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Who the fuck is this Terry Jones (Original Post) bigdarryl Sep 2012 OP
I believe in free speech.. but damn flyguyjake Sep 2012 #1
And dick head Romney the first thing he does is attack Obama bigdarryl Sep 2012 #3
Not the one from Monty Python I presume :( Electric Monk Sep 2012 #2
I know, I hate that they share the same name... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #16
who gave him the production $$, assistance and connections to send a film over there? Sunlei Sep 2012 #4
See comment #6 n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #7
Qur'an burning Florida preacher DreamGypsy Sep 2012 #5
Info regarding the film and where the money came from (it was made by Sam Bacile), see below Tx4obama Sep 2012 #6
Thanks for tracking the money Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #9
re:congregation Alan Palmer Sep 2012 #10
It was the BBC who'd reported Terry Jones name in this connection dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #14
In the article on the link I posted above it says ... Tx4obama Sep 2012 #15
I see your point dipsydoodle Sep 2012 #17
In what way is the timing suspect? cali Sep 2012 #8
like Alan Palmer Sep 2012 #11
Because of the election in fithty some days bigdarryl Sep 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #12
"Pastor" Terry Jones DCFairbank Sep 2012 #18
 

flyguyjake

(492 posts)
1. I believe in free speech.. but damn
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:35 AM
Sep 2012

When a public figure is in-sighting hate, prejudice and terrorism, shouldn't he be shut down?

My issue is look at what hate he's caused towards American in other countries. This is why we get attacked. He's DUMPING GALLONS OF FUEL on the fire of hatred towards America!

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/09/pastor-who-wants-to-burn-korans-uses-n-word/

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
3. And dick head Romney the first thing he does is attack Obama
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:41 AM
Sep 2012

Nothing about this asshole Terry Jones.I hope the family of the person killed sues this piece of shit

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
2. Not the one from Monty Python I presume :(
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:40 AM
Sep 2012


Interesting wiki on the "other one"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_World_Outreach_Center_Quran-burning_controversy#Terry_Jones

Terry Jones was born in October 1951 in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.[9] He attended college for two years, worked at a hotel, and joined the now defunct Maranatha Campus Ministries.[9] He moved to Cologne, Germany, where in 1981 he founded a charismatic church, the Christian Community of Cologne (CGK).[9][10]

Jones received an honorary degree from an unaccredited theology school in 1983, and began using the title "Doctor." He was fined for this misuse of a credential title by a German administrative court.[9][11] By the late 2000s (decade), the CGK grew to have a membership of approximately 800–1000.[10] According to the German magazine, Der Spiegel, the congregation kicked Jones out in 2008 due to the "climate of fear and control" that he employed, which included elements of "brainwashing" and telling congregants to beat their children with rods.[10] He was accused of improper use of church funds, and forcing congregants to labor for free.[10] A leader of the Cologne church said Jones did not "project the biblical values and Christianity, but always made himself the center of everything." Others accused him of being violent and fanatical.[12] Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported that church members said Jones ran the Cologne church like a cult, using psychological pressure.[13]

Between 2001 and 2008, Jones served as the part-time pastor of the Gainesville, Florida church Dove World Outreach, frequently traveling back and forth between Germany and the United States.[9][14] Jones assumed full-time duties at Dove World Outreach in 2008 after leaving the German church.[9] By September 2010, Dove World was said to have 50 members,[15] with about 30 members reportedly attending services.[9]

In 2010 Jones published Islam Is of the Devil, a polemic that claims Islam promotes violence, and that Muslims want to impose sharia law in the United States.[16][17] After Jones announced the Quran burning, the German Evangelical Alliance denounced his theological statements and his craving for attention.[18]

Following an invitation from the English Defence League, Jones considered attending a rally in Luton in the U.K. in February 2011 to share his views. The anti-fascist group Hope not Hate petitioned the Home Secretary to ban Jones from entering the country.[19] In January 2011 the Home Secretary announced that Jones would be refused entry to the UK 'for the public good'.[20]

Jones' actions have prompted a religious group to place a $1.2 million bounty on his head; Hezbollah, a Lebanese political party and religious group, has announced a $2 million bounty.[21][22]

Jones planned to visit the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn, Michigan to protest what he claims is "creeping sharia", but was arrested and jailed for a few hours.[23][24] Soon after he was interviewed at WJBK-TV, Jones' gun fired accidentally as he got into his car.[25]

The city allowed him to protest a week later in a designated "free speech zone" outside Dearborn City Hall.[26] Muslim protesters also appeared in opposition to his statements and actions.


http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/the-movie-so-offensive-that-egyptians-just-stormed-the-us-embassy-over/262225/
Terry Jones, the Florida Koran-burner, allegedly made a movie vilifying Egypt's Muslims, and the Egyptian media got ahold of some clips.
 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
16. I know, I hate that they share the same name...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:53 AM
Sep 2012

TJ of MP is brilliant, the other one's a sociopath.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. who gave him the production $$, assistance and connections to send a film over there?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:50 AM
Sep 2012

Jones didn't think of anything on his own except the basic bigot speak

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
5. Qur'an burning Florida preacher
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 03:54 AM
Sep 2012

Terry Jones is the Qur'an burning preacher from Florida.

