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CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:42 PM Sep 2012

In the third debate, Mitt will likely go very hard against Obama on Embassy security.

What should be Obama's response?

Or will it be all over after the first debate (as the media is saying constantly) and everybody will be tuned out?

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In the third debate, Mitt will likely go very hard against Obama on Embassy security. (Original Post) CTyankee Sep 2012 OP
How about: "Ah, Mitt, that it were as simple as you seem to think..." landolfi Sep 2012 #1
The first debate timber84 Sep 2012 #2
"Play by the rules jackass..." Rosco T. Sep 2012 #3
Oops! My bad. And I even noted it on my calendar "domestic policy"! Today may not be my best day... CTyankee Sep 2012 #7
Just to clarify.. "Jackass" is Mittens Rosco T. Sep 2012 #8
Oh, I knew that was what you were referring to! But I have now edited/corrected my post CTyankee Sep 2012 #10
The first debate's domestic policy. Arkana Sep 2012 #4
Yep, mea culpa. I have edited my post accordingly...thanks for letting me know... CTyankee Sep 2012 #9
please correct me if wrong, but wasn't the State Department's budget slashed by... Raster Sep 2012 #5
Not without support from Dems in the Senate. GeorgeGist Sep 2012 #30
Cite state department budget cuts by repugs Mponti Sep 2012 #6
How utterly inconvenient (for Mitt) Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2012 #11
Do Republicans really want to debate Americans' being attacked by Muslims? Hello, 9/11. Hello, 241 WinkyDink Sep 2012 #12
LOL ...third debate.. DearAbby Sep 2012 #13
I know, but it is the one area that worries me. If the campaign were smart (a BIG if) it would CTyankee Sep 2012 #15
The pressure on Romney for this first debate DearAbby Sep 2012 #28
Do you think they'll just give up and cancel the other two debates? CTyankee Sep 2012 #31
"The security of embassies is the responsibility of the host nation, Mitt." bluedigger Sep 2012 #14
We don't want all our embassies to look like forts ... lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #16
Good response and I think Obama would say something very like that. But he should also be CTyankee Sep 2012 #17
That would be a precious gift. lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #18
It would be a precious gift, I agree. And other presidents have had similar instances... CTyankee Sep 2012 #20
I believe by then we will have acted on intelligence and wacked a bunch of the guys who did the deed winstars Sep 2012 #19
I think you are right and the third debate certainly is far enough away for something to happen CTyankee Sep 2012 #22
Everything in this election matters; it's a historical record breaker. porphyrian Sep 2012 #21
But that to me sounds like he's avoiding the question. CTyankee Sep 2012 #23
That's why I didn't answer for him, I said what I'd say. porphyrian Sep 2012 #24
Yup. Well, I think we are just going to have to trust that this is something the campaign has CTyankee Sep 2012 #25
I feel they are on-the-ball professionals and I trust them. I'm sure they are working hard... porphyrian Sep 2012 #26
How about a response like: House proposed $5 billion cut for State Department and foreign operation DreamGypsy Sep 2012 #27
Excellent! Obama can say "Glad you brought that up, Governor." And then let him have it with CTyankee Sep 2012 #29

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
3. "Play by the rules jackass..."
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

.. the subject of this debate is DOMESTIC POLICY... FOREIGN POLICY is the third debate. Or did you not get that memo?

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
7. Oops! My bad. And I even noted it on my calendar "domestic policy"! Today may not be my best day...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:47 PM
Sep 2012

I also left my keys in the ignition while I had my hair cut...it's just a good thing nobody would steal my old car...

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
10. Oh, I knew that was what you were referring to! But I have now edited/corrected my post
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:53 PM
Sep 2012

to read properly...

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
4. The first debate's domestic policy.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

I'd expect to see that in the third debate, which is strictly foreign policy.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. please correct me if wrong, but wasn't the State Department's budget slashed by...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

...the Republican obstructionist Congress?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,391 posts)
11. How utterly inconvenient (for Mitt)
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:56 PM
Sep 2012

Yay Tea Party and its obsession with less spending (for everything but "defense" anyway)!!!!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
12. Do Republicans really want to debate Americans' being attacked by Muslims? Hello, 9/11. Hello, 241
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:58 PM
Sep 2012

Marines in Beirut.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
13. LOL ...third debate..
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:59 PM
Sep 2012

That would be after he gaffed the first two debates, and be lucky that even FOX is taking him seriously on foreign affairs.

Look at the rate Gaffes are being made, How many times has the Romney campaign had to reboot. Its a Campaign running on events...ambulance chasers...they have no clue about foreign affairs...neither does Romney.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
15. I know, but it is the one area that worries me. If the campaign were smart (a BIG if) it would
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

have Mitt attack Obama there. And I think the White House was stunned by events in Libya and Egypt. I have never seen Hillary so devastated as after the loss in Benghazi. That attack hit Obama and Hillary very hard and were painful for them. Embassy safety is very serious, IMO...and I think this is very tough for them to explain.

Just a 2 cents worry from an old Dem here...

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
28. The pressure on Romney for this first debate
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:27 PM
Sep 2012

is enormous. He hasn't handled stress well up till now, what makes you think there will be a second or third debate?

The game will be up after the first debate, The GOP party will implode. All they have to do first debate, ask one question..."Explain the 47% Comment."

