groups and stirring anger among industry executives and upstate landowners.

Ten days ago, after nearly four years of review by state regulators, the governor bowed to entreaties from environmentalists to conduct another study, this one an examination of potential impacts on public health. Neither the governor nor other state officials have given any indication of how long the study might take.

Then on Friday, state environmental officials said they would restart the regulatory rule-making process, requiring them to repeat a number of formal steps, including holding a public hearing, and almost certainly pushing a decision into next year.

The move also means that after already receiving nearly 80,000 public comments, the state Department of Environmental Conservation will be soliciting more input from New Yorkers about hydrofracking, or fracking, as the drilling process for natural gas is known.

CONTINUED...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/01/nyregion/with-new-delays-a-growing-sense-that-gov-andrew-cuomo-will-not-approve-gas-drilling.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0&wpisrc=nl_wonk



Let's give thanks to a great human being, H20 Man, and his colleagues who have done so much to raise awareness of fracking and done so much to oppose it.
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H20 Man and his Anti-Fracking Friends Deserve Support and Thanks (Original Post) Octafish Oct 2012 OP
K&R patrice Oct 2012 #1
K & R. n/t antigop Oct 2012 #2
K&R. nt DLevine Oct 2012 #3
Thank you H2O Man! horseshoecrab Oct 2012 #4
H2O Man earns his name... immoderate Oct 2012 #5
Big kick! nt valerief Oct 2012 #6
Kudos and thanks to H2O Man. Cleita Oct 2012 #7
Wow! Thanks! H2O Man Oct 2012 #8
Yes! God bless you jsmirman Oct 2012 #13
Kudos for all your efforts! BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #16
Kudos well deserved. Wondering if you've seen any previews for this anti-fracking film yet... cyberpj Oct 2012 #19
well, you brought DU to the table with you bigtree Oct 2012 #20
k&r - the youngsters are going to see dramatic changes in the coming decades. bananas Oct 2012 #22
MY HERO!!! CatWoman Oct 2012 #24
Thumbs up! Javaman Oct 2012 #29
Here in Arkansas... Blanks Oct 2012 #37
Same here in Ohio. Doremus Oct 2012 #51
It would be nice if people questioned... Blanks Oct 2012 #67
Thank YOU! K&R myrna minx Oct 2012 #41
Thank you for your strength and courage, H2O Man Raksha Oct 2012 #54
People like you make DU. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #60
I tell folks the legend of H2O Man in Kentucky era veteran Oct 2012 #63
Crucial effort. Gregorian Oct 2012 #9
Thanks for saving our land from fossil fuel companies. porphyrian Oct 2012 #10
Can folks in Western NoDak borrow him? Odin2005 Oct 2012 #11
Could not agree more! madamesilverspurs Oct 2012 #12
This is huge! KT2000 Oct 2012 #14
Absofrackin'lutely! Tx 4 ur info, activism & commitment H2Oman! BTW - Seen this movie preview yet? cyberpj Oct 2012 #15
This New Yorker gives thanks! firehorse Oct 2012 #17
Happy to K and R. mzmolly Oct 2012 #18
Thank you so much, H2O Man, for all of your efforts! Flaxbee Oct 2012 #21
Great news Beringia Oct 2012 #23
k&r CrazyOrangeCat Oct 2012 #25
A big thank you to H20 and all the anti-frackers! nt raouldukelives Oct 2012 #26
HA! That's me in the duck suit and respirator! Earth_First Oct 2012 #27
Kudos to you as well then Earth_First!! A big kiss! nt riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #30
Bless you for that! K&R, nt. druidity33 Oct 2012 #39
No problem. I couldn't allow this situation to cross the border into New York... Earth_First Oct 2012 #40
Well done, my friend. Skidmore Oct 2012 #28
((((Hugs)))) for H2O Man!! Bravo! nt riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #31
Putting beliefs into action which really matters, gets results. Wonderful. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2012 #32
Great news! THANK YOU H2O MAN!!! freefall Oct 2012 #33
Good news indeed! hootinholler Oct 2012 #34
I couldn't agree more. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #35
K&R-Thank you, H2O Man!! and thank you, Octafish for the thread.. TheUnspeakable Oct 2012 #36
K&R for the courageous! nt Mnemosyne Oct 2012 #38
It was a fiscal call GulleyJimson Oct 2012 #42
I'm not a cartoon. H2O Man Oct 2012 #49
If I could say what I really thought of your post Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #61
Yes indeed - thank you Waterman malaise Oct 2012 #43
Thanks you H2O Man. You are a very reliable barometer.. . . .n/t annabanana Oct 2012 #44
You are a hero- sevenseas Oct 2012 #45
K&R. David Zephyr Oct 2012 #46
Thank you H2O Man and your whole team! Great work! Overseas Oct 2012 #47
Fracking is the central issue in the mining legislation debate in Wis. k n r mojowork_n Oct 2012 #48
K & R! Love that H2O Man! lonestarnot Oct 2012 #50
Thank you all ..... H2O Man Oct 2012 #52
Well, in fairness. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #66
R&K defacto7 Oct 2012 #53
Luv ya H2O man! burrowowl Oct 2012 #55
K & R HCE SuiGeneris Oct 2012 #56
Support and Thanks - he's got it. xxqqqzme Oct 2012 #57
Thanks and Kudos! jsr Oct 2012 #58
H20 Man and his Anti-Fracking Friends Deserve Support and Thanks allan01 Oct 2012 #59
K & R (n/t) bread_and_roses Oct 2012 #62
k and r!!!!!! goclark Oct 2012 #64
^^^WaterMan^^^ blm Oct 2012 #65
A kick of thanks and Rec YankeyMCC Oct 2012 #68

