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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:55 AM

"Obama campaign is out with a brutal new ad in Ohio"

The Morning Plum: Romney following Axelrod’s script to the letter

By Greg Sargent

For a year now, Obama advisers have believed that Mitt Romney’s pedigree, business background, lower tax rates, offshore accounts and silver-foot-in-mouth tendencies present exactly the wrong profile to run up the vote totals he needs among blue collar whites to win the presidency, potentially enabling Obama to survive a terrible economy. Back when Romney was still locked in a battle with Rick Perry, Obama advisers were telling people about their plans to paint Romney as a corporate predator who prioritizes profits over jobs and communities, is out of touch with what ordinary folks are going through, thinks keeping taxes low on the rich is the answer to everyone’s problems, and keeps his own rates low via murky international financial dealings.

What’s remarkable is how closely Romney himself has voluntarily hewed to the script produced for him.

On Friday, Romney released his 2011 tax returns, but only revealed an average rate paid from 1990-2009. Even some Republican strategists are questioning this move, as well as his broader refusal not to come clean earlier, claiming it allows Dems to continue raising questions about Romney’s offshore accounts and about what he may be hiding about his own low rate. Romney’s dismissive comments about the freeloading 47 percent were perfectly tailored to the narrative the Obama camp has been spinning. And now the Obama campaign is out with a brutal new ad in Ohio, which has a big population of blue collar whites, weaving those strands together:



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-morning-plum-romney-following-axelrods-script-to-the-letter/2012/09/24/c6ea19a0-0632-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html

Ouch!

Bill Kristol: Obama Has Turned Around The Financial Meltdown ‘Pretty Well’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021401113

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ProSense Sep 2012 OP
Jim__ Sep 2012 #1
liberalmike27 Sep 2012 #21
JDPriestly Sep 2012 #29
mikki35 Sep 2012 #31
jsr Sep 2012 #2
Spazito Sep 2012 #3
99Forever Sep 2012 #4
woolldog Sep 2012 #5
AzDar Sep 2012 #6
Aldo Leopold Sep 2012 #7
loudsue Sep 2012 #8
ProSense Sep 2012 #9
loudsue Sep 2012 #12
Brigid Sep 2012 #10
JohnnyK Sep 2012 #46
Coyotl Sep 2012 #11
virgdem Sep 2012 #13
Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #14
Voice for Peace Sep 2012 #15
Zorra Sep 2012 #16
goclark Sep 2012 #17
samsingh Sep 2012 #18
INdemo Sep 2012 #19
zorro1 Sep 2012 #20
nolabear Sep 2012 #22
Uncle Joe Sep 2012 #23
DCBob Sep 2012 #24
valerief Sep 2012 #25
mnhtnbb Sep 2012 #26
desertduck Sep 2012 #27
highplainsdem Sep 2012 #28
ChoppinBroccoli Sep 2012 #30
johnlucas Sep 2012 #43
Bette Noir Sep 2012 #32
XemaSab Sep 2012 #33
Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #39
kalli007 Sep 2012 #40
freshwest Sep 2012 #34
marble falls Sep 2012 #35
Cha Sep 2012 #36
Drahthaardogs Sep 2012 #37
RBInMaine Sep 2012 #38
geckosfeet Sep 2012 #41
johnlucas Sep 2012 #42
Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #44
peacebird Sep 2012 #45
hifiguy Sep 2012 #47

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:14 AM

1. Great ad!

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:17 PM

21. I still say

This "show me your tax returns" is missing the point.

The question should be "Should Mitt, and others in the financial community be able to pay such an incredibly low rate? Even SS recipients pay 15% with employers' contribution, considered part of the employees' wages. Add onto that, federal, state, property, utility, sales, and gas, and a few others, you've got regular wage people paying huge sums by comparison?

And should tax-evasion be ignored? Sure, I guess it's technically illegal. But should our government NOT make this avoidance scheme, and others, illegal?

I'd add, should people be able to avoid taxes just by giving to charity. If you are giving just to get tax cuts, when our country desperately needs them, then what is so great about giving to charity, as you are just giving to yourself.

