Perhaps if the US stopped sending billions to Israel every year...

[Viva_Daddy]

and stopped vetoing UN resolutions condemning Israel, Bebe Netanyahu will stop trying to "wag the dog".

[2on2u]

1. Purpose:

Discuss politics, issues, and current events. No posts about Israel/Palestine, religion, guns, showbiz, or sports unless there is really big news. No conspiracy theories. No whining about DU.

[Viva_Daddy]

2. I'm not whining and Netanyahu is the one making the news today.

[postulater]

5. I'm curious why the founders of DU chose

to restrict discussion of only Israel/Palestine and no other region of the Earth.

What about Ireland/England, or Scotland/England or Bears/Packers for that matter?

[2on2u]

6. Dunno, don't want to know.... don't like spending time in timeout. n/t

[Mosby]

7. the I/P conflict involves a total of about 12-13 million people

And yet at DU2 there were almost 367,000 posts about the conflict before the move to DU3, only election reform and guns have more posts.

Why do you think so many DUers are concerned about this one conflict and not any others?

[progressoid]

12. Like Israel/Palestine,

discussions about Israel/Palestine on DU became incendiary and vicious. It was easiest to sequester those discussions rather than continue the fighting.

[postulater]

17. That's probably the right answer.

Though I suspect the Bears/Packers rivalry is right up there.

[Scuba]

18. That's "Packers/Bears" flatlander.

[postulater]

20. Ha!

Here we go!

Sorry but lifelong Packer fan here.

I really was at the IceBowl. Sat in the endzone. Wrong endzone so we couldn't tell what was happening. All we knew was that the game was over. Finally. First time I was ever that cold.

[Scuba]

21. Sure, you and half a million other people.

Seriously, what a cool game to attend.

Thursday night was fun too, but the temps were slightly higher.

[postulater]

22. I watched that one on TV.

Glad you got to go. And the weather seemed perfect.

My wife was visiting family in Illinois and watched the game with some Bears fans. She was wearing her Kuhn jersey.

[sabrina 1]

13. The OP is discussing politics. Unless US policy is no longer politics?

[toddwv]

16. You mean like relations between the US and Israel chilling

because Netanyahu feels the need to constantly talk down to the US President?

[ananda]

3. Don't we send over a billion to Egypt every year too?

nt

[Mosby]

4. 1.5 billion

We also give almost a billion dollars per year to the decendents of the 1948 Palestinian refugees.

[speedoo]

11. Maybe. And Obama just had a conversation with the Egyptian President that apparantly....

had a good effect.

Obama also had a recent converstion with Bibi, and after the election, Obama will be much more free to let Netanyahu who is the boss in US - Israeli reations.

[sabrina 1]

14. So let's cut what we send Israel which is about three times that, to what we

give everyone else. Or stop sending money to anyone. The money we sent to Egypt was to support their military, who kept the people there crushed. They are still being relied on to make sure the Revolution doesn't end up becoming a real Democracy. So we'll probably keep sending them money The people have said they don't want it. But the Military will not refuse it as they want to maintain the enormous amount of power they still have there AND it is the Military who are our allies in Egypt, not the Liberal Revolutionaries.

[meow2u3]

8. Perhaps if the US attached some strings to Israeli aid

instead of giving them free rein, maybe then Bibi Netanyahoo (intentional misspelling) would behave himself.

[zellie]

19. Exactly...

Need to keep him in line...who the hell believes Iran would ever use nukes.

[BOG PERSON]

9. americans pay more for israeli defense than israeli citizens do

http://www.jpost.com/LandedPages/PrintArticle.aspx?id=284646

[Mosby]

10. the quote is wrong.

Last edited Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Budget in israel for defense is around 14 billion per year and about 2 billion of that comes from the US.

http://www.financeisrael.mof.gov.il/FinanceIsrael/Docs/En/publications/BudgetProposal2011-2012.pdf

The dollar amounts are not in thousands as stated.

converter:
http://coinmill.com/ILS_USD.html

[BumRushDaShow]

15. We do it because of the Camp David Accords' stipulations. n/t