Albertsons Store Closings Identified

[Sherman A1]

MINNEAPOLIS — The Albertsons stores slated for closure in Southern California are spread throughout the region, while the 22 Save-A-Lots slated to be closed are mostly in the Southeast and Pacific Northwest.
As previously reported, Supervalu is planning to close 60 stores across the country by year-end, including eight it has not yet identified. The list includes four Acme stores (Morrisville, Pa.; Glassboro, N.J.; Sharon Hill, Pa.; and Stevensville, Md.) and one Jewel-Osco (Michigan City, Ind.).

Following is the list of specific Albertsons closings provided to SN by Supervalu:
Southern California:
• Mesmer & Jefferson, Culver City (already closed)
• 7th & Redondo, Long Beach
• Harbor & Garden Grove Boulevard, Garden Grove
• Harbor Bouevard & Imperial Highway, Fullerton
• Dale & La Palma, Buena Park
• Brookhurst & Katella, Anaheim
• Baldwin Hills, Los Angeles
• Central & Chevy Chase, Glendale
• Devonshire & Reseda, Northridge
• Van Nuys & Sherman, Van Nuys
• Bear Valley & Amethyst Roads, Victorville
• Pigeon Pass & Ironwood, Moreno Valley
• Colima & Fairway Drive, Rowland Heights
• Hamner Avenue & Hidden Valley Parkway, Norco
• Grove Ave & Walnut Street, Ontario
• Limonite & Clay, Riverside
• Amar & Nogales, Walnut
• Azusa & Cypress, Covina
Oregon:
• La Grande
• Corvallis
Washington:
• North Marysville
• Juanita, Kirkland
• Benson & 208th, Kent
• Lacey
• North Auburn
• Bonney Lake, Sumner


Read More: http://supermarketnews.com/retail-amp-financial/albertsons-store-closings-identified#ixzz263LwlA87

[99th_Monkey]

1. They could ALL be closed as far as I'm concerned

I could care less, provided they are mostly transformed into neighborhood
friendly fool cooperatives, or something at least resembling that, where they
market LOCAL produce and products as much as is possible.

[Javaman]

2. The people who work at those stores thank you...

[99th_Monkey]

17. Keep the workers. Buy building. Transform

into a more locally-based food store. I've actually done this
once, in Eugene Oregon about 12 years ago.

[Javaman]

25. So then do it again.

in the mean time what you describe is nothing more than kicking hardworking people out of work.

[99th_Monkey]

30. Jeesh!

These stores are ALREADY closing, for whatever reasons.

Please don't try putting words in my mouth, because they just
don't fit very well.

All I said was that some of these "tragedies" can be turned
around, if and when people can shake off their "oh NO"s and
roll up their sleeves to put workers back to work on a more
locally based business model.

BTW - If I DID live in one of these communities that is losing
their Albersons store, I would indeed "do it again".. even
though I am seriously retired from such work.

[Javaman]

38. What words? You claimed something and I asked you do to it again...

and I go back to your original post...

"They could ALL be closed as far as I'm concerned
I could care less, provided they are mostly transformed into neighborhood
friendly fool cooperatives, or something at least resembling that, where they
market LOCAL produce and products as much as is possible."

So where did I put words in your mouth?

[99th_Monkey]

39. That I want to kick "hardworking people out of work" <- those words.

Nothing could be further from the truth of what I feel about
the value of good jobs and respect for working people.

I've just never liked Albersons Inc.

It does suck that union jobs are being lost this way, I
totally agree.

I plead guilty to a bit of hyperbol in my OP. My bad..

[Javaman]

45. I wrote a sarcastic reply to a very disingenuous comment by you

If you can't own up to it, that's not my problem. And if you are trying to turn this around and make it my problem, you have failed miserably.

I go back to your original post. It speaks for itself.

"They could ALL be closed as far as I'm concerned
I could care less, provided they are mostly transformed into neighborhood
friendly fool cooperatives, or something at least resembling that, where they
market LOCAL produce and products as much as is possible."


Words have impact. Think before you write.

good day.

[99th_Monkey]

47. I have nothing more to apologize for

except maybe being so gullible as to think I could have an intelligent
conversation with you.

I don't think it could be any more obvious that I have "owned" what
I said already, where I pleaded "guilty" of being a bit hyperbolic in
my OP. I just don't like Albersons Inc. never have, never will, so
my OP was admittedly a bit over the top, and could have been
clearer as to what I was suggesting as a possible solution.

The only real "problems" in any real sense have nothing to do
with me or with you; but have everything to do with the twin tragedies
that:
a) people in the surrounding neighborhoods where closures occur
now have no where to buy groceries affordably, and ....
b) that the workers at the store will lose their jobs.

