The 2016 GOP push has begun in earnest.

[Ineeda]

I've lost count of the number of times Mourning Joe has said this morning that 'neither Jeb Bush nor Chris Christie would ever have said that.' It's their 2016 ticket. So, on November 7th, while we're celebrating and gearing up to help our president have a spectacularly successful four more years, we need to start our own 2016 focus. Four years comes around in a heartbeat.

[el_bryanto]

1. Biden or Clinton or ? That'll be an interesting election in any event

[ChoppinBroccoli]

8. They'll Both Be Way Too Old

Hillary will be pushing 70, and I think Biden will be well past 70 by then. Voters generally don't like to vote for people that old for feat that they'll die in office. We need to be looking for some new, younger blood. As much as I'd love to see Howard Dean run again, I think he'll likely be too old too (he's about the same age as Hillary).

The guy I would absolutely LOVE to see run is MY Senator, Sherrod Brown. That's one guy I would really support enthusiastically.

[Ineeda]

12. My feeling, too, age-wise.

Hillary is 65 next month. In four years she'll be 69 and we'll hope to get eight years. That might not be old under ordinary circumstances, but the stress of being president takes its toll. Joe's 70, so same problem. I love Sherrod Brown, but some of those less-known speakers at the convention could probably be great possibilities, too. The point is, we need to start 'grooming' now.

[sadbear]

10. I still love Howard Dean.

[Tennessee Gal]

2. Joe is pathetic this morning.

Even more so than usual.

He knows.

[rurallib]

6. take Stephie and two mooks and the pain of Joe goes away

on Current or on the computer
http://www.chicagoprogressivetalk.com/listen/stream.php

[porphyrian]

3. When you encounter the functionally illiterate generation coming out of Florida public schools...

...thank JEB! He started the FCAT crap and then lied about its success during his term as Florida Governor. Don't trust him, he's teflon so far.

[sandyshoes17]

4. I hope your right

Maybe this is their way of getting rid of the extreme base, if Mitt wins and screws up( which now you can almost guarantee), they won't be able to get in for a while, they want to play out the next 4 yrs and put up someone more moderate damn the base.

[leveymg]

5. Nixon was elected 4 years after Goldwater's debacle because Johnson escalated the Vietnam War.

Hope that Barack doesn't make the same mistake in Syria and Iran.

[davidpdx]

7. Well we shouldn't count this year as over yet.

It isn't over until the fat lady sings. And hopefully she sits on Mitt while she does it.

[jsr]

9. Bring back the entertainers

[annabanana]

11. Al Franken.. Come on Down!. . n/t

[randome]

13. None of this matters. Four years from now is an eternity.

Does anyone still see Jeb or Christie as some sort of stealth candidate? Be real!

And Biden? Clinton? Both too old, I don't care about Reagan. And we need to keep up the flow of young, fresh faces, not politicians who couldn't get elected on their own before.

Obama wins and gives his blessing to the next smart man/woman in the Democratic fold. The Republicans are not going to be able to recover from Palin/Romney for a long time to come.

[Ineeda]

15. Um, see my post #12.

Isn't that what I said about Clinton/Biden/newcomers? I disagree about four years from now, which will come very quickly, IMO. It seems like only months ago that we were flabbergasted, disbelieving that Palin was actually taken seriously by a large percentage of voters. I'm still stunned by that, and that polls show this is not (yet) a total Obama landslide. Repiglicans always think way ahead, and somehow always recover from the most incredible disasters. So I reiterate, we will need to start to work 11/7/12.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. Martin O'Malley.

Bank on it.