Paul Ryan Being Booed at AARP for Saying Obamacare Should Be Repealed: ('Silence and Boos')

[Hissyspit]

Twitter reports:

Shushannah Walshe ?@shushwalshe
Huge chant of "No!" When Paul Ryan says he wants to repeal Obamacare.

kirsten powers ?@kirstenpowers10
Paul Ryan getting booed at AARP for saying Obamcare shld be repealed

Alex Moe ?@AlexNBCNews
Loud boos for Ryan at AARP when he says: "The first step to a stronger Medicare is to repeal Obamacare" #decision2012
Retweeted by Josh Marshall

Rebecca Kaplan ?@Rebecca_CBSNJ
This is without a doubt the most unfriendly audience Ryan has spoken to as VP candidate. Audience alterantes between silence and boos. Retweeted by Markos Moulitsas

VIDEO: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-ryan-booed-by-aarp-crowd-for-promising-to-repeal-obamacare

[flamingdem]

1. I was wondering why he even dared to speak to them! nt

[aquart]

7. I would say it's because he's an arrogant asshole.

But that's just my opinion.

[Indpndnt]

25. Very accurate, though. He got this arrogant smirk on his face when they booed.

The tool.

[flamingdem]

42. The smirk gives it away

and as stated below it was probably a plan to get a soundbyte to take out of context

[oldsarge54]

94. Could Be

Could also be that he believes what social conservatives and tea party types have been telling each other, not realizing there is a world outside those circles. In other words, an ignorant asshole.

[PatSeg]

27. Because he thinks us "old folks"

are gullible and stupid. Republicans insult voters in every way possible.

[Heather MC]

34. he went there for the commercial the same reason mit spoke at the NAACP

[flamingdem]

40. Maybe it's time to refuse to have R&R speak at certain organizations nt

[elzenmahn]

101. For the same reason Mittwitt went to speak to the NAACP...

...it was for the consumption of his base and the Fox News viewers.

He knew damned well he was going to get this type of reaction. Here's to both of his campaigns capsizing and going glug-glug-glug.

[Marrah_G]

2. awesome

[onehandle]

3. Has he pitched suicide booths and old people's value as Soylent Green yet? nt

[progressivebydesign]

4. Zombie-eyed granny-starver, strikes again! So much charm those two have!! n/t

[City Lights]

5. Ha ha!

Give it to him!

[louis-t]

6. Whoa! Tough crowd.

"Romney camp tells Ryan to 'shut it!'" Wait for it.....

[BumRushDaShow]

8. OMG

I gotta see the video of that!

[aquart]

9. He thought he could get the old to turn on their children and grandchildren.

Did Ayn Rand ever write about a character with children?

[JDPriestly]

28. The key question. Her characters do not have happy partnership-marriages.

I read the books when I was in college and immediately saw this flaw -- no room for love in Ayn Rand's world.

How can anyone claim to be a Christian and agree with Ayn Rand on economics? Impossible. The ideas are diametrically opposed.

[jeff47]

75. Probably mirroring her life

When you read about Ayn's life, and specifically her love life, you realize why her characters only have massively fucked-up personal relationships.

[theKed]

84. Far from the only flaw.

The woman couldn't write her way out of a wet paper bag.

Any time I pick up one of her books, I am reminded of the Dorothy Parker quote -

"This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly; it should be thrown with great force."

[treestar]

86. I don't think there were any children in her novels

At least I don't remember anyway, someone who read them more recently might correct me.

But children don't fit into her world - they are dependent people, so she would not have wanted to deal with that issue. I think she may have had one of her heroes be an orphan who worked rather than steal or beg for any crust of bread, or even accept charity. Maybe she applied her philosophy to children too, but even then there would be an age where her philosophy would be quite unreasonable. Infants are supposed to be dependent.