He can't. Debate over.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
31. Do you think they'll just give up and cancel the other two debates?
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:41 PM
Sep 2012

I can't imagine that, even as badly beaten in the first debate as I think Romney will be. Sometimes I look at Romney when he is speaking and there's this strange look on his face, like he is in some kind of trance and seeing things that aren't there. In his alternate universe he may really believe that he IS winning, he's not just lying...

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
14. "The security of embassies is the responsibility of the host nation, Mitt."
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:00 PM
Sep 2012

"I haven't heard of any embassies being overrun here in the US, have you?"

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
16. We don't want all our embassies to look like forts ...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:10 PM
Sep 2012



with concertina wire and machine gun positions every few yards apart. And if we fortified only a few in this manner perhaps we shouldn't be there at all. It should be open enough where local residents would feel comfortable coming in and learning about our country and our culture and be at ease while doing so.


CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
17. Good response and I think Obama would say something very like that. But he should also be
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:14 PM
Sep 2012

expecting the comeback from Romney "Shouldn't our intelligence be able to get us information about possible terrorist attacks?"

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
18. That would be a precious gift.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
Sep 2012



Obama could reply with something like "You mean like GW Bush got before 0911?"


CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
20. It would be a precious gift, I agree. And other presidents have had similar instances...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:28 PM
Sep 2012

Reagan lost 265 Marines in Lebanon due to a terrorist attack that we didn't know about. President Clinton had some embassy attacks and the attack on the USS Cole. Both of them have emerged in a good light anyway.

I think Obama will be forgiven on this but it cannot be easy for him. I expect he made some immediate actions that we'll probably never know about but it is still tough. I'm sure he grieves these losses deeply...

winstars

(4,219 posts)
19. I believe by then we will have acted on intelligence and wacked a bunch of the guys who did the deed
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:23 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:56 AM - Edit history (1)

I'd like to think that all this CNN and Faux Embassygate stuff is gonna get squashed very soon. No FBI at the scene, our "stuff lying around, that is not so good. But I want to believe that any CSI detecting is pointless anyway because its not like their is gonna be fingerprints on a glass or doorknob like on the TeeVee.

I like to think they will figure who did it with local informants, and intelligence. Then with drones overhead we will fire some Hellfire missiles at some well deserving house or camp or even use some cruise missiles just cause its easy to from the ships we have right off the coast of Libya. And we will show the doubters that people, groups etc should not fuck with us.

I like to think that Mittens will never get to use this much because we will have changed the whole storyline...

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
22. I think you are right and the third debate certainly is far enough away for something to happen
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:33 PM
Sep 2012

to get at least some of the perps.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
21. Everything in this election matters; it's a historical record breaker.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:32 PM
Sep 2012

I can't say what Obama should do, but I would ask Romney where the fuck he gets off criticizing anyone on foreign policy when his tax evading money has seen more international diplomacy than he has.

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
23. But that to me sounds like he's avoiding the question.
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 03:45 PM
Sep 2012

My guess is that Obama is going to first and foremost debate as the President of the United States. That being the case I expect him to say things like "As President, I deal with critical issues from all over the world on a daily basis and the world is a dangerous place...." and start that narrative. Who knows how many plots his people have already foiled, that we may never know about? I remember Clinton saying that after the USS Cole incident. It's a difficult thing to do because Obama simply CAN'T talk about a lot of this stuff. It truly is a "you have to trust me" type of situation. We don't have a choice, but what we can do is choose the candidate that we trust more on the issue...

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
25. Yup. Well, I think we are just going to have to trust that this is something the campaign has
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:06 PM
Sep 2012

thought deeply about and has developed a reasoned response. I feel that I know enough about the way Obama and his folks think to trust them here...

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
26. I feel they are on-the-ball professionals and I trust them. I'm sure they are working hard...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:16 PM
Sep 2012

...even if the competition is making it easier for them.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
27. How about a response like: House proposed $5 billion cut for State Department and foreign operation
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sep 2012

From April 25, 2012

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/04/25/house_proposes_5_billion_cut_for_state_department_and_foreign_operations

The House Appropriations Committee proposed cutting the State Department and foreign operations budget by more than $5 billion next year, in its annual allocations released Tuesday.

The Obama administration actually requested modest increases in funding for the State Department and USAID for fiscal 2013 when it released its budget request in February. While the Congress doesn't divide up the accounts the same way as the administration, in an apples-to-apples comparison, the House Appropriations Committees' allocation for State and foreign operations for fiscal 2013, $48.4 billion, would represent a 12 percent cut from the administration's $54.71 billion request for the same accounts.

The House proposed fully funding the president's $8.2 billion request for State Department funding related to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, known as the Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) account. Therefore, the remainder of the funding proposed by the House, $40.1 billion for the base budget, would represent a 14 percent cut to the administration's request for non-war related diplomatic and development activities.

snip

Subcommittee ranking Democrat Nita Lowey (D-NY) criticized the cuts in her own statement to The Cable.

"I am disappointed by this short-sighted allocation and the Republicans' decision to ignore bipartisan funding levels agreed to in the Budget Control Act," she said. "We must not make cuts that fundamentally weaken our national security interests."

CTyankee

(63,883 posts)
29. Excellent! Obama can say "Glad you brought that up, Governor." And then let him have it with
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 04:28 PM
Sep 2012

what the House Approp. Comm. did and ask Romney if agrees with the cut to foreign operations given recent incidents...

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