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Ferret Annica

(1,701 posts)
1. That may be so, but his signing into law of indefinate detention of detainees that are citizens
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 10:44 PM
Jan 2012

extending a version of extraordinary rendition -- that Bush inspired sort of fascist kidnapping that ignores habeas corpus and other crucial elements to making our legal system fair means I regret voting and working for him on the grass roots level the last election.

I am voting third party and am proud to be a Pacific Green party member. I am very angry and disdainful of Obama. I have no use for the man.

ingac70

(7,947 posts)
2. ....
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

(e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS-
The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

 

Ferret Annica

(1,701 posts)
4. Watch this young turks piece and see how those parced words you posted have a different meaning..
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jan 2012

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...than you would think. You need to wake up and smell the coffee. I repeat; I have zero use for President Obama.
 

Ferret Annica

(1,701 posts)
5. You mean that as a joke in a tongue in cheek way; but as an activist, I have no doubt...
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jan 2012

... this crappy Bush-like measure Obama signed into law could indeed cost me dearly in just that way.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
16. Then you might want to cover your tracks ... after all, this entire site could be ...
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 09:23 AM
Jan 2012

Obama's attempt to find you.



 

LoZoccolo

(29,393 posts)
7. :|
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jan 2012
REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

YOUR COMMENTS:

Per the terms of service checkbox, "this post shows that the author does not vote for Democrats".

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Sun Jan 8, 2012, 09:59 PM, and voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: DU has permitted Green Party members to participate in the past. The poster's refusal to support Obama does not mean that he/she wouldn't vote for another Democrat.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Poster's need to go use someone else's bandwidth to push their third party bullshit.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Disagrees strongly with OP, but not rude.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: OK to voice objections to the policies and actions of the POTUS, but not to advocate for third parties.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: this post states the poster's opinion and future intention - it may not be in line with my opinions, but we are not here to censure opinions - free speech and all that

Thank you.

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
11. Boy, I remember when the jury pool was trumpeted as a way of silencing Greens and Progressives
Sun Jan 8, 2012, 11:25 PM
Jan 2012

Now they are allowed to openly advocate without any consequences. Oh well. I'm sure the GOP will help them further their goals.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
14. So why hang out on a Dem board if you have no intention of voting Dem....
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 12:25 AM
Jan 2012

and actively spout support for another party?

All for pathetically repeated incorrect memes. What a freaking joke.

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