[nuxvomica]

111. That proposal still amazes me

They really can't see past their own sociopathy. They think everyone is just as self-centered as they are and so they continue to propose that "you'll like our plan because nothing changes for you; we just screw your children and grandchildren." It's a fascinating display of cluelessness. I bet focus-groups told them otherwise and they still couldn't fathom it.
It reminds me of an old Alfred Hitchcock Presents where the perp was identified by a giant mole on his face. But the perp was so vane and in denial about the mole, he didn't realize he was so easy to identify. Their generation-splitting plan for medicare is the giant mole on the face of their campaign, or at least one of the giant moles.

[onenote]

10. So will Romney explain that Ryan was just being "inarticulate"?

[nichomachus]

11. Did he wear makeup to make him look like an old person?

Maybe that would have helped.

[Tanuki]

22. Hahaha--good one! n/t

[Lifelong Protester]

88. That was a good one!

[Corgigal]

12. first rule of a politician

know your audience.

Failed that test I see.

[alsame]

13. Did he bring his mother? NT

[Hubert Flottz]

69. I think she's in the dog crate on top of the bus

with a muzzle on.

[calimary]

73. DUzy!!!!!

[mfcorey1]

14. Only an idiot would stand in front of an AARP event and spout the foolishness

that he did.

[PATRICK]

18. For future ad spots

cropped to make him courageous etc. You used to get some points for showing up, but the mileage they make of the boos now is intentional and different from courage of any sort. Nixon showed up and got trashed and got respect and a strange sort of sympathy that backfired on unions and others. The whole meme of standing up to special interests thus got strangely warped as applying only to knocking down people advocacy groups.

[Tsiyu]

81. Exactly

they will edit and cut and paste until poor widdle Ryan looks like David against Goliath, and then use the footage to convince seniors to join Dan Weber's "gawdly" seniors lobbying group, which I won't name on DU again.

Republicans are always conniving and they have no shame.

[PATRICK]

108. Only it was inapproriate and stupid

Since the retired people orgs have been compromised by its wealthier members and corrupted board of directors. This was misapplying and doing badly the strategy. That and getting booed like a smirking idiot too.

They sincerely think going through the motions is all they have to do, but it has gotten them this far so they cannot even imagine course correction. Clever strategies just appear clownishly routine things to get through as they steamroll right over the voters.

[WinkyDink]

110. "Nixon showed up" where and when? What are you talking about?

[PATRICK]

114. In front of Big labor

Where the reception was immediately cold, portraying a hostile territory image before he said a word. The impression of "Big Labor" was a false equivalence with Big Business. Probably a defiant power thing like trying to school Hoover, which made Nixon look the red-faced loser. Times were such that the pilgrimage to various special interests was almost like going to Mecca and Medina- if you wanted to get elected.
Reagan going to Las Vegas to meet with... the mob? Some things are not televised. Television made a difference in and of itself as Nixon learned the hard way.

Now it is so controlled what is taken for granted nowadays are mere photo ops. Words and context and reactions disappear by election day. It is not smart and dangerously arrogant to take the current weakness of the actual special interest "pilgrimage" for granted so much that any little Teabagger can think they can say pretty much anything and weakly veil the poor lies, ignore the boos without being sensitive enough even to feel discomfort.

On edit for facts: OK. What I specifically key on was Nixon on Nov 20,1971 telling the AFL-CIO convention in Miami he was doing Phase 2 of his economic plan with or without his support. Labor responded to the refusal of electronic media to air any words by Meaney by giving Nixon the silent treatment, no standing or giving of any deference or recognition of the office. Of course, that probably got under Nixon's skin and thwarted some sign of control over AFL-CIO but the same electronic media gamed for the day didn't exactly explain their part in this tit for tat. I think to the uninformed it made the Convention look the disrespectful bully. Except for labor constituents IMHO advantage went to Nixon regardless of his constant failure to achieve sweetness and light for his domestic agenda.

[ellie]

15. Bwahahahahahahaha!

Fuck Ryan and the horse he rode in on. Or, as my father used to say, they should burn the boat that brought him over!

