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Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:47 PM

An open letter to folks who cannot in good conscience vote for Obama

Leave.


Go spew shit somewhere else.



Obama isn't good enough? He broke a lot of promises? Yeah, what else is new?



You don't have Dennis to kick around any more?



Sorry your ideal candidate isn't running this time. What are you going to do in 2016, bitch and moan again when YOUR candidate isn't running, or the candidate running isn't to your satisfaction?


The sign on the door says DEMOCRATIC Underground, not waffling Underground, not almost a Dem but maybe next time Underground, it's FUCKING DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND and Obama is our President.


Fuck.


What is wrong with you. You want Romney? Oh I don't like him and I'm not voting but you should. Whimsy whimsy whimsy.



Bullshit, stop trying to persuade people to your point of view. Either vote for him or go elsewhere and join the freak parade.


Sit on your hands, do it sit it out, but don't come back here preaching your shit to us when you're still unhappy.


Fuck.


Spoiled Romneys.


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Reply An open letter to folks who cannot in good conscience vote for Obama (Original post)
DainBramaged Sep 2012 OP
Evergreen Emerald Sep 2012 #1
villager Sep 2012 #2
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #3
villager Sep 2012 #6
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #25
villager Sep 2012 #50
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #62
villager Sep 2012 #64
Champion Jack Sep 2012 #4
uppityperson Sep 2012 #5
demmiblue Sep 2012 #7
DonViejo Sep 2012 #9
MercutioATC Sep 2012 #12
DonViejo Sep 2012 #13
MercutioATC Sep 2012 #14
demmiblue Sep 2012 #17
NCTraveler Sep 2012 #61
Doctor_J Sep 2012 #18
MercutioATC Sep 2012 #8
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #10
MercutioATC Sep 2012 #11
Kolesar Sep 2012 #56
TransitJohn Sep 2012 #15
Doctor_J Sep 2012 #19
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #21
redqueen Sep 2012 #16
DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #42
WiffenPoof Sep 2012 #20
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #22
cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #28
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #30
Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #24
Union Scribe Sep 2012 #54
Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #59
WinkyDink Sep 2012 #29
WinkyDink Sep 2012 #23
Ohio Joe Sep 2012 #26
Edweird Sep 2012 #27
cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #32
LineLineReply .
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #33
WiffenPoof Sep 2012 #37
Iggo Sep 2012 #31
cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #34
Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #35
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #36
blue neen Sep 2012 #38
Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #39
Whisp Sep 2012 #41
cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #45
Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #48
DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #40
cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #43
spanone Sep 2012 #44
leftstreet Sep 2012 #46
hay rick Sep 2012 #47
MadHound Sep 2012 #49
Union Scribe Sep 2012 #51
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #52
Union Scribe Sep 2012 #53
DainBramaged Sep 2012 #58
hay rick Sep 2012 #60
JI7 Sep 2012 #55
Kolesar Sep 2012 #57
quinnox Sep 2012 #63

Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:49 PM

1. kick

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:51 PM

2. But it's Democratic *Underground*. Not "Democratic Constantly Make Excuses For a Drift to the Right"

If we don't hold the Democratic party's feet to the fire, as they become, essentially, circa 1970's Republicans (while the Republicans become John Birchers) -- who will?

And screaming at people who still hew to progressive values doesn't do much to aid that discussion.

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Response to villager (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:53 PM

3. Do you think they read this?

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:56 PM

6. Do you think use of snarky smilies is a discussion?

The point is, D.B., if we're not even willing to have that discussion on a Democratic "Underground" site -- well, then the mis and dis-informationists have truly won in enlisting us to their Brave New Agenda.

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Response to villager (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:19 PM

25. Did you know apples come in all different colors?

That's the point, if you don't like what you see, click the x next to the thread then your life will be all happy and nice.


PS the Democrats in power don't read DU and don't give a shit about us.

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #25)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:16 AM

50. "if you don't like what you see, click the x next to the thread then your life will be all happy and

nice..."

Which means, I gather, you don't need to order anyone off of DU?

