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Baitball Blogger

(46,575 posts)
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:11 PM Sep 2012

Christian school secretary accused of sex with student



Authorities in Polk County arrested a 41-year-old Haines City woman on Monday, accused of repeatedly having sex with an underage student at the Christian school where she worked as a secretary.

Trina Rocker, a married secretary at Landmark Christian School, faces five counts of unlawful sex with certain minors.

uthorities say the sexual activity began in November and continued until the victim, a 17-year-old Landmark Christian student, graduated in May.

The victim's parents reported Rocker to the Sheriff's Office after finding out about the sexual activity, deputies say, which occurred in her vehicle, at her house and on a senior trip to Washington, D.C., which Rocker chaperoned

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-landmark-christian-student-sex-20120926,0,6115416.story
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Christian school secretary accused of sex with student (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Sep 2012 OP
They really need to find out the effects... socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #1
Whenever there's an huge imbalance of power... BanzaiBonnie Sep 2012 #2
Percieved imbalance of power... socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #3
If he's raised in a strict Christian family, Baitball Blogger Sep 2012 #6
I thought discussion is the point of the forum? socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #8
Speaking as someone who was raised in a moderate practicing Catholic family, Baitball Blogger Sep 2012 #12
At that age the only imbalance in power I was aware of postulater Sep 2012 #4
I called that "letting the little head do the thinking", but what she did is still wrong. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #7
But that's just a law someone made up a long time ago socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #10
Personally I don't think there's a difference. It swings both ways. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #15
I'm only interested in whether the boys socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #17
I still see your point, but it's predatory regardless of gender. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #18
Should the same be asked of girls? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #21
I went out with a 30 year old guy when I was 15 -- and by "went out" I mean we had sex -- and gateley Sep 2012 #27
Apparently if you'd been a boy (and the 30 year old a woman) that would have been AWESOME! 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #30
I know whnen I was in school, if a female teacher wanted to have sex with me mangermerdeRWfreaks Sep 2012 #22
My wife's a teacher. She's hot. I doubt any of her students are a problem - they're 5. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #23
So we should protect the chastity and dignity of young girls 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #11
That's pretty much exactly the point I've been trying to make. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #19
Which is why you've missing my question! socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #25
I still think we're on the same page. Gender isn't relevant. The rules are the rules. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #28
41? sadbear Sep 2012 #5
You haven't lusted after a friend's mother? socialindependocrat Sep 2012 #14
When I hit puberty, I lusted after EVERY woman. sadbear Sep 2012 #16
Ironically, 40-somethings DID appeal to me. Now I've got a 49 year old and 18 year olds don't. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #20
Pretty much the same, here DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #26
Like I said, that age says "child" to me now, despite being of legal age. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #29
So I'm guessing a few months probation 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #9
I am shocked--shocked, that a Christian school secretary would do such a thing.nt raccoon Sep 2012 #13
Be fair. Maybe she was tutoring him about abstinence and things just got out of hand. yellowcanine Sep 2012 #24
I see the link in the OP has been updated with a pic of the "suspect". sadbear Sep 2012 #31

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
1. They really need to find out the effects...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:32 PM
Sep 2012

I can understand the shame and betrayal that young girls may feel when they have an affair with an older man.

But I would rather suspect that this is not the same with a young male....

Someone needs to talk to a grown male who has had this experience and see if there are lasting effects or if they just have the best dreams and that feeling of pride and satisfaction you feel when you think you've scored the big time!

Really people, I've seen stories of young boys being pleasured by a teacher or older woman in the neighborhood and these guys are lining up waiting their turn. They aren't coerced or manipulated...
we'll actually they are but in a good way.

Just because there's a law doesn't mean it's right!

Let's get real!

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
3. Percieved imbalance of power...
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 01:54 PM
Sep 2012

Does the boy feel he is being used by his teacher

or does he feel he has the power over his sexual partner?

Anyone want to fess up to having an experience like this
in your younger years and how you feel about it now?

Baitball Blogger

(46,575 posts)
6. If he's raised in a strict Christian family,
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:17 PM
Sep 2012

there may be struggles with his moral conscience later in life. I don't think you should be using him on your behalf, to push your issue.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
8. I thought discussion is the point of the forum?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:42 PM
Sep 2012

So you are saying that a strict religious upbringing may cause a yout (as Vinnie would say) to have problems expressing his sexuality.

Baitball Blogger

(46,575 posts)
12. Speaking as someone who was raised in a moderate practicing Catholic family,
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:47 PM
Sep 2012

yes, there are residual effects that sometimes aid, and sometimes hinder your development, depending on the environment you grow up in.

You spoke your mind, and so did I. That's called discussion.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
4. At that age the only imbalance in power I was aware of
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:08 PM
Sep 2012

was the one between my head and my dick.

And my head didn't win very often.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
7. I called that "letting the little head do the thinking", but what she did is still wrong.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012

I'm a guy and yes I lusted after a few older teachers (although to be fair, they were probably only 25 or so), but it's just as much a crime with either gender on either side. It's still statutory rape.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
10. But that's just a law someone made up a long time ago
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:45 PM
Sep 2012

I'm trying to find out if there is a real problem with how young boys feel about having sex with older women.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
15. Personally I don't think there's a difference. It swings both ways.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 03:18 PM
Sep 2012

And yes, the statutory laws are old and vary by state, but a 24 year difference (more than the age of the child) is really pushing it no matter how you think about it. Yeah, okay, most high school boys want some pussy. STOP THE PRESS! Even if the kid was fully cooperative, willing, and appreciative, how is that different from a 17 year old girl lusting after and getting a 41 year old male teacher? It's still a breach of trust and against the law in every state, despite their differences at the 18 year old boundary. That's true with same-sex molestation as well. It's one of those situations everyone should just look at and think, "that's just so wrong."



socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
17. I'm only interested in whether the boys
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:11 PM
Sep 2012

feel good or bad about it later...