[valerief]

16. Time for his audience to pull out the tomatoes. nt

[Indpndnt]

17. I really like the AARP's explanation of Obamacare vs. Lyin's NoCare

It's simply stated. http://www.aarp.org/health/health-insurance/info-09-2012/medicare-and-health-care-reform-myths.1.html|

I was expecting boos. They see straight thru Eddie Munster and his empty suit running mate.

[hifiguy]

19. Mittwit at the NAACP convention

Lyin' Ryan at the AARP convention.

Epic, total, gruesome fails.

[Blue Owl]

20. What, no hissing?

I think Ryan's earned a few hisses along with all those boos.

[Berlum]

21. Ryan should have worn his Faux Wrinkles (R)

As Latinos swooned for Willard in Man Tan, so elders would cream their Depends for Ryan in his Faux Wrinkle RepubliPirate Mask (R).

[Rozlee]

61. Arrr. Nooo!

We didn't swoon for him. We're still gobsmacked at his audacity, if not his stupidity. My sister pointed out to me of how it reminded her of the time when Tom dressed like a huge mouse to punk Spike the Bulldog to get at Jerry on Looney Tunes. We definitely noticed the six foot tall rat in brown face, trying to lull us into forgetting he was a predator just to get our votes.

[Berlum]

74. LOL

[Rozlee]

83. !

[Chorophyll]

23. The only bad part of this is that I can't be there to see it.

Otherwise, sweet!

[GCP]

24. I fucking LOVE the internet

Where else would we learn this at the moment it's happening.

[bklyncowgirl]

26. What happened, did he forget to bring his Mom?

I'd love to watch this.

[Hissyspit]

29. Video added to OP. nt

[bklyncowgirl]

48. Oh forget it, Andrea Mitchell said Ma Ryan was there. nt

[KharmaTrain]

30. More Dog & Pony Show For The "50.1%"

Remember, Pinocchio Munster isn't trying to win votes...this is coming off like a martyr to the "base" that is the only hope he and Bishop Willard have of sneaking through a win. This is video food for the faux noise and hate radio crowd to "rally" behind their candidates. This is not unlike Willard's visit to the NAACP convention...the boos were a "badge of honor" in wingnutland. They're still trying to win the primaries...sheesh!

[budkin]

31. Go AARP!

Bending Paul Ryan over.

[uwep]

32. This person (Ryan) is supposed to be intelligent??????

The garbage he has written speaks volumes as to his intelligence. He knows well that Obama's
cuts in Medicare are from cracking down on Medicare fraud, insurance, hospitals, and doctors fee.

What an idiot, and the teabaggers idolize him.

[calimary]

77. Welcome to DU uwep!

Glad you're here! We need you! Help us keep everybody from getting complacent too soon! We don't have this thing locked in yet.





Now get to work.

[BlueStreak]

33. Ryan's big problem is that Joe knows the facts cold

and he won't let that little lying weasel get away with this kind of BS during their debate. Hopefully Ms. Raddatz will take note of this little interlude at the AARP meeting. Is she any good? I haven't watched any of these networks for ages.

Mark your calendars:

Topic: Foreign and domestic topics

Date: Thursday, Oct. 11

Time: 9 - 10:30 p.m. EDT

Location: Centre College, Danville, Ky.

Moderator: Martha Raddatz, senior foreign affairs correspondent, ABC News

Format: "The debate will cover both foreign and domestic topics and be divided into nine time segments of approximately 10 minutes each. The moderator will ask an opening question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a discussion of the question."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81467.html#ixzz277thcJqq

[Blue_Roses]

92. Martha Raddatz is very good.

She does a lot of war correspondence so that should be REAL interesting! I think Martha will do a great job. I hope Ryan gets his ass handed to him.

[NightWatcher]

35. Holy Shit, didya see that? Obama just won Florida

Seriously R$/Ryan are on Obama's paid campaign staff, right?