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Response to villager (Reply #50)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:04 PM

62. Click

buh bye

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #62)

Tue Sep 25, 2012, 04:01 PM

64. Exactly! "Physician, heal thyself," etc....



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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:54 PM

4. Sums it up

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:56 PM

5. Naw, I'd rather they stay and work towards getting Obama and other dems elected.

Even if their "good conscience" won't let them support them, maybe their good conscience will let them work against the worser awful other choices. If they are going to vote for him, even unwillingly, I am glad.

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:00 PM

7. I haven't seen anyone trying to persuade DUers to not vote for President Obama.

Is there some sort of link?

Thanks.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:10 PM

9. Here ya go demmiblue (and any one else interested in joining the

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:27 PM

12. Did you even READ that OP? He's advocating voting for Obama.

 

Even though he can't bring himself to actively support Obama, he's voting for Obama in proxy for an Obama voter who's unfairly purged from the voting rolls.

I realize the that OP you linked to was a little long, but you should probably read a post if you're going to link to it.

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Response to MercutioATC (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:33 PM

13. Yes, I read it, when it was first posted. Sorry it doesn't meet with your expectations.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:41 PM

14. What doesn't meet with my expectations?

 

I thought the OP you linked to was fine.

For you to characterize it as somebody trying others to not vote for Obama is simply incorrect, and indicates that you didn't even read it.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:32 PM

17. I don't get it.

I see a person who found himself in a moral dilemma. He has found a way to do, what I think, is the right thing to do: he is voting for President Obama. This is a good thing.




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Response to DonViejo (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:59 PM

61. A person making a well reasoned argument for

disgruntled Democrats voting for Obama. That's it.

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #7)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:50 PM

18. Dammit, demmiblue! What are you doing bringing facts to a rant?

Of course everyone here is going to vote for the president. But the purists want us to be happy about union-busting, school-privatizing, insurance-friendly, rich-folk tax-cutting Reaganesque policies too! Your vote, money, volunteered time are not enough! Smile when you eat this shit, since it's being served by a Dem!

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:01 PM

8. Does nobody ever get sick of posting this tripe?

 

It happens every election season. A few people get a bug up their butt and invite a lot of other people to leave DU.

Wait a couple of months and you won't feel as urgent a need to get all indignant.

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Response to MercutioATC (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:10 PM

10. (sigh) So my posts are tripe?

Thanks, three words.....

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:22 PM

11. Just the ones where you get all upset over nothing.

 

This happens every four years. Aren't you sick of it yet?

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Response to MercutioATC (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:07 AM

56. Exciting life you live...eom

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:46 PM

15. Unrec.

Weak.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:12 PM

21. So now you think it's OK to call me a fool for posting my opinion?

So sad for you.

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:46 PM

16. When I see the words "cannot in good conscience vote for..." in connection with any election since

the 60's

I just have to wonder WTF

None of these Dems have been anywhere near ideal. And the alternatives, well... I hope I don't have to finish that sentence.

Fucksake.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:07 PM

42. I agree

Even if I knew that the Dem might not improve our lives by much, I have always considered that we need to keep itchy trigger fingers away from the button.

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:07 PM

20. Stupid Post...

First.. What is the purpose of the OP???

You know, just the other day I was going to post an apology to the DU for my past criticism of President Obama. My apology was going to be based on the fact that I was too quick to judge the President. I'm still disappointed...however, I realize that it will take much longer to right our ship of state.

But to have someone post this kind of trash...dumping on those of us who are FDR Dems....Well, it's bullshit.

-PLA

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:13 PM

22. Stupid post? Really? Talk about trying to suppress opinion here...

What it isn't singing the praises of some long lost Dem?

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:30 PM

28. Yes, stupid post. Go post on Freepers...feel free and don't let the digital door hit you in the ass.

Bitching and moaning is useless, yea counterproductive. And take your pissant measly-assed vote with you. We are Democrats...thuse DU...get in or get off...in a manner of speaking.

Oh, and your Union cover ... I know many union voters, and you, sir, need more education.

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Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:31 PM

30. Keep going

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:17 PM

24. I don't think the OP is talking about criticism. It's about some posts

recently where posters said they won't vote for O. Some people get upset about that sort of thing, this being a Democratic forum and all that supports the Democratic Party candidate.