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Response to liberalmike27 (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:57 PM

29. Don't worry. The professionals and small-business taxpayers are getting the message.

They know what rate they pay. And they know what their marginal rate is.

Romney should be paying the same high, marginal rate on his income, whether it be from capital gains or from earned income, that they pay. They are getting the message. It's loud and clear.

I've talked to a couple of them.

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Response to liberalmike27 (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:05 PM

31. Charity deductions

I can't say that people giving to charity is a bad thing - that would be ridiculous!! Charities are ostensibly there to help those that need it most, those that are falling through the cracks, etc. The only problem I have is when people give to what is SUPPOSED to be charities that are NOT - like the Mormon church. They are faaarrrrrrr from acting like a charity. Even the stuff that is given to the poor in other countries is given with a recruitment drive sort of thing. Plus, huge chunks of donations are being used to fund all kinds of commercial business ventures that are WAYYYYYYYYY outside the realm of what is supposed to be tax-free church business.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:16 AM

2. Outstanding

Hard hitting. Well done!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:18 AM

3. Excellent ad! Ties together the aspects of Romney that are noxious...

in an succinct way.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:22 AM

4. More of this.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:32 AM

5. love it!

one of the best most hard hitting ads I've seen this election.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:33 AM

6. Perfect.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:42 AM

7. Very succinct, just the right tone.

I agree: more of this!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:52 AM

8. This ad misses one major point that should have been the centerpiece of the ad:

That he's the ONLY presidential candidate in ....howevermany years....that has REFUSED to release his tax records, and they need to suggest that he has something to hide, because most of us KNOW he has something to hide.

I'm glad some journalists are finally hitting hard on what DUers figured out from the git-go: That RMoney benefitted from the amnesty allowed to those who were sheltering income overseas so they didn't have to pay taxes in the US.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:59 AM

9. The other ad covers that:

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Response to ProSense (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:09 AM

12. Thanks, Pro....I hadn't seen that one!

It's good!

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Response to loudsue (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:02 AM

10. They can only put so much in one ad.

I agree with you, though. Maybe there will be another ad on that.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 09:37 AM

46. Your 'centerpiece' statement is not true...

"he's the ONLY presidential candidate in ....howevermany years....that has REFUSED to release his tax records"

That is untrue, loudsue. Mitt released two years worth of tax returns. How does that become refusing to release his tax records? Romney released the same amount as John McCain did in 2008, two years. Obama didn't have a problem with McCain, but he does with Romney. I'm voting for Obama, but I'm just sayin'.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:04 AM

11. One Word: DEVASTATING

Another Word: LANDSLIDE

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:11 AM

13. Great ad...

short, sweet, and to the point!!!!!!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:23 AM

14. Now that's getting down to brass tacks!

Thanks for sharing this ad with us.
Nobody is running any kind of ads here, so I have no idea what is being said on tv in the battleground states.

Last week I got a robocall that said Romney's supporters were starting a petition to stop President Obama from giving the terrorists who attacked our embassies in the Middle East any more money, after they said that President Obama had given them $1.5 Billion dollars of our taxpayer dollars to attack our embassies.

It was totally Twilight Zone shit.
I have never been robocalled by the Republicans ever before.
I don't know how they got my phone number.

So, when I heard that phone message, I almost called Ed Schultz to complain about it.
So, he could talk about how low the Romney campaign has gone in their efforts this year to trash the President of the United States.
But, I figured that people like Ed, Rachel, and Lawrence have already heard about those kinds of calls from Romney's supporters.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:43 AM

15. ok... this is it. they are seriously going for this!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:46 AM

16. Poor Willard is sooo out of his league.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:46 AM

17. Perfect! Kick

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 11:57 AM

18. well put and accurate.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:15 PM

19. Another ad could also serve to drive this point even farther

in answer to the Rmoney ad which claims Obama soft on China,jobs...
The point is how Obama has lost so many jobs...well the fact is Rmoney outsourced more jobs to China through Bain than Bush created...
..But this ad about the 47% is an out of the park...