[Skidmore]

36. If he keeps getting receptions like this one, he may very well improve is marathon running time.

[randome]

58. LOL! Desperation can make anyone move fast!

[Grammy23]

37. This made my heart sing!

I was wondering when this would happen in a large forum that was being filmed. This is a good day, folks. Here we have proof that not all of us golden oldies are drooling in our oatmeal and picking daisies off the wall. At least not yet.

Bill Clinton did us a HUGE favor when he made that speech at the convention because he told us in simple language what we needed to know about Obama Care (and social security/medicare/medicaid), if we didn't know already.

Paulie just had to plaster on that winsome smile of his and soldier on with his speech. As someone else posted earlier, the main thing I regret is that I wasn't there to add to the boos and chants of NO! Let this video go viral!!!

[HockeyMom]

63. I am turning 64 next month

I just LOVE it when they say 55+ will not be affected. They think I belive it? My Momma didn't raise no fool. You start talking except these people (65+), or those people (55+), read my lying lips, you mean EVERYONE.

I also want Medicare, and Social Security, for my 20 and 30 something CHILDREN.

[Freddie]

96. Today's my birthday

Watching him get roundly booed just made my day. And the lies! I can smell his pants on fire up here in PA.

[smirkymonkey]

106. Happy Birthday Freddie!

Hope it was great!

[Freddie]

107. Thank you!

I want a birthday present on Nov. 6! I'll wait.

[bread_and_roses]

112. Actually, being an insurance company is what AARP is all about

An Insurance Co with bells and whistles. And the ACA is the best thing that's happened for insurance Co's since the flood. And they know it.

Elders, however (of which I am one) are no more likely to be selfish, grasping, callous, and greedy than the general population. Nearly all of us care not only about our own children and grandchildren but the general welfare of all. Most of us are neither deranged nor depraved enough to think that "I got mine, screw you"a la R/R/R (Romney/Ryan/Rand) is a foundation for a civilized society.

As someone else in this thread said, Ryan and his ilk are so used to their bubble of worshipful followers that they've forgotten that most normal human beings find throwing Granny, or anyone else, in the street to starve and die repellent.

[Vinnie From Indy]

115. Bravo!

Your description of the AARP is spot on. They are a brilliantly cloaked insurance company and you can be sure that they loved the ACA just as much as any other insurance company.
Cheers!

[Zambero]

39. "Ladies & Gentlemen: That's Just Not True"

Ryan seems to have (inadvertently) confessed that everything he'd uttered before this comment constituted a pack of lies. This audience was not fooled one bit, and no doubt resented having their intelligence insulted by a series of long-discredited talking points.

[TexasProgresive]

70. "Obama took control of my lips!" cried rLyan

[Ikonoklast]

41. They are smart enough to realize that after fucking over every younger citizen, the Republicans

will then fuck over everyone else by stealing what they have paid into their entire working lives.

And that includes REPUBLICAN RETIREES, too.

[tosh]

43. "YOU LIE!!!"

Wish I'd really heard that.

[beachgirl2365]

44. FAUX NEWS & Ryan's explanation for the Audience Boo's

Didn't you know the the people in the audience are part of the 47%, and "You People"? You see the audience was filled with parasitic moochers,... what else do you expect?

[Arugula Latte]

57. Also, they weren't booing, they were saying "Goose!" because Paul Ryan is Mitt's wingman

just like Goose was Maverick's wingman in Top Gun, see?! It all makes sense, but the liberal media will spin it like it was a negative thing.

[Blanks]

76. Perhaps.

I'm thinking Goose died in the film.

[calimary]

80. Welcome to DU beachgirl2365!

Glad you're here! Yes. Wonder how many of them had tax shelters that kept the IRS away completely? Those are the only folks who eagerly gravitate toward a candidate like wrongney. Help us send him back to Utah. Or Massachusetts. Or La Jolla, CA. Or Michigan. Or wherever it is that he claims as his home state this week.





