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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe other day I got into a little discussion with a GW denier.
He said, "A few years ago they said it was all going to freeze over; now they're saying it's gonna get too hot. Hyuk-hyuk. Stupid scientists."
I said,
"You remind me of this guy whose mechanic told him he had to watch his oil level or his engine would seize up. He refused to put oil in his car, and a while later his engine overheated and caught on fire. He went back to the mechanic and said, 'You dumb shit. What are you, the world's stupidest mechanic? You said my engine would seize if I didn't put oil in it. Well, dumbfuck, it didn't seize up at all. It was still turning just fine when it caught on fire!'"
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)GMTA
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)And I skipped over it the first time I saw it because of that.
Funny how great minds think! (Kidding - kinda, sorta -hehe.)
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Global warming is one trip to the store at a time, times a billion. One vacation flight at a time, times a hundred million. One new Olympic village every couple of years.
The opposite of growth is what is needed, since growth is what got us here. Less, not more.
Most people will argue with this.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)This is one issue that I have with Liberals, they don't hit dumbfuck right-wingers in the mouth with analogies those assholes can understand. The fact is whether we die by freezing, drowning or having a tree fall on us during a vicious hurricane or tornado, global warming led to all of the causes of death.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)but even shoving his head under water won't make him drink if he refuses to.
mikki35
(111 posts)What good is THAT gonna do? Some of these people are so delusional they have come up with 'Creationism' to try to mangle their square peg into what can only be a round hole. Reality alert: They will not believe no matter WHAT you say! A whole bunch of others KNOW all about it and don't care! The ONLY thing they care about is getting all they can get - and YOU and your pansy concerns about the environment are NOT gonna get between them and their money. Now, tell me, what good would it do to try to use concepts like 'reason' or 'logic' with THIS? The ONLY things that would convince them would be (1) God's voice from on high: "HEY, .....DUMBASSES!!!!!!! YES, YOU!!!! I GAVE YOU THIS WORLD! YOU'RE MESSING IT UP! STOP IT! NOWWWWWWWW!" for group 1; and (2) stealing all their money and whatever they're doing to make it and telling them they'll never see it again until they stop it.
Personally, I'm not seeing much reality in either of those scenarios. But it sure would be a peck of fun, wouldn't it? LOL!
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,614 posts)He told me he thought back then it just meant it was time to change the oil, so he ignored the warning. What it meant of course was that he was critically low on oil and the engine eventually became a smoking solid block of iron at the side of the road. This friend was a recent college grad at the time with a degree in business management.
The point of this true story is that this otherwise intelligent man was willfully ignorant of the warning signs of impending disaster, and it cost him irreparable damage. We can't send our planet to the scrapyard for recycling and buy a new model in a different color.
The difference between him and climate change deniers is that if he consulted a professional about the warning light he would have believed him and taken steps to prevent disaster.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)NickB79
(19,222 posts)Who said that? Is he referring to the 1970's Time magazine scare article that claimed global cooling was just around the corner? Because scientists have studied the peer-reviewed data from the time: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2008-02-20-global-cooling_N.htm
The '70s was an unusually cold decade. Newsweek, Time, The New York Times and National Geographic published articles at the time speculating on the causes of the unusual cold and about the possibility of a new ice age.
But Thomas Peterson of the National Climatic Data Center surveyed dozens of peer-reviewed scientific articles from 1965 to 1979 and found that only seven supported global cooling, while 44 predicted warming. Peterson says 20 others were neutral in their assessments of climate trends.
The study reports, "There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the Earth was headed into an imminent ice age.
So, even in the 1970's, almost 7 TIMES as many scientific studies were predicting global warming over global cooling.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)what I understand is, the planet, sooner or later, will recover, we will not. With no more destructive human emissions our planet will breath a sigh of relief like my lungs did when I finally quit smoking. There are two sides out there as to recovery, as usual. I try to be hopeful something will survive our onslaught.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this has been the worst fire season I remember...
And one fire season does not a pattern make, but the science does predict more of this crap.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)I have plenty of articles from the last "few years" some from the early eighties, all telling exactly the same thing the wide majority of the world's scientists are saying right now. Warning of exactly what's already happening.
This is the biggest shame to me, that so many of my fellow citizens don't care about the future, This is why I'm glad my life is half over and pity the babies I see. I'm horrified at anyone giving the year 2100 to innocent little people. I'm horrified at what *I'll have to witness before I'm gone, especially with so many people around me living in denial, well as long as they have food and water anyway.