My OP made a constructive suggestion to address both of these very
real problems. I guess "no good deed goes unpunished", right?

BTW - the acrimonious patronizing tone you use is quite unnecessarily
offensive and disrespectful. If that's how you treat people you barely
know online, I pity those nearest to you.

Congratulations, you've just made my "ignore" list. A total of 2, including
you.

[Javaman]

49. Thanks!

Last edited Wed Sep 12, 2012, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)

so since I'm on your ignore list. I could use this moment to write anything I want and you will never see it!

Oh the power!

And here is my statement in one word.

Meh.

you have to go on and on and explain your comment away instead of owning it.

Cheers to you, cheers to you!

Oh one more thing.

Meh.

On edit: I see you own up to your comment further down thread, and still you got mad at me for pointing out exactly what another poster pointed out. funny how that is, huh?

Weeeee!

[Codeine]

28. Eugene, Oregon is a fairly unique environment.

The reality of this is good union jobs going away, and silly fever-dreams about organic locavore co-ops are really illustrative of just how out of touch some Democrats can be when it comes to the plight of blue-collar, service-sector workers.

[GObamaGO]

33. +1000

[GObamaGO]

3. Big loss of good union labor

Some of these neighborhoods (particularly in southern California) will not have anything replacing these closing stores, putting more of an economic strain on already struggling families.

Your post is insensitive.

[99th_Monkey]

18. Please see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021310445#post17

[HappyMe]

4. What?

- People will lose their jobs
- Another market may not take it's place. Which means no replacement jobs and no close by shopping for people.
- Empty buildings can become eyesores.

[99th_Monkey]

19. Please see ^^^ above

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021310445#post17

[Sherman A1]

5. Your response

does appear to be rather mean spirited. Those are real people who work there.

I suspect you are unsatisfied with their service or product and while I understand that frustration, I would think directing that frustration at the corporate management would serve you better. The people in the stores are often doing the best they can with the directions they are given.

[99th_Monkey]

20. Sorry if I offended

My intent was to see this apparent "tragedy" as an opportunity.

Opportunity for the workers to organize, WITH the support of their
Union, to buy-out the freaking store for pennies on the dollar, and
create a worker food co-op, that is more locally based and provides
more healthy food alternatives.

Now how is that being mean-spirited?

[GObamaGO]

34. The statement that you couldn't care less about the stores closing

was the part that was mean-spirited.

[99th_Monkey]

36. I've just never liked Albersons Inc.

It does suck that union jobs are being lost this way, I
totally agree.

I plead guilty to a bit of hyperbol here. My bad..

[Javaman]

50. See? was that so hard?

you bust on me for pointing out your callous statement, but instead you get all high and mighty to me, and dig deeper.

[Sherman A1]

41. No, I got your meaning.

I read and understood the full text of your post. Yes, they perhaps could all get together buy the building and operate it as a co-op, assuming a whole lot of things fall into place in just the right fashion. Most likely, that as I am sure you know will not happen and the stores will go empty, the people laid off and nobody wins. I think your idea is hopeful, your choice of wording perhaps less than empathic.

SuperValu as a company is struggling with the effects of some poor management decisions over the last several years and trying to either sell out or recover. These particular stores may have had many problems, but they were most likely at least in part caused by those poor management decisions. It is unfortunate that the communities and the employees are the ones to suffer.

[99th_Monkey]

42. Thanks for weighing in, for the understanding, and the new info

and especially thanks for not assuming I have horns and a tail for
simply wanting to think outside the box, of "Oh no! Our corporate
masters are taking our jobs. We are doomed!!" and rather to organize,
organize and organize some more, so the local community affected
may take back control of their food security and availability.

I'm honesty stunned at how many DU peeps seemed utterly oblivious
to the heart of what I was saying. Saddened actually

Also, please know that I owned up-string that my little rant about "I
could care less if ALL Albertsons stores shut down tomorrow" or some
such in my OP. That it was mostly hyperbole; mostly because I've just
have never liked Albersons, for a number of reasons that I'm not going
to go into here, as I'm not into inviting another round of snarky attacks
on me and my character for not being in lockstep with the "Oh-No!"
hand-wringers.

[Texasgal]

8. Lovely.

The unemployed thank you for your kindness.

Is your latte' getting cold?

[KamaAina]

12. That's not what happened when they pulled out of the Bay Area

Some were bought by Save Mart and reopened under their pre-Albertson's name, Lucky. But most either turned into cheap discount clothing stores or sit empty.

