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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:03 AM Sep 2012

Mitt Romney goes off the deep end with new defense of his embassy attack

Mitt Romney goes off the deep end with new defense of his embassy attack

by Jed Lewison

In an interview with George Stephanopoulos aired on ABC's Good Morning America, Mitt Romney offered a new explanation for why he accused President Obama of sympathizing of with the people who attacked and killed American diplomats in Libya—and as you'll see, Romney's new explanation is nothing short of insane.

Stephanopoulos started the interview by asking Romney to respond to President Obama's statement that Romney had a tendency to shoot first and aim later.

MITT ROMNEY: Well, early on, with the developments in Egypt, the embassy there put out a statement which stayed up on their website for, I think, 14-15 hours.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: But before the protestors had breached the wall.

MITT ROMNEY: Well, it first went up before they breached the wall. But it stayed up. And they reiterated the statement after they breached the wall, even after some of the tragedy in Libya, the statement stayed up. And I thought the statement was inappropriate and pointed that out.

But when Romney released his statement, that's not what he said. Instead, he said that the Obama administration's "first response" to the assault on the consulate in Benghazi was to "sympathize with those who waged the attack." But as he now admits, the embassy statement was released before the attacks. It simply could not possibly have expressed sympathy with attackers who had not yet attacked.

Faced with the incontrovertible falsehood of his attack, Romney tried a new defense:

And of course, the White House also thought it was inappropriate.

Wait, what? Now Romney thinks the White House supported his criticism of the statement? Surely, he can't be serious. Yes, the White House said the embassy's statement did not reflect official administration policy, because it didn't, but they never condemned the statement as being an expression of sympathy with America's enemies.

Yet Romney was serious:

I made the statement- my point at the same time, I think, the White House did. So I think we said about the same thing there. I just thought the statement was wrong.

That's as insane as it is inaccurate. The White House never said the statement sympathized with the killers—because it didn't. Instead, the White House said the statement wasn't official White House policy—because it wasn't. Yet Romney says "I think we said about the same thing there."

"The same thing?" Is he fucking nuts? Remember, these were his words on Tuesday night:

It’s disgraceful that the Obama administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.

That's basically an accusation of treason, and I can assure you, the White House never said anything of the sort. But now Romney is claiming that he and the White House said "about the same thing" and that they'd said it "at the same time" that he did.

That's not true, but if it were true, then what was the point of Romney's statement? It's absolutely baffling. His argument basically comes down to this:

I was right to accuse the president of sympathizing with the people who killed Americans because before the killings the U.S. Embassy in Egypt released a statement that stayed online after the killings. And the proof that I was right is that the president said basically the same thing that I did at the same time that I said it.

Seriously, this is insane. Romney is saying that he has no regrets about accusing the president of sympathizing with America's attackers because at the same time that he made the accusation, the White House was saying the same thing. Huh? Absolutely crazy. Completely unhinged. And I don't know what's worse: if Romney doesn't realize that what he's saying is mind-numbingly nuts—or if he thinks other people will be convinced by his absurd argument.

But wait: it gets worse. When George Stephanopoulous asked him what he thought of the movie that prompted the statement from the U.S. Embassy in Egypt, here's what Romney said:

I think the whole film is a terrible idea. I think him making it, promoting it showing it is disrespectful to people of other faiths. I don't think that should happen. I think people should have the common courtesy and judgment- the good judgment- not to be- not to offend other peoples' faiths. It's a very bad thing, I think, this guy's doing.

So after issuing a statement on Tuesday night slamming the embassy for rejecting the message of a bigoted movie ... Mitt Romney now does the exact same thing? In fact, he actually went beyond what the embassy said because he specifically attacked the filmmaker. The embassy's statement was a more general statement—and it recognized the "universal right to free speech."

This whole thing would be crazy enough if Romney at least disagreed with the embassy's statement. But it's clear he agrees with it. All this drama that he created was over nothing. And his completely unhinged behavior should disqualify him as a serious candidate. This week, Mitt Romney demonstrated for the world to see that he is unfit to be president. He might have been a great private equity CEO. But I don't want his finger anywhere near the nuclear button.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/14/1131716/-Mitt-Romney-goes-off-the-deep-end-with-new-defense-of-his-embassy-attack

Will anyone stop the madness? Doesn't anyone have a big hook to yank the fool off the stage?