Everyone has criticized O at one time or another.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #24)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:50 AM

54. That is incorrect.

It is about a post where the poster IS voting for Obama, which makes it a silly thing to be shouting about.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #54)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:55 PM

59. I can only go by what he said. He did not cite a post or quote one, but says

it's about those who "cannot in good conscience vote for Obama." I take the OP on its face value. You may infer something else, but I'm going by the facts.

I've seen the posts he's speaking of. Yes, Virginia, there are posts where the poster says s/he is not going to vote for O.

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Response to WiffenPoof (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:30 PM

29. I'm a die-hard FDR (RFK, Jesse Jackson) Democrat. I don't think Team Obama has done enough to inform

Americans of how we ARE "BETTER OFF THAN WE WERE 4 YEARS AGO," since Reagan's asinine time-frame has come to be the standard.

MORE people have health-care coverage.

Osama Bin Laden is d.e.a.d. (and yes, I am quite familiar with the "he's been dead for many years" argument), even though Dubya said, "To tell you the truth, I don't think about him much." Which WAS true!

Yes, we are still in Afghanistan for geo-political and energy-resource reasons, but at least Obama ended the farce of our battling in Iraq. NAME a viable candidate of Presidential aspirations who would be doing differently, once he or she got the National Security low-down.

Yes, unemployment is too high. People are hurtung in reality, as opposed to theoretically. I wish for a 21st c. WPA next term.

One area I have a serious concern about is Arne Duncan and education: private charters are simply not how I think "public" education ought to be "improved."

BUT COMPARED TO THE UNVARNISHED EVIL THAT IS MITT ROMNEY?

WHAT ARE WE COMPLAINING ABOUT?!?!?!

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:15 PM

23. I don't think I've always been kind to you, DainBramaged, but you have my undying affection now!

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:24 PM

26. Agreed

President Obama has not done everything I would have liked for him to get done... And he has done some things I do not agree with. He has though... Been pretty damn good. I will vote for him without hesitation or doubt that re-electing him is the best course of action.

I am not giving many fucks today for anyone voting otherwise... They are too stupid for me to give a fuck about them.

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Response to Edweird (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:32 PM

32. This ^^^^^ Remember the old song...Hit the Road, Jack, and don't ya come back

no more, no more, no more. Hit the road, Jack and don't ya come back no more.

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Response to Edweird (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:35 PM

33. .

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Response to Edweird (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:50 PM

37. Thanks.

I too believe that FDR represented the best of our party. I know that times have changed...but I do not believe that means we compromise our Democratic principles.

-PLA

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:32 PM

31. This.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:40 PM

34. Why are we responding..Good lord, .his "handle" says it all.

One of the reasons our President had to lurch toward center is the lack of guts...fortitude...hutzpah...from the cowering and apologetic left that is evident on DU...sometimes. We owe him a freaking apology for our inadequacy...especially Unions. I'm retired so I'm working the AARP connection.

We could be talking about President Romney. No. Fu##ing. Way.

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:42 PM

35. Way to win people over to your side!

Insult and ridicule. That always works well.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:45 PM

36. It's not my side, glad you made your appearance

nice try once again....


If you aren't voting for the President, why are you here?


That's the point.

But, years gone by, you still don't get it.


Thanks for the drive by.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:50 PM

38. Darn/must have missed that memo...

I did not realize that the "eyesroll" smilie was a sign of positive affirmation. I always thought it was a way to ridicule someone.

Must've got my wires crossed.

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Response to blue neen (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:01 PM

39. Showing by example.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:02 PM

41. what other side should there be for a place called Democratic Underground?

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Response to Whisp (Reply #41)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:30 PM

45. That's just it ... he's a RW Troll. Read all the RW Talking Points

along with the word-baiting, gratuitous, snivelling, RW verbal genuflections. Time to call a Spade a Spade, or whatever the current PC equivalent it.

Adios, amigo.