Now get to work.

[porphyrian]

45. Ha! n/t

[eridani]

46. And he didn't even get around to mentioning voucherizing Medicare

Prolly knew he would have been physically assaulted.

[hifiguy]

66. Tarred and feathered.

Then run out of town on a rail. That is a nice thought.

[Blue_Roses]

93. Definitely!

He tried to venture down that way, but he got scared. He knew he was had and the lying gig was up.

[Fresh_Start]

47. Thank goodness, AARP finally understands that the GOP is trying to screw them too

and now just screw younger people

[EC]

49. His mistake was to think people over 50 don't know anything.

It's AARP that has read both the Affordable Healthcare Act and the Ryan Plan...they know what is in both and his lies don't fly.

[JohnnyRingo]

50. Did he explain that he only wants to screw over their children?

That seems to be the disclaimer they were using before. They'd tell seniors "If you're over 55 you won't have to worry about cuts", but it appears dementia isn't as rampant among their older base as the campaign assumed.

I think it may be time to take another greatest hit sound bite out of rotation. By November the campaign will have nothing left but a golden oldies show of "socialist" and "where's the birth certificate?".

It's amusing Ryan said "I expected a mixed reaction" to that statement. First of all, no he didn't, and secondly, I heard the jeers not the cheers.

Ryan bet his political career on a struggling campaign that his teabag roots can't save.

[librechik]

51. I had a feeling this would happen--I hope he was wearing his Kevlar pants!

w00t!

[Alduin]

52. I can't believe he would even dare to speak to the AARP.

Wow. Just...wow.

What an idiot.

[nichomachus]

53. The right-wing talking point is already out

"If you're under 40 and the AARP boos a candidate, then you should vote for that candidate."

[Jennicut]

95. I am under 40 and the Repubs can go screw themselves.

They aren't good for any generation, including my children.

[heaven05]

54. good

older americans are NOT stupid americans It was so heartwarming to hear the boos. Stupid repug thug.

[tarheelsunc]

55. Oh Paulie, there was no "mixed reaction"...

It seems what you were saying was universally hated. Maybe you'd like to change your mind about it a few times like your superior has.

[Arugula Latte]

56. Unanimously Opposed = "Mixed Reaction" in Paul Ryan's world.

What a giant ass.

[Harriety]

60. You rock my felllow AARP members.....

We older American are still part of this race and we do have a voice. What we hear (the ones of us who don't drink that tea) from this JAss is not pleasin' to our ears.

[blackspade]

62. Awwww....poor little buddy.

[LittleGirl]

64. Happy to be the 101 rec !!! Yipee

[midnight]

65. Anyone have a link that says Obamacare is raiding Medicare?

[ehrnst]

68. Here's what is actually happening with ACA and Medicare

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/14/romneys-right-obamacare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/


The Medicare Advantage cut gets the most attention, but it only accounts for about a third of the Affordable Care Act’s spending reduction. Another big chunk comes from the hospitals. The health law changed how Medicare calculates what they get reimbursed for various services, slightly lowering their rates over time. Hospitals agreed to these cuts because they knew, at the same time, they would likely see an influx of paying patients with the Affordable Care Act’s insurance expansion.

The rest of the Affordable Care Act’s Medicare cuts are a lot smaller. Reductions to Medicare’s Disproportionate Share Payments — extra funds doled out the hospitals that see more uninsured patients — account for 5 percent in savings. Lower payments to home health providers make up another 8.8 percent. About a dozen cuts of this magnitude make up the green section above.

It’s worth noting that there’s one area these cuts don’t touch: Medicare benefits. The Affordable Care Act rolls back payment rates for hospitals and insurers. It does not, however, change the basket of benefits that patients have access to. And, as Ezra pointed out earlier today, the Ryan budget would keep these cuts in place.

