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Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:51 AM

How to put this into words.......

I had the dubious honor of being at a national car club event last week. Several of us wanted to hear President Obama's speech so we gathered in one hotel room for the event. We wanted to enjoy the moment and not have to listen to the negative comments of our fellow traveling companions. How sad is it when you have to hide away in order to express pride and gratitude for the President.

I am telling you that there are still many crazy Rethugs out there who just can not face the music. We are from Ohio and these folks were venomous. My favorite comment was, 'Well I would agree with Obama's words. If he weren't such a liar I could vote for him!' 'Lies!', I said, 'Were you the least bit concerned that we were lied into a war in Iraq that we didn't pay a penny for for ten years?' He actually replied that we were not lied into anything! I had to walk away before my blood boiled!

On a drive Saturday, three out of five people in the car said that they were sick and tired of taking care of the poor. They went on and on about how the lazy poor people should get up and get a job! They seriously have contempt for the poor! To make matters worse they are not afraid to say it. They acted like everyone in the car felt the same way and were not ashamed to speak these thoughts out loud.

I never heard them touch on health care but I do know that three of the people in our group have been treated for cancer in their lifetime. One is actually undergoing chemo right now! They are all on Medicare yet they have no concerns about future care.

The most bizarre thing is that the Obama supporters do not talk politics, yet the Rethugs feel the need to bring it up at every opportunity. Saturday evening at the banquet the eight Ohioans were seated together. As if like clockwork they started in. Toad number two remarks that it is 'still a free country' and then realizing that he is in Canada says, 'Oh I take that back, we're in Canada!" Well I couldn't stand it any more. I turned to him and said, ' I wouldn't be so proud, at least Canada does not have the Patriot Act!' He started to bubble a response leading with the word 'Obama' and the fellow across the table told him to shut the *ell up.

There you have it. The Fauxbots will not stop for a minute. They dig and pick until finally, four days later someone has to tell them to shut up. They have no problem deliberately disrupting a fine meal with their ignorant comments and actions.

The funny thing is that these 'anti-socialists' are the first people to want to travel in a pack so that the mechanics in the group can help with repairs if they break down. They are the first to use the antifreeze that the socialist packed in case of an emergency. Always gripe, never a solution.

Always follow... never lead!

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:56 AM

1. Take heart (I hope)

That they will be stewing in their own pots for the next four years.
That they will be hugely disappointed.
They will develop ulcers from their incessant hatred.
They will need to "move on" with their lives.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:57 AM

2. The crazy Rethug's brains are wired differently. There is really no hope for

most of them. You've probably seen the studies, but if not I can post some links. In work situations it used to be hard for me to keep my mouth shut ... they are such butt-heads.


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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:19 AM

4. Definitely wired differently!

Me first! Me first! Toad number one said that if Obama gets in he won't mind because the interest rates will stay low on his mortgages! Crack me up. Always looking out for number one.

My family members are very wRong Winged and I literally can't be in the same room with them. I have suffered many years with this but finally, this spring I said enough is enough. We will never see eye to eye on anything!

I have seen some of the studies but would be interested in any link that you have.

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Response to peace13 (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:25 AM

5. I think this link seems pretty good -

"Your Brain on Politics: The Cognitive Neuroscience of Liberals and Conservatives"

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/09/07/your-brain-on-politics-the-cognitive-neuroscience-of-liberals-and-conservatives/

PS: I also posted the article in GD, it seems so appropriate at this time with the presidential elections, etc.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:29 AM

7. Medical research does tell us it is wired differently

And that research is scary.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:34 AM

8. It is!!! I just posted a link here in this thread and also in GD for an in depth discussion. I do

find it quite scary ... seeming that for some beliefs are probably unshakable.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021311647

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:37 AM

9. Genetics makes some sense

being hypervigilant makes sense if you are a hunter.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:39 AM

10. Yes it does! It's the old "conditioned vs. heredity" discussion for human brain development. n/t

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:07 AM

3. It is true; Democrats are treated as ill tempered and have bad manners if they say anything, but

Teapublicans and Libertarians are being "patriotic" and are admired in WHATEVER they say.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:27 AM

6. one thing to consider is that

their constant repeating of lies to one another- (and that is what it is) may be because they know, deep down,
that something isn't 'right' with their stand. Like their conscience is poking them and making them uncomfortable, so they spout off their "beliefs/talking points" looking for support- and conformation, and when they get it from each other it numbs their doubts a little.
If someone dares to say something that deepens their self-doubt, it makes them really angry and unsettled.

People who are secure in what they believe don't usually have to keep looking for others to confirm that theirs is the correct position for them. They aren't threatened by those who hold opposing views, and can point out why they believe what they do with facts and reason.

I think the level of crazy in the republican party is as high as it is, because people are fighting really hard to believe the unbelievable and to defend the indefensible-

at least from what I'm seeing and experiencing.

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Response to Bluerthanblue (Reply #6)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:47 PM

14. +1,000

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Response to Bluerthanblue (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 11, 2012, 11:29 AM

16. Great point.

I need to remind myself of this before contact! My family members are some of the faithful followers and your comments are very true!

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:40 AM

11. Republicans love to bring up politics everywhere, all the time.

My husband and I are constantly bombarded with anti-Obama/Democrat comments from people we barely know, new coworkers, neighbors, etc. They assume we must be "one of them" because of my husband's military career. I finally told one neighbor I was a Democrat and supported Obama, and haven't gotten a hello from him since. Because that's the kind of people Republicans are: insecure, angry, intolerant pants-wetters.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:06 PM

12. I hear you man. Exchanges like that are SEVERELY straining my friendships

The sheer amount of open venom is unbelievable. So true as well about conservatives trying to politicize every aspect of nearly every conversation, no matter the subject. I can't imagine the extra stress that all the hate can generate would be like to live with.

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Response to peace13 (Original post)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:44 PM

13. About the stereotype of welfare recipients being "lazy":

You need to remind them that since 1996, welfare only lasts for 3 years at a stretch, 5 years total for a lifetime. That's not a "lifestyle." You don't "choose" welfare instead of a job. It's a temporary safety net for when you can't find work. That's all it is now.

Somebody's been lying to these Republicans and they're swallowing it wholesale.

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Response to Qutzupalotl (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:11 PM

15. Thanks for the reminder! n/t

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