Pamela Geller's Blog Solicited Funds For anti-Muhammad Film

Judaism teaches respect for people of other faiths.

Such behavior as hers is more typical of Southern Baptist evangelicals.

The Xtian literalists believe we are in the end Times. Out of the those times comes the big offer; "convert or die." Nice allies ya got there, Geller.

I mean seriously: A jew promoting religious hatred? What could possibly go wrong?

The revelations just keep coming. Those revelations are just the tip of the iceberg however, IMHO. A common thread runs through the film, orthodox religious beliefs. The battle of the literalists, the extremists; here, there, everywhere.

Right Wing Think Tanks. What people wanted to know after they found out the names of those Think Tanks, was WHO is funding THEM?

She became quiet for a while after the Norwegian Mass Killer was found to have been a fan of hers.

This group really needs to be thoroughly outed. I remember Rachel I believe digging into their funding and finding that they had raised over $46 million to promote their bigotry. That's pretty serious money and definitely warrants a look at who is so interested in keep the Muslim Bigotry alive, because Geller is simply a lower echelon player imo.

who aren't Haters.

Mitt, any comment?

Where are all the "Spaghetti Monster" posts? I don't think Muslims would exactly care for THEM.

That one drew some pretty impressive protests.

There was also a petition to stop a movie about a gay jesus floating around that got an absurd amount of signatures back in the mid-80s. So not only were they angry about a movie, they were angry about a movie that didn't exist and wasn't even going to be made. And they've been pissed off about a non-existent movie for 25 years, since the petition still makes the inbox rounds again from time to time. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/gayjesus.asp

Too long ago? They're up in arms right now over a film called "Jesus of Nazereth" by Paul Verhoeven.
http://www.ynaija.com/ticker-christians-protest-new-film-claiming-that-jesus-was-a-product-of-rape/
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-film-jesus-wasnt-divine-he-was-born-after-his-mother-was-raped-by-a-roman-soldier/

If those aren't violent enough for you, I can link you to about a dozen death threat campaigns in the last two or three years alone.

If you missed them, you weren't looking.

They didn't want a Jesus who empathized with everyday people, who lived like one of them, who preached a gospel of Love to the bitter end. No, they wanted the bitter end. They wanted a Jesus who is bleeding and groaning in agony.

Sick.

I imagine Schindler's List was the better for it, too. Though I suppose there may be a handful who wanted it sanitized too... no bleeding or groaning in agony.

In full disclosure, I'm Christian, specifically a Catholic, and a practicing one at that. (Not a huge fan of the heirachy, but I like the underlying message behind the faith)

And I'll admit that before I saw TLTOC, all I knew about it was from the rumors....that it supposedly depicted Jesus shacking up with Mary Magdalane.

But I wanted to see for myself what the big deal was about, so I checked out a copy.

And I saw nothing in the film that ran against any of my personal beliefs.

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It was an artistic depiction. More than anything, I found it was mechanism for thought provocation. Whereas too many movies about Jesus simply portray him as some sort of platitude spouting automaton who had a super-casual means to speak with God as if it were as simple as giving Him a phone call, TLTOC portrayed Jesus as a human being (which, if you are a Christian, you believe he was). That means with a full range of emotions and an uncertainity about a sometimes unclear mission, to the point where Jesus himself is wondering if he's just insane. And that's a very human reaction in my opinion.

And I also loved the take on Jesus and Judas. Frankly, the narrative that I've heard from most is the whole "Judas as a villian" notion. And I never bought it, not even as a kid. If you are to believe that it was pre-destined that Jesus was to be handed over and crucified, and Judas was the one to set things into motion, how exactly was he the villian? From what I remember of the film, Jesus tells Judas that he must be the one to hand him over....and to me, it makes much more sense that way.

Finally, the "Jesus shacks up with Mary Magdalene" thing was the biggest thing over nothing. As the title suggests, the movie is about "the last temptation" and they show Jesus, suffering on the cross having a vision of the "devil" (in the form of a young girl) "tempting" Jesus with what his life would be like had he given up on his mission and lived a simple, human life. This includes marrying Mary Magdalene and having a family with her. However, Jesus resists this "temptation", accepts his mission and it goes back to Jesus on the cross with him uttering the famous phrase "It is accomplished" and then dying. Cue an serendipitous white flash (caused by a film malfunction) and the excellent Peter Gabriel soundtrack. Just really an exceptional ending.

After seeing it for myself, how people thought this was somehow blasthemous, I have no idea. I found it more faith affirming than anything.

"I found it more faith affirming than anything. "

I did too. But then I also though that about Passion of the Christ, also.

Monty Python's Life of Brian.

Maybe you are too young...

Life changing event.

I'm betting it was all planned.
They don't give a flying fuck who dies as long as they make money and ReTHUGs win power..

The good news is that Rmoney isn't winning shit.

I DO hope someone has the guts to call this out.

The problem is not Muslims, militant or whatever....

The problem (as usual) is RELIGION.

in which there was a question or two from the fans about how Obama MUST be impeached? The woman who asked that particular question was a fancy-looking female, but you saw her from the side over at camera left in front of the stage, with somebody else standing partially in the way. And she was reaching out and gesturing assertively to punctuate her question about impeaching Obama. This woman looked a lot like the one photographed here. D'you suppose they're the same person?

It certainly wouldn't be the first time the republi-CONS manufactured outrage in presidential campaigns. Remember the "Brooks Brothers riot" in Florida during Selection 2000 - that intimidated the vote counters in an office behind locked glass doors, with this mob of people pounding the doors and shaking their fists and shouting to stop the vote count? Turns out every last one of 'em was either a GOP operative or a staffer from some republi-CON senator's or congresscritter's office. Totally manufactured. But it sure got a lot of coverage and fooled a HELLUVA lot of people.