[ehrnst]

67. He should be thankful they didn't throw cans of cat food at him. (nt)

[Buns_of_Fire]

71. Show 'em your pecs and your six-pack, Paul.

You ain't winning votes with your personality or ideas, you might as well go for broke...

[PMcDee]

72. Romney reacts to Ryan's AARP Speech

He was obviously inarticulate.

[Blanks]

78. He didn't seem very elegant to me.

I think they were booing at his lack of elegance.

[freshwest]

79. Sell that snake oil somewhere else, like your goddess Ayn Rand.

[M_M]

82. Da-da-da-da-da

I'm lovin' it!

[treestar]

85. Actually that's kind of interesting

The AARP is ok with Obamacare? (Medicare repeals that Lyan calls for should elicit even more boos, but I guess Lyan did not get into that).

[Victor_c3]

90. Yeah, I was happy with that too

I find it reassuring that the call to repeal Obamacare was booed. I like to see that a once almost certain Republican demographic doesn't like what the Republicans are preaching.

I keep feeling better and better about this election.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

87. The little weasel LIES with amazing skill

He says Obama "cut Medicare by $716 billion and put that money into Obamacare - into yet another entitlement we didn't even ask for".

That's HORSE SHIT. Obama cut WASTE and FRAUD in Medicare (not benefits) and put that money towards closing the Medicare Part D (Rx drug program) donut hole. It is NOT "another entitlement we didn't ask for" -- it's one we already had - and it was COOKED UP BY GEORGE W. BU$H as a gift to big pharma - it was not created by Obama. Obama is trying to fix the goddamned thing.

Now, I KNOW this lying little Ayn Randian ass knows this. He's just LYING and hoping some stupid people (and those in that room were not stupid) will believe it.

[WinkyDink]

109. With ease, for sure, but perhaps not with skill!

[Glimmer of Hope]

89. NBC just showed some nice footage of people walking out.

[Matariki]

91. Republicans losing the over 60 crowd?

Who's going to vote for them?

[AnnieBW]

97. Dad Was Looking On From Heaven and Cheering Them On

I heard about that today, and my first thought was that "Dad is looking down from heaven and cheering them on." After he retired from being a public school educator, Dad became active in the Pennsylvania AARP. His big issue was healthcare for seniors. He attended several meetings at the National HQ down here in DC, and we'd always go down into DC to have dinner with him. Dad passed away at the end of June, and was buried with his AARP Andras Award pin on his suit. I know that he's watching from the Summerland and cheering on his fellow "greedy geezers" as they booed Lyin' Ryan.

[Honeycombe8]

98. You go, Grandpa and Grandma. Tell this whippersnapper where to get off!

R&R think the seniors are STUPID! Well, apparently they're not!

[MrScorpio]

99. He should have finished his presentation by kicking an old lady down some stairs nt

[Astazia]

100. Booed in front of his muh...moth...

(stop crying John) Mother

[joshcryer]

102. Funny that there were OPs here just a little while ago...

...that would've cheered Ryan for repealing Obama Care.

[patrice]

103. His style is pedantic. Lecturing them like they're a bunch of middle-schoolers. Disgusting.

[lexw]

104. He's knows this election is a lost case...

...he's betting on his future, shooting down Obama's health care plan, and putting this in his back pocket should he need it in the future. Wow. He's an awful speaker

[WCGreen]

105. What a smug piece of shit...

Bit I will grant you that he has some guts going ot in front of that crowd.

[ewagner]

113. That smirk...

I think he was taunting the audience...

He knew he would get this reception so he built his reputation among his base as being "strong, heroic".

He's padding his credentials for 2016...he was DELIGHTED with the Boos..

[nc4bo]

116. On MSNBC -Romney/Ryan Camp said that people should remember that the AARP is a Dem. organization

Led by Dems and perhaps the American public should keep that in mind. Heard it this morning and wonder how far R/R intend to go with it.

I can't help but think that R/R would be making a very bad mistake antagonizing an organization with as many members and as powerful as AARP.