I'm a guy and I think it's nuts to punish a woman
for a relationship or affair with a younger person.

I just see this poor kid going to testify in court and spewing all the things in court his mother told him to say.

When you were young (you may still be young)

start over...

When I was young Sophia Loren was a lot older that I was
but I wouldn't have thought, for one minute, about turning
down an opportunity, if offered.

I'm just trying to see if others agree that taboos that are made up by older people about what young boys have a legal right to do or not do is stupid - in this case. they just arrest the woman and the kid has no say. It's always the mother that finds out and calls the police because "her little boy" has been violated.

Does the kid suffer mental trauma or is he proud as a peacock?

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
21. Should the same be asked of girls?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:27 PM
Sep 2012

It is physically possible for a 17 year old female to enjoy having sex with an older male and not suffer permanent trauma.


I'm just trying to see if others agree that taboos that are made up by older people about what young boys have a legal right to do or not do is stupid - in this case. they just arrest the woman and the kid has no say. It's always the mother that finds out and calls the police because "her little boy" has been violated.


Flip the genders around and you'd have no problem with it. Try "she probably loved it" the next time a 40 year old guy has sex with a 17 year old girl. See what response you get.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
27. I went out with a 30 year old guy when I was 15 -- and by "went out" I mean we had sex -- and
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:23 PM
Sep 2012

I didn't suffer a bit.

I think it probably depends on the individual and the circumstance.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
30. Apparently if you'd been a boy (and the 30 year old a woman) that would have been AWESOME!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:15 AM
Sep 2012

But since you were a girl you couldn't really decide such things for yourself and should have been protected from such predatory men. Also the experience was really traumatic and horrible.

/I'm amazed to see such sentiments expressed here.

 
22. I know whnen I was in school, if a female teacher wanted to have sex with me
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:33 PM
Sep 2012

I would not have complained, neither would most of my friends.

Some my teachers were hot or at least I thought so in my young twisted hot for teacher mind.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
11. So we should protect the chastity and dignity of young girls
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:46 PM
Sep 2012

but not young boys?


Really people, I've seen stories of young boys being pleasured by a teacher or older woman in the neighborhood and these guys are lining up waiting their turn. They aren't coerced or manipulated...


There are 17 year old girls who would have consensual (although statutory) sex with a 41 year old.

This is all based on the outdated premise that girls lose something with sex, boys gain something. And that girls never really are able to consent or enjoy sex (they give in) and men are the active agents forcing it on these poor ladies.

Medieval nonsense. Either 17 is old enough to consent or it isn't. No gender-differences ought to apply.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
25. Which is why you've missing my question!
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:04 PM
Sep 2012

You two are the one's who are asking about the girls.

You want to know about the girls -you ask the question!

I just want to get an answer about boys.

It doesn't matter if you get one answer for each sex.
I don't think you can use one as an example of the other since we're raised differently. Getting an answer for each sex may show that the two overlap somewhere but it's not my desire to hear a lecture about dual standards. You want to ramble on about girls and whatever - go right ahead - but it doesn't answer my question.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
28. I still think we're on the same page. Gender isn't relevant. The rules are the rules.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

They should apply equally, regardless of teenage boy fantasies. Goose and Gander if you will.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
14. You haven't lusted after a friend's mother?
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:49 PM
Sep 2012

I lusted after teachers and friend's mothers.

I'm just disappointed nobody offered
and I don't think I would have felt badly
So....I wonder why they prosecute women for doing this.

Simple question - just asking...

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
16. When I hit puberty, I lusted after EVERY woman.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:07 PM
Sep 2012


But after a few years, my attention became more, ummm, focused. At 17, 40-somethings didn't even show up on the radar.
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
20. Ironically, 40-somethings DID appeal to me. Now I've got a 49 year old and 18 year olds don't.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 04:24 PM
Sep 2012

They're "kids" to me now. My wife, on the other hand, is a hot fox.

DollarBillHines

(1,922 posts)
26. Pretty much the same, here
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sep 2012

In my teens, I used to fool around with much older women (young ones, too).

I never thought I would lose interest in young women, but I did.

A few weeks ago, I had three 20-something German lesbians staying at my house during their travels thru the US.

Thirty years ago, I would not have been able to sleep just thinking about the potential of the situation.

Now, at 60, I was asleep before they even went to bed. I actually read the paper, pool-side, as they frolicked.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
29. Like I said, that age says "child" to me now, despite being of legal age.
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 06:27 PM
Sep 2012

My daughters are all in that range. They're admittedly cute and attractive, but even if they weren't my own I wouldn't be interested. There's a reason we age.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
9. So I'm guessing a few months probation
Wed Sep 26, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

For whatever reason we don't really consider this a crime.

Reverse the genders and the internet lynch mobs would be forming (he cheated on his wife with some child!??!?!?).

But as is. Meh.

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