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
4. Thank you H2O Man!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:01 PM
Oct 2012

This is great news! H2O Man has worked so hard at the fracking issue in NY. Thank you H2O Man!

And, thank you Octafish for posting this excellent news!

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
8. Wow! Thanks!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:27 PM
Oct 2012

You have no idea how much this OP/thread mean to me.

I'm merely one of many, many people who are active in this struggle. Because I've had the opportunity to have decades of experience in the struggle for social justice -- including having the chance to learn from some of the most outstanding figures engaged in the Good Fight in those years -- this Old Man is now taking the time to try to teach some "youngsters" the lessons that I've learned along the way.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
13. Yes! God bless you
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:30 PM
Oct 2012

We are all in your debt and in the debt of people who fought alongside you on this.

And I feel a little better about Cuomo today than I did yesterday.

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
19. Kudos well deserved. Wondering if you've seen any previews for this anti-fracking film yet...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:41 PM
Oct 2012

Saw previews over the weekend of a movie to come that will (hopefully) do a lot to spread more factual information. Although after searching on the movie title I see FOX is already attacking it. I'm just hoping the well-liked Matt Damon's attachment to it will help get some new eyes on the topic.

"Promised Land" is a new film starring and written by Matt Damon and John Krasinski, based on a story by San Francisco-based writer Dave Eggers. In the film, Damon and actress Frances McDormand play a team that shows a rural town hard hit by economic decline, offering to pay big money for drilling rights.

Krasinski plays a local activist who leads the town into rebellion against the drillers, arguing that their plans would damage the local environment. To anyone who is familiar with the debates about fracking in, say, upstate New York, this will be a familiar story.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/01/14170780-hollywood-environmentalists-persian-gulf-oil-barons-have-common-foe-fracking

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
20. well, you brought DU to the table with you
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:44 PM
Oct 2012

. . . for that alone, you certainly deserve our praise. Let's hope Andrew is sincere in his efforts; better yet, let's keep him honest with continued advocacy and (safe, healthy) activism.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
22. k&r - the youngsters are going to see dramatic changes in the coming decades.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:53 PM
Oct 2012

And they can change things for the better.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
37. Here in Arkansas...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 04:29 PM
Oct 2012

...they have commercials about how great fracking is for the local economy.

I know a guy who lives where they are doing the fracking and he sings a different tune. They have earthquakes and the water table has disappeared for the people with wells. Not related... Really?

Fracking is the thing that's gonna finally poison us all.

Keep up the good fight.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
51. Same here in Ohio.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:01 PM
Oct 2012

In fact hubby and I caught part of the propaganda movie that shows fracking in a hugely favorable light. Millions of dollars for landowners, instant riches for cash-strapped municipal governments, the whole bit.

Hopefully the owners thinking of signing up learn of the serious detriments before it's too late for them (and us).

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
67. It would be nice if people questioned...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:55 AM
Oct 2012

...why an industry that the public does not purchase directly from is advertising; particularly during the evening news.

GE and Shell advertise their environmental emphasis too. Shell makes a little more sense because at least people choose who they purchase their gasoline from, but when I see one of these GE ads; I wonder what it is that they are up to that they don't want on the news.

It doesn't appear to be common knowledge that GE manufactured the nuclear plant that were (and are) such a problem in Japan.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
54. Thank you for your strength and courage, H2O Man
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:37 PM
Oct 2012

I hope that new generation of young activists you are training appreciate the opportunity they have to learn with such a great teacher.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
12. Could not agree more!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oct 2012

We could use H2O Man around here. In my county alone there are 19,000 wells. We're also in a drought, and farmers take a very distant back seat to frackers at the water auctions. Our county commission, city council and, most disappointing, our Democratic governor have chosen to not heed the mounting evidence. But we're not shutting up, we're not going away.

