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Authorities in Polk County arrested a 41-year-old Haines City woman on Monday, accused of repeatedly having sex with an underage student at the Christian school where she worked as a secretary.
Trina Rocker, a married secretary at Landmark Christian School, faces five counts of unlawful sex with certain minors.
uthorities say the sexual activity began in November and continued until the victim, a 17-year-old Landmark Christian student, graduated in May.
The victim's parents reported Rocker to the Sheriff's Office after finding out about the sexual activity, deputies say, which occurred in her vehicle, at her house and on a senior trip to Washington, D.C., which Rocker chaperoned
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-landmark-christian-student-sex-20120926,0,6115416.story
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)I can understand the shame and betrayal that young girls may feel when they have an affair with an older man.
But I would rather suspect that this is not the same with a young male....
Someone needs to talk to a grown male who has had this experience and see if there are lasting effects or if they just have the best dreams and that feeling of pride and satisfaction you feel when you think you've scored the big time!
Really people, I've seen stories of young boys being pleasured by a teacher or older woman in the neighborhood and these guys are lining up waiting their turn. They aren't coerced or manipulated...
we'll actually they are but in a good way.
Just because there's a law doesn't mean it's right!
Let's get real!
BanzaiBonnie
(3,621 posts)socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)Does the boy feel he is being used by his teacher
or does he feel he has the power over his sexual partner?
Anyone want to fess up to having an experience like this
in your younger years and how you feel about it now?
Baitball Blogger
(46,575 posts)there may be struggles with his moral conscience later in life. I don't think you should be using him on your behalf, to push your issue.
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)So you are saying that a strict religious upbringing may cause a yout (as Vinnie would say) to have problems expressing his sexuality.
Baitball Blogger
(46,575 posts)yes, there are residual effects that sometimes aid, and sometimes hinder your development, depending on the environment you grow up in.
You spoke your mind, and so did I. That's called discussion.
postulater
(5,075 posts)was the one between my head and my dick.
And my head didn't win very often.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)I'm a guy and yes I lusted after a few older teachers (although to be fair, they were probably only 25 or so), but it's just as much a crime with either gender on either side. It's still statutory rape.
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)I'm trying to find out if there is a real problem with how young boys feel about having sex with older women.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)And yes, the statutory laws are old and vary by state, but a 24 year difference (more than the age of the child) is really pushing it no matter how you think about it. Yeah, okay, most high school boys want some pussy. STOP THE PRESS! Even if the kid was fully cooperative, willing, and appreciative, how is that different from a 17 year old girl lusting after and getting a 41 year old male teacher? It's still a breach of trust and against the law in every state, despite their differences at the 18 year old boundary. That's true with same-sex molestation as well. It's one of those situations everyone should just look at and think, "that's just so wrong."
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)feel good or bad about it later...
I'm a guy and I think it's nuts to punish a woman
for a relationship or affair with a younger person.
I just see this poor kid going to testify in court and spewing all the things in court his mother told him to say.
When you were young (you may still be young)
start over...
When I was young Sophia Loren was a lot older that I was
but I wouldn't have thought, for one minute, about turning
down an opportunity, if offered.
I'm just trying to see if others agree that taboos that are made up by older people about what young boys have a legal right to do or not do is stupid - in this case. they just arrest the woman and the kid has no say. It's always the mother that finds out and calls the police because "her little boy" has been violated.
Does the kid suffer mental trauma or is he proud as a peacock?
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)It is physically possible for a 17 year old female to enjoy having sex with an older male and not suffer permanent trauma.
I'm just trying to see if others agree that taboos that are made up by older people about what young boys have a legal right to do or not do is stupid - in this case. they just arrest the woman and the kid has no say. It's always the mother that finds out and calls the police because "her little boy" has been violated.
Flip the genders around and you'd have no problem with it. Try "she probably loved it" the next time a 40 year old guy has sex with a 17 year old girl. See what response you get.
gateley
(62,683 posts)I didn't suffer a bit.
I think it probably depends on the individual and the circumstance.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)But since you were a girl you couldn't really decide such things for yourself and should have been protected from such predatory men. Also the experience was really traumatic and horrible.
/I'm amazed to see such sentiments expressed here.
mangermerdeRWfreaks
(39 posts)I would not have complained, neither would most of my friends.
Some my teachers were hot or at least I thought so in my young twisted hot for teacher mind.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)but not young boys?
Really people, I've seen stories of young boys being pleasured by a teacher or older woman in the neighborhood and these guys are lining up waiting their turn. They aren't coerced or manipulated...
There are 17 year old girls who would have consensual (although statutory) sex with a 41 year old.
This is all based on the outdated premise that girls lose something with sex, boys gain something. And that girls never really are able to consent or enjoy sex (they give in) and men are the active agents forcing it on these poor ladies.
Medieval nonsense. Either 17 is old enough to consent or it isn't. No gender-differences ought to apply.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)You two are the one's who are asking about the girls.
You want to know about the girls -you ask the question!
I just want to get an answer about boys.
It doesn't matter if you get one answer for each sex.
I don't think you can use one as an example of the other since we're raised differently. Getting an answer for each sex may show that the two overlap somewhere but it's not my desire to hear a lecture about dual standards. You want to ramble on about girls and whatever - go right ahead - but it doesn't answer my question.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)They should apply equally, regardless of teenage boy fantasies. Goose and Gander if you will.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Dude, that old enough to be your mother!!!
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)I lusted after teachers and friend's mothers.
I'm just disappointed nobody offered
and I don't think I would have felt badly
So....I wonder why they prosecute women for doing this.
Simple question - just asking...
sadbear
(4,340 posts)But after a few years, my attention became more, ummm, focused. At 17, 40-somethings didn't even show up on the radar.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)They're "kids" to me now. My wife, on the other hand, is a hot fox.
DollarBillHines
(1,922 posts)In my teens, I used to fool around with much older women (young ones, too).
I never thought I would lose interest in young women, but I did.
A few weeks ago, I had three 20-something German lesbians staying at my house during their travels thru the US.
Thirty years ago, I would not have been able to sleep just thinking about the potential of the situation.
Now, at 60, I was asleep before they even went to bed. I actually read the paper, pool-side, as they frolicked.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)My daughters are all in that range. They're admittedly cute and attractive, but even if they weren't my own I wouldn't be interested. There's a reason we age.
4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)For whatever reason we don't really consider this a crime.
Reverse the genders and the internet lynch mobs would be forming (he cheated on his wife with some child!??!?!?).
But as is. Meh.
raccoon
(31,091 posts)yellowcanine
(35,692 posts)It could happen.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Hmmm.....