Is this the one that you are talking about?

Romney Silent As Woman Says Obama Should Be Tried For Treason



I can't see the woman, there is a man in front of her. I tried to listen to a known sample of Pamela Geller talking on video and that one of the unknown woman, and I'm not sure if it's her.

The right is known for interfering with elections in any way they can.

It's hard to tell, and she's almost completely hidden by the guy in front of her.

Just a wild guess, really. But these bastards do indeed play dirty. They plant people. Or their people plant themselves. They've done a lot to manufacture, manipulate, and manage public opinion. Perception management. Have your operatives and College republi-CON types call into the radio station - give 'em the inside number to make sure they get through - and reinforce the talking points. Plant multiple versions of the same basic letter to the editor in scores of small town newspapers where the odds are better they'll get printed. That one's called "astroturfing." Or how 'bout this - assign or hand-pick a bunch of average-citizen types (who are really GOP Senate and Congressional staffers) to pound on the glass walls and doors of the Florida office where people are trying to count the votes - and that will be read as - "See? Look at all those Average Joes and Janes trying desperately to make their voices heard! 'The People' really and truly DO NOT want the vote counting to continue!"

There are wicked little tricks GALORE, and these guys are very good at using them to manage perception and manipulate public opinion. At all times, we have to be aware of it, and ready to counter it.

When the brother of Kamal Rizk -- the vice president of Media for Christ -- died last year, Kamal described him as "a devout Christian who attended a Jews for Jesus worship service on weekdays and a regular church service on Sundays." (Rizk and his brother were from a Coptic family that converted to become Southern Baptists.)
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/12/08/1697038/area-man-dies-in-cayman-islands.html

And Gary Cass, the founder of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission who is turning out to have been another party to the production of the film, has openly attacked Israel for restricting Christian proselytization. Here's a 2008 press release from his CADC:

http://newsblaze.com/story/20080606115711tsop.nb/topstory.html

Even though Israel signed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights that says in Article 18, "Everyone has the right to...change his religion...and freedom...to manifest his religion or beliefs in teaching, practice, worship and observance," persecution of Christians and Jewish converts to Christianity, continues in Israel.

John McCain and Barack Obama just met with American Israel Public Affairs Committee in an attempt to garner Jewish support by asserting their support of Israel.

"Will McCain and Obama turn a blind eye to the suffering of Christians in Israel?" asked Rev. Gary Cass, of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission," adding, "Both Obama and McCain say they want change, but do either of them have the courage to challenge the powerful Jewish lobby in America? Will either of them demand true religious liberty for Christians and all faiths in Israel as a condition of American support of Israel, including the right of Christians to share their faith with Jews?"

According to the Jewish Telegraph Agency, "Israel has an estimated 8,000 so-called messianic Jews. In effect they are crypto-Christians, practicing their faith discreetly for fear of stoking hostility among mainstream Jews. Reprisals can sometimes be violent."

Gellers and her pals are pretty loathsome. But the company they're keeping is even creepier.

I found that N&O article the other day, but missed the Southern Baptist part. Raleigh Arabic Baptist Church on Six Forks, which looks as if it's affiliated with Trinity Baptist Church. Crap, I should have popped in this morning for Sunday service, but I doubt I would have been able to stomach it.

Me thinks she may have pissed off some crazies.

and how her kind loves to rub their actions into decent people's faces. Whackos...

Given the $46 million, I would have expected higher production values. Still, the linkages are highly suggestive and ought to be investigated.

between all the players is highly suggestive to say the least. This was an interesting read, and goes into greater detail than the DKos article. It's a long read but very interesting.



http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/a-curious-connection/0019357

There is no evidence linking that post to this film.

And there is also no evidence that she herself raised money for any film.

Yet people seem to be sort of half-reading this information and running with that interpretation.

...missed something... But if thats the case, she was promoting the idea

"28. For AN anti-Islamic film. Is there credible info that it was THIS anti-Islamic film?"

Maybe not a huge distinction, but a distinction nonetheless.

Granted this movie is right up her alley - and she has promoted anti-Islamic sentiments for some time.

I don't think, however, it's been established that she has funded this particular movie, which is what some appear to be suggesting.

I'm just saying, if they had nothing to do with this particular movie, then it shouldn't be claimed that they did.

FaithFreedom.org has been down for the past few days....

But is there a link to the movie in question?

Maybe it will turn out that there is, but I do not believe that any has been established at this point.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:KUXDpl37r4oJ:www.faithfreedom.org/articles/misc/a-movie-about-muhammad-an-idea-whose-time-has-come/+Ali+Sina+film&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Very first comment:



Remarkably similar to the trashy preview of IM, eh?

But it is certainly possible (and indeed likely) that various different people/groups would have a similar idea to make a film of this nature.

There are, for example, lots of spoofs of Mormons out there that are fairly similar to one another but originated from different people.

just today on Pamela Geller Atlasshrugs site.



http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/09/atlas-exclusive-robert-spencer-max-blumenthal-dhimmis-down.html

Sounds like an unintended admission to me.

He is railing against Max Blumenthal who did this article http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/sep/13/egypt-libya-hollywood-film?cat=commentisfree&type=article

I find all these connections too hard to ignore. Why would Ali Sina all of a sudden scrub any mention of the movie?

Pamela Geller's Blog Solicited Funds For AN anti-Muhammad Film - no evidence (as yet) that the blog solicited funds for this particular film. This post implies that they have.

That being said, this movie does she to be right up their alley.

The funding for it - and production of it, however, seem to have originated elsewhere.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021357666#post34

My post 34. I found a blog that goes into much greater detail on the connections, than Daily Kos. I found it highly interesting.