On facebook: FrackFiles

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cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
15. Absofrackin'lutely! Tx 4 ur info, activism & commitment H2Oman! BTW - Seen this movie preview yet?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:35 PM
Oct 2012

Saw previews over the weekend of a movie to come that will (hopefully) do a lot to spread more factual information. Although after searching on the movie title I see FOX is already attacking it. I'm just hoping the well-liked Matt Damon's attachment to it will help get some new eyes on the topic.

"Promised Land" is a new film starring and written by Matt Damon and John Krasinski, based on a story by San Francisco-based writer Dave Eggers. In the film, Damon and actress Frances McDormand play a team that shows a rural town hard hit by economic decline, offering to pay big money for drilling rights.

Krasinski plays a local activist who leads the town into rebellion against the drillers, arguing that their plans would damage the local environment. To anyone who is familiar with the debates about fracking in, say, upstate New York, this will be a familiar story.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/01/14170780-hollywood-environmentalists-persian-gulf-oil-barons-have-common-foe-fracking

firehorse

(755 posts)
17. This New Yorker gives thanks!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

Cuomo was looking like a republican with his initial stance on fracking. I hope in the end the state bans it like Vermont.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
27. HA! That's me in the duck suit and respirator!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 02:23 PM
Oct 2012

Yes, there are many who have done much, much more than I have including dear H20 man!

The majority of my work has been at the local moratorium level, the heavy hitters are the ones heading to Albany on a monthly basis...

Thanks again for the support!

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
40. No problem. I couldn't allow this situation to cross the border into New York...
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:56 PM
Oct 2012

I've been to Dimmock, Bradford etc. and have seen the travesty that the oil and gas companies have created in neighboring Pennsylvania; it's atrocious!

Again, however. There are many who did much, much more on a much larger effort than I.

I am humbly just a spoke in this giant wheel of activism.

Thanks, H20 Man

TheUnspeakable

(1,005 posts)
36. K&R-Thank you, H2O Man!! and thank you, Octafish for the thread..
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 03:47 PM
Oct 2012

and thank you both for still being here at DU

 

GulleyJimson

(107 posts)
42. It was a fiscal call
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:01 PM
Oct 2012

No place to store all that cheap gas.

H20 man? Please, do we need cartoon characters to fight the fight?

R.I.P. Barry Commoner

H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
52. Thank you all .....
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:10 PM
Oct 2012

.... except the person who called me a "cartoon character."

I've been working on typing up an important document today, for use in the struggle to protect the environment from the hazards of hydrofracking. It's something that people from a three-county region in upstate New York have wanted me to do. More, it's an important enough project that, in order to get it to the quality I want, it is as difficult a project as I've ever done.

But it will get done.

About a month ago, Governor Cuomo was preparing to give the "green light" for hydrofracking in the state's Southern Tier. As some of you are aware, I have a long-term working relationship with one of the members of Cuomo's "advisory committee" on fracking. So, from time to time, I hear things that aren't reported in the media.

The strong, organized grass roots response to the "outhern Tier sacrifice" plan helped to slow it down. So did the certainty of law cases being filed. We definitely would have won, in terms of getting an injunction, based upon the faulty science of the SGEIS. Cuomo knew this; because he is moving forward with his 2016 presidential run, he did not want to lose such a court case. It's not because he cares about the environment per say -- he is a cold, ambitious politician.

Keep in mind that the top level people in the county and state democratic committees have informed Cuomo that the Democratic Left (or, in their words, the "Far Left&quot provides the core of activists for much of the grass roots, door-to-door campaigning. Cuomo's stance on hydrofracking has impacted the level of their participation in numerous races across the state. Hence, the governor's recent shift in position.

None of us believe that Cuomo will do anything to help us, out of the goodness of his heart. Or that he will continue to do the right thing, should the opportunity to reap more energy corporation contributions come up. And so it is essential that we continue to work just as hard today, as we did yesterday, or last week, or last month.

(Also -- if you'll excuse my skipping about here -- the anti-hydrofracking movement recently strengthened ties with the Onondaga Nation .... last month, there was a great day of speeches, presentations, and live music at Onondaga. And that, as I've noted on DU several times in the past year, opens up other levels for environmentalists et al to engage in the Good Fight.)

Earlier today, while taking a break from writing, I came upon this OP/thread. What a nice thing for a tired Old Man to come across! And, this evening, while going to a couple small meetings held at associates' homes, my friends thought this was really encouraging, too. So thank you all, for your kind words.

Back to work!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
66. Well, in fairness.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:56 AM
Oct 2012

Superman and the Batman were also cartoon characters.

DU: always a fool or two to be suffered.

Thanks for all you do, for fighting the Good Fight.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
59. H20 Man and his Anti-Fracking Friends Deserve Support and Thanks
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 06:02 AM
Oct 2012

thanks h20 man


on edit: i claim not to own this video. the people who distributed it own it
fracking gone askew.
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