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4 more years of Obama and then 4 years of Chris Christie and a Dem in 2020 ? (Original Post) JI7 Jan 2012 OP
I think it sounds like crap. tridim Jan 2012 #1
Agreed! freshstart Jan 2012 #5
Agreed. A better scenario: Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley in 2016 JaneQPublic Jan 2012 #20
Christie has a 24% approval rating in New Jersey. His weight and the resulting bad health he had roguevalley Jan 2012 #27
I think you need to step away from the talking points. gkhouston Jan 2012 #2
four more years of Obama.... unkachuck Jan 2012 #3
no...4 more years of Obama where he finally gets the country Roselma Jan 2012 #4
he was able to win in a Blue State though it might have had more to do with vote against Corzine JI7 Jan 2012 #7
Elizabeth Warren will be no way ready to run in 2016. Her resume` will still be too thin. Tx4obama Jan 2012 #22
Just saw CNN talking up the Obama / Clinton ticket and setting Hillary up to run for 2016 think Jan 2012 #36
I can't believe folks at still pushing that meme and still rumor-mongering on TV and blogs Tx4obama Jan 2012 #37
Chris Christie likes to verbally slap women around. CTyankee Jan 2012 #31
How about Obama gets 4 more years in office and Christie gets 4 years in prison? Liberal Veteran Jan 2012 #6
Christie will NEVER be elected president of this nation. Bank that. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #8
Yep. nt onehandle Jan 2012 #18
It seemed like Christie Charlemagne Jan 2012 #9
Isn't Christie unpopular in his own state? GoCubsGo Jan 2012 #10
What is the norm for appr. rating in NJ? Charlemagne Jan 2012 #12
Jeb Renew Deal Jan 2012 #11
Will people go for that? Charlemagne Jan 2012 #14
There are some ugly skeletons in that closet. stevenleser Jan 2012 #21
Obama will probably get four more RZM Jan 2012 #13
Cristie AC_Mem Jan 2012 #17
He'll need something if he wants to stay viable RZM Jan 2012 #19
Far more likely to be Huntsman n/t Sheepshank Jan 2012 #15
But the GOP base isnt the slightest bit interested in him. stevenleser Jan 2012 #35
Definitely Obama will get 4 more years. But there is no way pacalo Jan 2012 #16
maybe Christie will adopt the Sweater Vests to soften up his image JI7 Jan 2012 #23
I have a joke for that but I'd better keep it to myself. pacalo Jan 2012 #29
Does it involve James Spader and "neck holes"? tridim Jan 2012 #32
yes to the first, no to the second, yes to the third fishwax Jan 2012 #24
No way! 4 more Obama, 8 Elizabeth Warren maybe even 4 Hillary in there so Welibs Jan 2012 #25
Why? LiberalAndProud Jan 2012 #26
Obama will win in 2012. boxman15 Jan 2012 #28
Let's see how Gabby Giffords is doing in 2016. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #30
Why do people think Christ Christie is going to be president? WI_DEM Jan 2012 #33
If Christie's a lucky man, he'll be in cardiac rehab before then, Greybnk48 Jan 2012 #34

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
27. Christie has a 24% approval rating in New Jersey. His weight and the resulting bad health he had
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:15 AM
Jan 2012

will kill him before that. Look at his face. There is illness there. Christie is a pipe dream that cannot hold up to scrutiny and he is a fat mouthed abuser of people. Also, I think he's crooked too. He's a pipe dream.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
2. I think you need to step away from the talking points.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jan 2012

I can't think of any reason to assume the 2016 election has been decided, much less in favor of that brain dead bone stupid gasbag.

Now, as for my unvarnished opinion...

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
3. four more years of Obama....
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jan 2012

....is a long time for fat-man and his fat heart to wait....things might happen....

Roselma

(540 posts)
4. no...4 more years of Obama where he finally gets the country
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:02 AM
Jan 2012

on his feet, followed by 4 or 8 years of Elizabeth Warren. Chris Christie is too nasty to appeal to decent people.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
7. he was able to win in a Blue State though it might have had more to do with vote against Corzine
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jan 2012

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
22. Elizabeth Warren will be no way ready to run in 2016. Her resume` will still be too thin.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:56 AM
Jan 2012

Other than having a law degree and teaching law - basically her only experience has been with financial issues.
Even now as she is running for The U.S. Senate we had not heard how stands on the majority of 'other' issues - basically she's only publicly spoken on financial/economy related issues.

Don't get me wrong, I think Warren is great! But she would not be ready to run in 2016.



 

think

(11,641 posts)
36. Just saw CNN talking up the Obama / Clinton ticket and setting Hillary up to run for 2016
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:08 PM
Jan 2012

Obviously just the rumor mill but lot's of rumors in this regards as of late...

