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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn the third debate, Mitt will likely go very hard against Obama on Embassy security.
What should be Obama's response?
Or will it be all over after the first debate (as the media is saying constantly) and everybody will be tuned out?
landolfi
(234 posts)timber84
(2,876 posts)is supposed to be on Domestic policy.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts).. the subject of this debate is DOMESTIC POLICY... FOREIGN POLICY is the third debate. Or did you not get that memo?
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)I also left my keys in the ignition while I had my hair cut...it's just a good thing nobody would steal my old car...
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)CTyankee
(63,883 posts)to read properly...
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I'd expect to see that in the third debate, which is strictly foreign policy.
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...the Republican obstructionist Congress?
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)And Obama's signature.
Nice try though.
Mponti
(163 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)Yay Tea Party and its obsession with less spending (for everything but "defense" anyway)!!!!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Marines in Beirut.
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)That would be after he gaffed the first two debates, and be lucky that even FOX is taking him seriously on foreign affairs.
Look at the rate Gaffes are being made, How many times has the Romney campaign had to reboot. Its a Campaign running on events...ambulance chasers...they have no clue about foreign affairs...neither does Romney.
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)have Mitt attack Obama there. And I think the White House was stunned by events in Libya and Egypt. I have never seen Hillary so devastated as after the loss in Benghazi. That attack hit Obama and Hillary very hard and were painful for them. Embassy safety is very serious, IMO...and I think this is very tough for them to explain.
Just a 2 cents worry from an old Dem here...
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)is enormous. He hasn't handled stress well up till now, what makes you think there will be a second or third debate?
The game will be up after the first debate, The GOP party will implode. All they have to do first debate, ask one question..."Explain the 47% Comment."
He can't. Debate over.
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)I can't imagine that, even as badly beaten in the first debate as I think Romney will be. Sometimes I look at Romney when he is speaking and there's this strange look on his face, like he is in some kind of trance and seeing things that aren't there. In his alternate universe he may really believe that he IS winning, he's not just lying...
bluedigger
(17,085 posts)"I haven't heard of any embassies being overrun here in the US, have you?"
lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)with concertina wire and machine gun positions every few yards apart. And if we fortified only a few in this manner perhaps we shouldn't be there at all. It should be open enough where local residents would feel comfortable coming in and learning about our country and our culture and be at ease while doing so.
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)expecting the comeback from Romney "Shouldn't our intelligence be able to get us information about possible terrorist attacks?"
lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)Obama could reply with something like "You mean like GW Bush got before 0911?"
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)Reagan lost 265 Marines in Lebanon due to a terrorist attack that we didn't know about. President Clinton had some embassy attacks and the attack on the USS Cole. Both of them have emerged in a good light anyway.
I think Obama will be forgiven on this but it cannot be easy for him. I expect he made some immediate actions that we'll probably never know about but it is still tough. I'm sure he grieves these losses deeply...
winstars
(4,219 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:56 AM - Edit history (1)
I'd like to think that all this CNN and Faux Embassygate stuff is gonna get squashed very soon. No FBI at the scene, our "stuff lying around, that is not so good. But I want to believe that any CSI detecting is pointless anyway because its not like their is gonna be fingerprints on a glass or doorknob like on the TeeVee.
I like to think they will figure who did it with local informants, and intelligence. Then with drones overhead we will fire some Hellfire missiles at some well deserving house or camp or even use some cruise missiles just cause its easy to from the ships we have right off the coast of Libya. And we will show the doubters that people, groups etc should not fuck with us.
I like to think that Mittens will never get to use this much because we will have changed the whole storyline...
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)to get at least some of the perps.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)I can't say what Obama should do, but I would ask Romney where the fuck he gets off criticizing anyone on foreign policy when his tax evading money has seen more international diplomacy than he has.
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)My guess is that Obama is going to first and foremost debate as the President of the United States. That being the case I expect him to say things like "As President, I deal with critical issues from all over the world on a daily basis and the world is a dangerous place...." and start that narrative. Who knows how many plots his people have already foiled, that we may never know about? I remember Clinton saying that after the USS Cole incident. It's a difficult thing to do because Obama simply CAN'T talk about a lot of this stuff. It truly is a "you have to trust me" type of situation. We don't have a choice, but what we can do is choose the candidate that we trust more on the issue...
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)CTyankee
(63,883 posts)thought deeply about and has developed a reasoned response. I feel that I know enough about the way Obama and his folks think to trust them here...
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)...even if the competition is making it easier for them.
DreamGypsy
(2,252 posts)From April 25, 2012
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/04/25/house_proposes_5_billion_cut_for_state_department_and_foreign_operations
The Obama administration actually requested modest increases in funding for the State Department and USAID for fiscal 2013 when it released its budget request in February. While the Congress doesn't divide up the accounts the same way as the administration, in an apples-to-apples comparison, the House Appropriations Committees' allocation for State and foreign operations for fiscal 2013, $48.4 billion, would represent a 12 percent cut from the administration's $54.71 billion request for the same accounts.
The House proposed fully funding the president's $8.2 billion request for State Department funding related to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, known as the Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) account. Therefore, the remainder of the funding proposed by the House, $40.1 billion for the base budget, would represent a 14 percent cut to the administration's request for non-war related diplomatic and development activities.
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Subcommittee ranking Democrat Nita Lowey (D-NY) criticized the cuts in her own statement to The Cable.
"I am disappointed by this short-sighted allocation and the Republicans' decision to ignore bipartisan funding levels agreed to in the Budget Control Act," she said. "We must not make cuts that fundamentally weaken our national security interests."
CTyankee
(63,883 posts)what the House Approp. Comm. did and ask Romney if agrees with the cut to foreign operations given recent incidents...