[99th_Monkey]

21. I did this kind of conversion 12 years ago

When Safeway pulled out of low-income area of town because they
wanted all stores to have bigger footprint so their ads could all be
used for all stores.

It was the ONLY full-service market within liked 6-7 mile radius.
I helped to broker a deal with the City of Eugene, to provide interest
free loan money to Red Apple (a smaller footprint, more locally
owned and oriented market chain). That Red Apple is still there
serving that neighborhood, loans all paid off to city, etc.

Sorry if my post apparently didn't have enough detail for folks to
clearly understand what I was attempting to communicate.

[KamaAina]

23. How ironic. Safeway just opened a small "Market by Safeway" in downtown San Jose.

On the ground floor of a fancy condo building, natch. About a third the size of most of their stores.

Thing is, a local chain, Zanotto's, was already up the street. Emphasis on "was".

[99th_Monkey]

26. That is ironic. Perhaps times have changed

and Safeway has apparently incorporated a smaller scale
store into their operations. good for them.

Sorry to hear about Zanotto's

[Codeine]

29. "It was the ONLY full-service market within liked 6-7 mile radius. "

There you go. These are largely stores smackdab in the middle of some of the most competitive grocery markets in the country. Transforming an Albertson's into a granola-oriented local food co-op is wildly unlikely to succeed.

[HappyMe]

46. Agreed.

Would the food co-op be able to hire all the workers back at the same rate of pay and benefits? Would any in the neighborhood be able to even afford the food there?

[Autumn]

14. Maybe they will become Wal Mart Neighborhood Markets

They just opened one in the old Safeway building here.

[Raine]

15. You are really dreaming if you think a coop will go up in there place. nt

[99th_Monkey]

22. You are correct. I am dreaming..

In case you haven't noticed, it's the dreamers (who also DO)
who make most of the positive changes in this world. Please
see John Lennon and get back to me on that one.

Please also see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021310445#post21

[HiPointDem]

43. well, they won't be transformed into those things.

[99th_Monkey]

44. HiPointDem has spoken. ** crickets **

your pronouncement of hopelessness I'm sure it a great
comfort to the workers loosing their jobs.

Shame on you.

[taught_me_patience]

6. The 7th and Redondo store sucks real bad

It is my neighborhood store, but I'm glad to see it go. It is in a prime location, and I'm sure another chain will renovate and move in.

I prefer the Ralphs on 4th and Orizaba.

[Johnyawl]

7. Closing one in my town, (Washington)...

...won't effect me, I don't shop at Albertsons, and the two stores I do shop at are both union stores. It's sad people are losing their jobs, my town doesn't need the job loses.

[opiate69]

9. the one in Lacey is small and old, and literally next door to a big, remodeled Safeway..

Sad about the lost jobs, but without a major change in marketing and upgrades, kind of inevitable. Hopefully the impact on those employees will be minimal.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

10. They're so bloody expensive

I only shop there when I have to get a few items and don't want to burn gas. But their prices are a lot higher than places like Stater Brothers. Not surprising that the Albertson's store in my neighborhood is always nearly empty while Stater's is packed. Stater's also won some loyalty from me because, as I recall, they cut a deal with the union a few years ago during the grocery workers' strike rather than bring in scabs like the others.

[GObamaGO]

40. Funny that!

By us, the Ralphs is more expensive. And we do not have a Stater Bros. near enough to make a regular trip.

[sad sally]

11. Walmart must be thrilled - more available out of work trained people that can be paid less

[shanti]

13. none left here in Sacramento

they closed them all awhile ago.

[KamaAina]

24. What happened to them?

See my post above. I doubt that any of yours became Lucky, either.

[LeftyMom]

32. The exact same thing that happened in the Bay Area.

Well, except that they are operated under the Save Mart brand rather than as Lucky (sort of like how we have Raley's and the baeriea has Nob Hill but they're the same store.)

My observation is that the quality of the produce and the cleanliness of the stores improved significantly under the new management.

[nc4bo]

16. My hubby's mom will be losing her Acme in Glassboro, NJ....

Old store that hadn't updated its interior in decades but she loved it.

[slackmaster]

31. Some of their products are fantastic

[Cleita]

35. I stopped shopping there and started doing most of my grocery shopping at

Trader Joe's. I find my food bill is less than Albertson's in spite of a lack of all the gimmicks, games, discount card and coupons. Maybe if they address this they can become competitive again.

[slackmaster]

37. I honored picket lines during the 2003 boycott of Albertson's and other major chain supermarkets

And for the most part never went back. I discovered that there were better sources for the products I use.

[Liberal_in_LA]

48. Devonshire and Reseda, I used to shop there. Still have the Albertson discount key fob thingy