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:17 PM

20. Always seems to hurt more when it's true!

Man that seems below the belt but it's the truth! How does he even get out of bed in the morning? We've all said stupid things and most of us are quick to realize it was a mistake and apologize but this guy is running with it. He really doesn't get what a fool he sounds like to real people. Oh well, thanks GOP.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:21 PM

22. Perfect, professional response to the Romney irresponsibility.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:26 PM

23. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ProSense.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:41 PM

24. Excellent. Its good they are not letting up on the tax returns.

That reasonates with even the low info voters.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:41 PM

25. You know what ad I'd like to see on cable teevee?

People who've been trashed by the depression and banks and insurance companies state briefly how they've been adversely affected and they end with the punchline, "You Republican politicians are assholes."

Over and over. "You Republican politicians are assholes."

I don't care that it would put the RW propaganda machine into a frenzy. That line--"You Republican politicians are assholes."--can only ring true to the 99%, Republican voters included.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:52 PM

26. Great ad.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:54 PM

27. Point WELL made! I just love that there is an actual video of him saying these asinine things. /nt

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:56 PM

28. Perfect ad!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 01:00 PM

30. The Ref Should Call The Fight After That Haymaker

I live in Ohio and haven't seen that one yet. I bet there won't be many undecideds left after that one starts airing.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Reply #30)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:21 AM

43. Damn right!

That was a Tiger Uppercut from Sagat on Romney.
Might as well say a Shoryuken from Ryu & Ken at the same time!

For Killer Instinct fans, a Combo Breaker leading into a Ultra Combo from TJ Combo.
John Lucas

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:21 PM

32. Um, the Romney quote is out of context.

The "My job is not to worry about those people" clearly refers to trying to get their votes, not looking out for them after the election. This sort of thing just gives ammunition to the folks who want to say, "They all do it."

When the truth is bad enough (and the truth here is that he implied that all Obama voters are welfare recipients of some sort), there's no need to lie.

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Response to Bette Noir (Reply #32)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 02:26 PM

33. I think it's perfectly in context

The next line is something like "I can never convince them to take responsibility for their lives."

He's not just talking about their votes there.

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Response to Bette Noir (Reply #32)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:34 PM

39. I was told that was taken out of context too.

So I sent the entire video to that wingnut who took that stand. Today I asked him for comments, and he didn't want to talk about it.

I wonder why? It is because it is not out of context----and there is so much damning in that video that there is no way to defend it.

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Response to Bette Noir (Reply #32)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:46 PM

40. I don't think it's out of context, but even if it IS

He is still staying he only cares for the votes of a certain segment of the population. What if Obama went around saying his "job" was only to care about the black vote, or the white vote, or the young vote-- or any category?


If your perception is the correct one, is his saying he only cares about the votes of certain people any better?

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 04:09 PM

34. They are going to have to hit hard to overcome the OH SoS voter purging and the 1.5m DVDs sent there

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 04:28 PM

35. That's nor brutal, that's just common sense.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 05:50 PM

36. I don't see how it can be call "spinning" when

all the facts are out there on mitt except, of course, the stuff he's hidden and shredded.

Good Ad! Thanks for the report, ProSense!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 06:05 PM

37. THAT's gonna leave a mark!

Good for our President. Screw Romney and the Rafalca he rode in on.

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:04 PM

38. AWESOME AD ! PLAY IT EVERYWHERE ! BEST ONE SO FAR ! SLAM THE CRAP OUT OF THE MittTwit !

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:55 PM

41. zing - the r0mnbot has been skewered

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:18 AM

42. Romney, it's OVER

It's over, cat.
Hang it up.

September Surprise has a better ring to it than October.
I say call October the October Overkill.
'Cause I don't see nowhere Romney can go but down over the next few weeks to Election Day.

This cat is SO done!
John Lucas

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 01:01 AM

44. Great ad. nt

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:21 AM

45. We saw that ad a couple times last night in Virginia too!

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Response to ProSense (Original post)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 07:31 PM

47. That is gonna leave a mark.

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