Later reports suggest he is not (directly) connected with the film that sparked the Egypt and Libya protests.

From an AP article:

Sam Bacile, an American citizen who said he produced, directed and wrote the two-hour film, said he had not anticipated such a furious reaction.

"I feel sorry for the embassy. I am mad," Bacile said.

Speaking from a telephone with a California number, Bacile said he is Jewish and familiar with the region. Bacile said the film was produced in English and he doesn't know who dubbed it in Arabic. The full film has not been shown yet, he said, and he said he has declined distribution offers for now.

"My plan is to make a series of 200 hours" about the same subject, he said.

Morris Sadek, an Egyptian-born Christian in the U.S. known for his anti-Islam views, told The Associated Press from Washington that he was promoting the video on his website and on certain TV stations, which he did not identify.

Both depicted the film as showing how Coptic Christians are oppressed in Egypt, though it goes well beyond that to ridicule Muhammad - a reflection of their contention that Islam as a religion is inherently oppressive.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
6. Info regarding the film and where the money came from (it was made by Sam Bacile), see below
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:08 AM
Sep 2012

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014226315



Film That Sparked Cairo, Bengazi Protests The Work Of An American-Israeli
Source: The Australian

THE film at the centre of anti-US protests in the Middle East was made by an Israeli-American who describes Islam as a "cancer", the Wall Street Journal says.

The movie, Innocence of Muslims, was directed and produced by Sam Bacile, a 52-year-old real-estate developer from southern California who says Islam is a hateful religion.

"Islam is a cancer," Mr Bacile told the newspaper.

--clip--

Mr Bacile told the paper on Tuesday he was responsible for the film, saying he had raised $US5 million ($A4.81 million) to make it from about 100 Jewish donors, who he declined to identify.


Read more: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/middle-east-in-turmoil/film-that-sparked-cairo-bengazi-protests-the-work-of-an-american-israeli/story-fn7ycml4-1226472497757



dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
14. It was the BBC who'd reported Terry Jones name in this connection
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:35 AM
Sep 2012

The film which sparked the protest is said to have been produced by US pastor Terry Jones and co-produced by some Egyptian Copt expatriates.

Scroll to bottom of this link : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19562688

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
15. In the article on the link I posted above it says ...
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:41 AM
Sep 2012


-snip-

It is being promoted by controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones, who has drawn protests in the past for burning the Koran and vehemently opposing the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero in New York.

Jones said he planned to show a 13-minute clip of the film on Tuesday evening at his church in Gainesville, Florida.

-snip-


I don't think Terry Jones has the money or the brains to be involved in the 'making' the film - I think he's only a person that was going to show part of the film and he probably got that off of the internet.

Maybe tomorrow there will be more details out.


dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
17. I see your point
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:54 AM
Sep 2012

but the BBC had posted that at 11 September 2012 Last updated at 19:56 BST which would be late Tuesday morning in CA. Presumably then there was advance notice of Jones event.

Meanwhile Reuters are currently reporting :

On Tuesday, Egypt's prestigious Al-Azhar mosque and seat of Sunni learning condemned a symbolic "trial" of the Prophet organized by a U.S. group including Terry Jones, a Christian pastor who triggered riots in Afghanistan in 2010 by threatening to burn the Koran.

But it was not immediately clear whether it was the event sponsored by Jones, or another, possibly related, anti-Islam production, that prompted the melee at the U.S. Embassy in Egypt, and possibly the violence in Libya.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/uk-egypt-usa-protest-idUKBRE88A12V20120912 Libya | Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:25am BST

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. In what way is the timing suspect?
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 04:14 AM
Sep 2012

Jones does this shit regularly.

He's a cracked, hateful fuckwad "minister".

Response to bigdarryl (Original post)

DCFairbank

(1 post)
18. "Pastor" Terry Jones
Wed Sep 12, 2012, 11:25 AM
Sep 2012

I hope that this bigot Terry feels justified in his actions. Obviously, this man calls himself a “Christian”. I hope he feels that the life of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens was worth the hateful, intolerant messages he has been spewing.

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