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Mitt Romney goes off the deep end with new defense of his embassy attack (Original Post) ProSense Sep 2012 OP
i heard that yesterday cindyperry2010 Sep 2012 #1
It's not about the film. The film is an excuse for provocation possbly funded by SuperPAC money patrice Sep 2012 #2
The OP is not about the film either ProSense Sep 2012 #3
Doesn't the bizarreness of it all suggest that SOMETHING ELSE is afoot here? He's not making sense patrice Sep 2012 #4
Certainly, and the fact ProSense Sep 2012 #6
Same thing crossed my mind. Imalittleteapot Sep 2012 #8
It's good to be skeptical of one's self, but not too much. It's all connected . . . somehow. patrice Sep 2012 #11
Spot on brush Sep 2012 #10
Spelling Nazi here: 'reins' (not 'reigns'). See below: coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #14
thanks also brush Sep 2012 #20
Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #24
That is good advice, because incompetence is more probable than all of the factors that would have patrice Sep 2012 #25
Would not be surprised to hear that this is true. beveeheart Sep 2012 #26
You people don't get it. You really don't get it. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #5
OK. Stop yelling, but ProSense Sep 2012 #7
Seriously, yes, it's disturbing that his train is still on the tracks. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #9
Theory: ProSense Sep 2012 #18
Fear and rage as well. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #19
What makes race drivers better people Mopar151 Sep 2012 #28
From one shouter to another . . . +1 patrice Sep 2012 #12
I love it!!! CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #27
Exscuse me , Mr Bishop, Sir? Mopar151 Sep 2012 #29
Reduced to information the low-information voter can understand and absorb: coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #13
Thanks, gonna borrow that if you don't mind? nc4bo Sep 2012 #15
With my blessings! (Secretly feeling flattered! ;) - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #22
Mitt Romeny's alliance with CONTRACT KILLERS jamesbartel Sep 2012 #16
Ready. Shoot. Aim. BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #17
Yup! n/t ProSense Sep 2012 #21
Ready. Shoot. Aim. ... Blame. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #35
Kick! n/t ProSense Sep 2012 #23
The corporatemedia has the power to yank this Cha Sep 2012 #30
Yup, instead they sent ProSense Sep 2012 #31
Here ya go. tanyev Sep 2012 #32
Mitt forgets the old adage, "When you are in a hole, stop digging." yellowcanine Sep 2012 #33
Mitt has ordered some new equipment Mopar151 Sep 2012 #34
He complains that the web site wasn't immediately corrected after the assault? randome Sep 2012 #36
He's losing it. Quantess Sep 2012 #37

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
1. i heard that yesterday
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sep 2012

and it was like really? but he was given time to come up with a whopper of a lie and this was it

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. It's not about the film. The film is an excuse for provocation possbly funded by SuperPAC money
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:07 AM
Sep 2012

flowing through various FOREIGN banking friends of Romney.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. The OP is not about the film either
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:08 AM
Sep 2012

It's about Romney's insane lie. It makes no fucking sense, and that he decided to use it as an excuse is bizarre.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
4. Doesn't the bizarreness of it all suggest that SOMETHING ELSE is afoot here? He's not making sense
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:15 AM
Sep 2012

because the film was only a trigger for something else.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Certainly, and the fact
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:17 AM
Sep 2012

that he's still being treated as viable given his dangerous and delusional comments is surreal.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
11. It's good to be skeptical of one's self, but not too much. It's all connected . . . somehow.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:50 AM
Sep 2012

Follow the money.

And who benefits from what?

And whom is hurt by what?

brush

(53,741 posts)
10. Spot on
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:50 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:12 PM - Edit history (1)

I think you're on to it, Patrice. The timing of this film's translation to Arabic is very suspicious (8 days before 9/11). It was posted to the internet two months ago but translated and publicize just recently. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the money behind this came from some repug SuperPac. It's smells almost Rovian. They probably thought it would be a two or three day story to get Rmoney a boost in the polls but it has inflamed the whole Middle East and who know how it's going to end. These amateurs with unlimited money need to be kept as far away from the reins of foreign policy as possible.

brush

(53,741 posts)
20. thanks also
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sep 2012

Thanks for the typo tip. I corrected my post. But don't you have an opinion things to share?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,955 posts)
24. Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:44 PM
Sep 2012

No grand international foreign banking conspiracy is needed.

Romney saw he needed to get off the economy which wasn't working for him, so he directed his team to watch for opportunities to push the teabagger foreign policy memes (apologies, pro-muslim, etc.). They called him (his "3 am call" regardless of time of day) and he opportunisticly, cravenly, traitorously, jumped the gun and then later doubled down on it smirking his way through a presser.

Incompetence.

Unfit for command.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
25. That is good advice, because incompetence is more probable than all of the factors that would have
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 03:56 PM
Sep 2012

to come together for an effective conspiracy and if we think about that incompetence in a very very large (global technology) environment, its synchronicities also become more probable.