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Response to cr8tvlde (Reply #45)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 10:49 PM

48. Who's a right-wing troll?

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:02 PM

40. Hey DB

Look,I am someone who still gets into arguments with the Greens in Florida. I feel you, but we do not want to yell at people just for yelling. One of the posts here, which you know well, featured a Obama hater who realizes that he still needs to vote against Romney. That was a brave thing.

We want to keep inviting the people who do not want to vote for Ovama to talk, not scream.

Granted, I know full well there are some snakes, the Jane Hamshers who slam Obama for not being left enough, yet fall into lockstep for Hillary in 2016. The libertarian jackasses like Glenn Greenwald who hope to pave over the Democrat's corpse on their way to glory. The people who want civilzation to fall because they think the world will listen to them. The people who want their legal marijuana yesterday, and, if that issue killed Obama, would just fill their bong and not give two shits?

Yes, I know..I have clenched my fist in anger, because these smug folks who turned a vote into poltical theater still willnot take responsibility..THEY kept Bush in power. And yes, they go ahead and say "well if the Democrats listened to US!!!!"

But for everyone of the cranks, there are people like the one I mentioned, that realize that we need to keep Romney OUT!

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:21 PM

43. DU to OP ... "Looking for love in all the wrong places...

...take your "conflicted inner soul" Open Letter over to the Freepers. Heck, maybe you should vote for Mittens, if it will make you feel better about yourself.

But Dude, we got Obama in 2012 and Hillary in 2016...Bring it!!

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:22 PM

44. bwahahahahahahaaa.....

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:36 PM

46. Dennis who? Quaid?

And why were DUers kicking him around?

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:48 PM

47. Thanks for screaming.

The TOS specifically proscribes advocating for the defeat of or not voting for a Democratic candidate. The people you are railing against have either left, been kicked out, or are remaining silent.

There are people, like myself, who criticize particular policies of the administration. I believe that is allowed. It's called constructive criticism. It's something that adults do. Criticizing the President is not the same as advocating for Romney- but thanks for the gratuitous insults.

There are people, like myself, who are generally disappointed with the President, BUT WILL VOTE FOR HIM ANYWAY because there is no constructive alternative and Mitt Romney is genuinely repulsive. I think I'm allowed to say that here. I have no intention of itemizing my dissatisfaction with the President at this time because that would not be constructive- it is campaign season.

Get a grip.









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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 10:59 PM

49. Amazing how a simple exercise in democracy can bring out the authoritaria streak around here,

 

"Bullshit, stop trying to persuade people to your point of view. Either vote for him or go elsewhere and join the freak parade. "

Yes, nobody should ever try to persuade somebody else to their point of view in a democracy, it simply shouldn't be done.

The irony. . .

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 02:20 AM

51. I see you still haven't read the post in question.

That's unfortunate. You should, it doesn't really say what you think it does.

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 03:26 AM

52. I have, nice try, Merry Christmas

Go back and pat him on the back some more.

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Response to DainBramaged (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:47 AM

53. Then there's no need for the aggressive posturing.

Why does it matter to you why a person is voting for Obama? An enthusiastic vote does not count any more than a reserved one. Can you honestly tell me you're pleased with everything Obama has done? How about signing those trade pacts? If that pissed you off like it did me, how can you attack someone who has other problems with Obama, but who is voting for him?

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #53)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 09:31 AM

58. bye

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Response to Union Scribe (Reply #53)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:57 PM

60. So if Democrats can't defend the Trans Pacific Partnership, they should ignore it?

Good post.

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:52 AM

55. i agree, they act like it's some religion or some shit

and we should kiss their ass.

i say fuck you. these types go around mostly being negative bashing candidate and then want their ass kissed for claiming they will vote for him .

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 06:10 AM

57. Maybe you should just look past them

Life is short

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Response to DainBramaged (Original post)

Sun Sep 23, 2012, 04:14 PM

63. whoa, ok fine, let's nominate you as chief inquisitor

 

All Duers MUST fax a picture of them in the booth voting for Obama as proof (closeups of the checked Obama name required), and only then will they be allowed the go ahead to post further here on Du, courtesy of you.

I expect you will perform this honor with great responsibility and grace.


Needless to say>

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