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
37. I can't believe folks at still pushing that meme and still rumor-mongering on TV and blogs
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jan 2012

Hillary has publicly stated that she will NOT run for public office again in the future.
She wants to retire and focus on women's issues globally and also be able to spend time with grand-babies when they arrive.

p.s. And months ago President Obama asked VP Joe Biden to run on the 2012 ticket with him and Biden said 'YES'.

CTyankee

(63,902 posts)
31. Chris Christie likes to verbally slap women around.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:31 AM
Jan 2012

He's like a modern version of Ralph Kramden bellowing "To the moon, Alice!" while brandishing his fist at her in stark rage.

That Christie does it with sarcasm ain't any better. We see the anger seething beneath the snideness. The fact that he is physically large makes him look more menacing, kind of like the wifekiller Raymond Burr played in "Rear Window." Really chilling...

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
6. How about Obama gets 4 more years in office and Christie gets 4 years in prison?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jan 2012

Do we have a deal?

(Not that I am really aware of anything criminal Christie has done, but it seems like one doesn't have to do more than scratch the surface to find a corrupt republican.)

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
8. Christie will NEVER be elected president of this nation. Bank that.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jan 2012

His appeal is next to nil outside his niche.

 

Charlemagne

(576 posts)
9. It seemed like Christie
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:11 AM
Jan 2012

Didnt want to run because

1. He knew he wouldnt win against Obama

2. The economy isnt going to get better that quick so why take control and get blamed for a sluggish economy.


Yeah I think he is waiting until the next rodeo.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
10. Isn't Christie unpopular in his own state?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012

I recall reading that his approval ratings are in 20-30% range. Four years should be plenty of time for the rest of the country to find out just why his own state doesn't like him. Plenty of time for more dirt to be found under his carpet, too.

 

Charlemagne

(576 posts)
12. What is the norm for appr. rating in NJ?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jan 2012

Seems like that would be a hard place to govern.

oh, and BTW....looks like you guys and the my Redlegs will be battling it out for the NL central this season.

 

Charlemagne

(576 posts)
14. Will people go for that?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:18 AM
Jan 2012

Or will they still have the taste of saltwater and vinegar in their mouths from shrub? HW Bush said the 'the country didnt want another bush (or something to that effect)" in 2007/8.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. There are some ugly skeletons in that closet.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jan 2012

- Wife spending sprees overseas and then not declaring them upon re-entering the country (and got caught)

- Affairs.

- Children with drug problems that were treated with heavy hands to make an example of them while people like Limbaugh and others got off scott free.

etc.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
13. Obama will probably get four more
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:16 AM
Jan 2012

But it's anybody's guess what the landscape will look like in 2016. It's already quite different from that of 2008. After eight years of one party, people are often ready for a change, so that might bode well for the Republicans in 2016. But you never know. I doubt it will be Christie though. If the Republican climate is anything like what it is today, he would have an uphill battle for the nomination.

In fact, it's an open question what Christie could do in politics once he's done being governor. A failed presidential run and he's back to the private sector.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
19. He'll need something if he wants to stay viable
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:29 AM
Jan 2012

Because I don't see a House or Senate run in his future.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
35. But the GOP base isnt the slightest bit interested in him.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jan 2012

Huntsman would be a threat if nominated. That's the problem. He cannot get there.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
16. Definitely Obama will get 4 more years. But there is no way
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jan 2012

someone who relates to adversaries so bluntly & hatefully will ever get the votes needed for a presidency. Christie is at the top of his ladder of power as a governor. He'll never get higher-positioned on a national level due to his autonomous, partisan style of leadership.

 

Welibs

(188 posts)
25. No way! 4 more Obama, 8 Elizabeth Warren maybe even 4 Hillary in there so
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:36 AM
Jan 2012

Warren gets more experience in 8 years rather than 4.

Anyone that is alive, working, going to school, gets SS/Med, welfare, any kind of assistance, has health care etc, will never forget what Repubilcans have done these last 11 years. I think they're done. They have crossed the line too many times into seditious behaviour.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
26. Why?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 01:39 AM
Jan 2012

We have had enough of the Republican poison in the White House already during my lifetime. To concede 4 years again is unacceptable. That's what I think of it.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
28. Obama will win in 2012.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:18 AM
Jan 2012

2016 is up for grabs, though. It has to do with whether or not the Obama administration is able to sell the Democratic brand from here on out.

MilesColtrane

(18,678 posts)
30. Let's see how Gabby Giffords is doing in 2016.
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 02:26 AM
Jan 2012

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Unrealistic?

I would have thought her attending the one-year anniversary memorial service was unrealistic a year ago.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
33. Why do people think Christ Christie is going to be president?
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:32 AM
Jan 2012

he is nothing but a bully and big mouth. And yes, it is not politically correct, but his weight will turn off many voters, too. (I say this as someone with a weight problem).

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
34. If Christie's a lucky man, he'll be in cardiac rehab before then,
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jan 2012

rather than "gone." That guy's in very poor health, at least he's not healthy enough for the rigors of a Presidency.

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