The power of money DOES tempt one to speculate against the probabilities, though, especially when it could be absolutely unlimited money.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
5. You people don't get it. You really don't get it.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:16 AM
Sep 2012

[font size=8 color = purple]YOU DON'T FUCKIN' QUESTION THE BISHOP.[/FONT]

If he says you don't need to see his taxes, you don't need to see his taxes.

If he says Obama apologized, Obama apologized.

There are no contradictions. What he says determines reality. If he changes his mind, reality changes. Retroactively if necessary.

You people with your incessant small-minded questions are just proving that you don't know your place.

Which is beneath the Bishop. Far, far beneath the Bishop.

So far beneath the Bishop that he can't hear you. He doesn't need to hear you.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
9. Seriously, yes, it's disturbing that his train is still on the tracks.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:28 AM
Sep 2012

The media have been bolder than usual in going after a Republican liar this time around too, and he's still a credible candidate to half the population.

Is it all Koch money translated into ads that's keeping him afloat? All my old classmates have my Facebook universe filled with wingnut propaganda. Funny--I don't remember them being so stupid 50 years ago (50th HS reunion coming up).

How the hell can people be that dumb, that blind, that perverse? Any nation that would elect a Romney doesn't have the sense to keep a Pol Pot out of office. God help us!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. Theory:
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:47 PM
Sep 2012

"How the hell can people be that dumb, that blind, that perverse?"

...greed, racism and/or self-loathing.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. Fear and rage as well.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:06 PM
Sep 2012

All these are things that keep people's minds operating down in the reptilian centers without much input from the cortex.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
28. What makes race drivers better people
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:17 AM
Sep 2012

Is the ability of the cortex to bitch slap that badass ol reptile brain in about .08 seconds. you gotta keep things real simple and straight forward, so as to boost processing speed and keep that prehistoric whoopassasaur on te road, and not pitchin you into the trees and hedges (dave edmunds below) Once you seize upon the ability to keep in control of that little tasmainian devil while giving him his head - it gets better.
When youre the boss of that little prick, he'll never slap your wife first, or offer to square off with an old guy with A ""MMA New Generation Offical" jacket filling up a masonry truck.
Driving fast cars demands that for a period of time, you need to be able to keep your lizard brain in control - not by being fearless, but by being in control of fear. A little rage can be a good thing, but that control circuit is easy to breaker out, and the collateral damage is apt to run into money.. Notice that, in this video the ol' road runner truth that greed ./ hubris go hand in hand. And the trouble really is cost of greed - see how going for an extra yard can be 'spensive.

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With fearful folks - if you can keep 'em riled up, you can distract them from the important stuff, while dripping venom in theough a produce sprayer to neutralize 'em. Then send the imps arount to pull credit cards and $$$ out of wallets and put them back, along with swipes of. bank atm cards.
See the heavy burdens of rage, avarice, and stupidity land on this f'n idiot like a ton of wet cement.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
27. I love it!!!
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 05:06 PM
Sep 2012

You encapsulate perfectly Romney's narcissistic attitude. The man is batshit insane. We're all supposed to digest his little nuggets of crazy without question. When he screw up and his fumbling explanations for those screw ups are given--we're supposed to eat those up as well.

It's really insulting. He has a very high opinion of himself which is un justified. He obviously believes when electorate is full of blooming idiots.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
29. Exscuse me , Mr Bishop, Sir?
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 01:30 AM
Sep 2012

2 quick questions -

Exactly who the fuck died and left you boss? What the fuck do you have left to cover up before the election? Do you eat with that mouth?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
13. Reduced to information the low-information voter can understand and absorb:
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:58 AM
Sep 2012

MITT ROMNEY LIES.

He lied about what the embassy's statement said.
He lied about when the embassy's statement was issued.
He lied about the Obama administration's response to the actual embassy statement.
He lied about the Obama administration's response even to his lie about the embassy statement.

MITT ROMNEY LIES.

jamesbartel

(5 posts)
16. Mitt Romeny's alliance with CONTRACT KILLERS
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

REMEMBER THIS Mitt Romeny is in an alliance with contract killers: In 2008 Jon Roberts confessed that he and Ricky Prado murdered Richard Schwartz who was the stepson of legendary mobster Meyer Lansky. Ricky Prado later joined the CIA in 1982 And his name became Enrique "Ricky" Prado and he obtained the rank SIS-2 an equivalent of a 2 star general, Prado ran the targeted assassination unit " ie: (contract killers unit)" first at the CIA then at BLACKWATER. Now Ademi or Xei; where he was vice president from 2004 to 2008. Enrique Prado works closely with J. Cofer Black, top adviser to Mitt Romeny now a presidential contender.
The question begs to be asked; why would Mitt Romeny, a supposedly legit business man need the services of contract killers? Did any of the various corporate entities executives that Mitt Romeny raided and stripped of cash reserves and pension funds die under suspicious circumstances???

Mitt Romeny went from College Bully to Crime Boss of a Criminal Syndicate and now has Contract killers at his disposal through his top adviser J. Cofer Black (of Blackwater fame now known as Ademei or Xei) many RNC delegates have been violence threatened by Gun, broken Bones, stolen Ballot Boxes, all stated by Richard Gilbert attorney at law representing Ron Paul and other delegates..(see Richard Gilbert You Tube videos)
REMEMBER THIS: Mitt Romeny went from College Bully to Crime Boss of a Criminal Syndicate and now has Contract killers at his disposal through his top adviser J. Cofer Black (of Blackwater fame now known as Ademei or Xei) many RNC delegates have been violence threatened by Gun, broken Bones, stolen Ballot Boxes, Never seen in this country before? I have seen it. I have seen it in Livingston County, Michigan long before Romney ran for president. Why would Mitt Romeny have contract killers around? Logic says that he must be using them! Is Romney the crime boss of a criminal syndicate? It feels that way. Mitt Romeny's Bain Capital busines plan is Vulture Capitalism which seek businesses in dire straits, David Widlak was such a person who was seeking new investors, there is a 80% certainty that they met. I am really wondering if the phone call from the Hampton country club just previous to David Widlak's death came from the one close to where Mitt Romeny has a house in the Hamptons, and why are they not reconstructing who was there when the call to David Widlak was made???
An email TIP sent to: “DonkeyD” (me); by “BlueTreeMarie” at mobile Rolling Stone Magazine:
EMAIL TO: DonkeyD, As a matter of fact there was a bank president that died
under suspicious circumstances here in Michigan. The bank he founded
was going under and he had met with some possible investors he had
expressed concern about to his wife. "He had received a phone call
just before his death from a country club in the Hamptons." He was
shot in the back of the head execution style and found in a nearby
marsh off the lake. There's more if you wish to Google it. His name
was David Widlak.
POSTED BY BLUETREEMARIE AUGUST 27, 2012, 2:38 PM
Since I know that W. Mitt Romeny has a house in the Hamptons and many connections in Michigan,
I would really like to know if he is also a member of the country club in the Hamptons from which that phone call was made.


The bank's collapse and Widlak's death have drawn in a collection of powerful political and social figures -- names including Ford, Stroh, Dingell, Hackel, Patterson, French and Booth. Some say Widlak's family won't accept the painful notion that he could have killed himself over personal and professional problems
But a team of lawyers, criminal investigators, doctors and other experts working on behalf of his widow, Anne Widlak, says the trail of forensic clues, e-mails, financial records, a nightstand memo and a washed-out note clutched in the dead man's hand point to murder. The lakeside scene alone stymies a suicide scenario, the sheriff was very quick to call the death a suicide, Former Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel and others have maintained that the evidence, though not conclusive, points strongly to David Widlak's death as a suicide. Investigators hired by his widow, Anne Widlak, said their work -- sometimes drawing contrary conclusion from the same evidence -- indicates homicide. Some key points:
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BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
17. Ready. Shoot. Aim.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:19 PM
Sep 2012

And then try to explain why you Cheney'd someone rather then hit the quail.

This is how you can tell when Darth is moving the puppet's mouth.

Cha

(296,844 posts)
30. The corporatemedia has the power to yank this
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 02:03 AM
Sep 2012

sociopathic Liar off the stage but do you think they're going to miss out on all that Kochroach money?

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
31. Yup, instead they sent
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 08:00 AM
Sep 2012

the neocon chickenhawk cavalry to the Sunday talk shows to offer lame defenses of Mitt, even agreeing with him.

Considering the point of the OP, either these people or fools or they believe most Americans are fools, which would make them fools.



yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
33. Mitt forgets the old adage, "When you are in a hole, stop digging."
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 09:10 AM
Sep 2012

There is no point in Mitt discussing this further. Anything he says hurts him. He just keeps the story alive and continues to remind swing voters why they don't like him.

Mopar151

(9,974 posts)
34. Mitt has ordered some new equipment
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:35 AM
Sep 2012

So he can dig into the shitpile faster.


He thinks he'll be OK when he gets through the shitpile. But he'll find that deep shit and quicksand have similar carachteristics - especially the part about the shitpile sucking you down faster the more you stir it up!

Watch this guy illustrate the classic "slippery slope", and several other political cliches:
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
36. He complains that the web site wasn't immediately corrected after the assault?
Mon Sep 17, 2012, 10:43 AM
Sep 2012

Hey, Mitt! They might have been a little busy then! What a douche-bag!

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