Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:03 PM

Santorum to Mother of Cancer Survivor: Sick to Blame for Pre-Existing Conditions Should Be Charged

http://www.truth-out.org/santorum-mother-cancer-survivor-sick-blame-pre-existing-conditions-should-be-charged-more/1325876124

During a town hall in Keene, New Hampshire this morning, Rick Santorum told a mother whose son survived cancer that people with pre-existing conditions should pay more for health care coverage because they make poor health care choices. While specifically exempting the woman’s child from personal blame, Santorum insisted that the sick cost more to insure and insurers should charge them higher premiums:

At today’s event, Santorum claimed that the pre-existing conditions clause in the Affordable Care Act — which will prevent insurers from denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or charging them more for coverage — would increase health care costs because people would wait until they’re sick to purchase coverage and refuse to heed the mandate. But as the Massachusetts health law demonstrated, the mandate will likely encourage younger and healthier people to purchase coverage before they fall ill and help reduce the number of so-called “free riders.” Reform also expands the risk pool so the costs of the sick people are paid for with the premiums of the healthy. Once they fall ill, their costs will be borne by the next generation of healthy beneficiaries.

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Santorum to Mother of Cancer Survivor: Sick to Blame for Pre-Existing Conditions Should Be Charged (Original post)	sinkingfeeling	Jan 2012	OP
The entire point of insurance is to spread any costs group wide.	Trillo	Jan 2012	#1
Risk sharing left the model a while ago. It's all about risk mitigation now....	Scuba	Jan 2012	#2
He's torn between two impulses	nxylas	Jan 2012	#6
nice reference to Scrooge there....	Tom1960	Jan 2012	#65
he deserves google. he is the very definition of it.	roguevalley	Jan 2012	#32
+1	fortyfeetunder	Jan 2012	#113
+1! nt	CherylK	Jan 2012	#141
no, the entire point of private health insurance is one thing - PROFIT, destroy it and go to	stockholmer	Jan 2012	#140
This message was self-deleted by its author	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#3
You love the word 'fuck,' I see.	i was a cathar	Jan 2012	#15
If you decide to stick around, you may discover that we sometimes curse.	11 Bravo	Jan 2012	#18
I don't got me no pearls to clutch.	i was a cathar	Jan 2012	#22
I get that, but perhaps you might consider waiting until at least your second day at DU ...	11 Bravo	Jan 2012	#25
In all fairness....	TheEuclideanOne	Jan 2012	#68
I bet you don't even got no fucking cows to come home.	undeterred	Jan 2012	#76
This message was hidden by jury decision.	TheEuclideanOne	Jan 2012	#81
try this	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#123
LOL..n/t	whathehell	Jan 2012	#71
To each his own	slay	Jan 2012	#26
Re: "I tend to keep my ...	markpkessinger	Jan 2012	#43
Well, I don't guess I "try" to keep them to a minimum - it just kind of happens that way	slay	Jan 2012	#52
Speaking of Santorum	TheEuclideanOne	Jan 2012	#69
Good point	slay	Jan 2012	#78
That creep Santorum inspires me to curse, more than any other candidate.	Quantess	Jan 2012	#89
hoping someone will meet him in NH with a "get out of my crotch" sign	wordpix	Jan 2012	#93
He is vile, but Gingrich is the king of hateable. nt	Lucky Luciano	Jan 2012	#100
If Gingrich is the one who gets your blood pressure and nausea rising, I can see why!	Quantess	Jan 2012	#105
LOL @ free speech on DU!	sivansanabliss	Jan 2012	#128
Excuse me - would you care to elaborate?	slay	Jan 2012	#136
This message was hidden by jury decision.	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#29
And he is already gone again.	PA Democrat	Jan 2012	#41
he posted	Charlemagne	Jan 2012	#83
consider sadtorum told sick people to fuck off and die, the wordage was appropriate	roguevalley	Jan 2012	#33
Agreed. n/t	whathehell	Jan 2012	#73
Niceley Said .... But ...	Royal-T	Jan 2012	#49
I assess the effectiveness of the word, overused or no, according to the speaker.	crim son	Jan 2012	#50
THAT is what offends you? THAT???	Zoeisright	Jan 2012	#110
It just disgusts me is all.	sivansanabliss	Jan 2012	#129
There's sure some fucking thing about that fucking fucker that fucking makes me want to say "fuck."	Gidney N Cloyd	Jan 2012	#27
P- RICK Santorum loves to fuck and had seven kids to prove it	julian09	Jan 2012	#137
sniff, sniff	fascisthunter	Jan 2012	#80
I really like the word:	jonthebru	Jan 2012	#91
My 84 year old mother	ohheckyeah	Jan 2012	#107
Fuck yeah.	Rozlee	Jan 2012	#92
Hating Santorum IS classy. nt	valerief	Jan 2012	#97
WTF	bpj62	Jan 2012	#4
As The Mother Of A Cancer Surviving Kid	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#5
God bless you both of you. Don't be down from him. he's sick in the head himself.	roguevalley	Jan 2012	#37
We Are Keepin On	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#46
Me too. What exactly did my sister do that caused her to get breast cancer, Rick?	SlimJimmy	Jan 2012	#8
your sister is good. she is innocent. Santorum on the other hand is sick in the head	roguevalley	Jan 2012	#38
She's a survivor, so thankfully, I will be able to giver her a hug.	SlimJimmy	Jan 2012	#88
this guy sure shows his ignorance	newspeak	Jan 2012	#133
Why is it	Blacksheep214	Jan 2012	#62
Sorry and very good response to the creep Santorum	wordpix	Jan 2012	#94
WOW	BobbyBoring	Jan 2012	#12
I wish I could rec this post and strongly suggest you consider	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2012	#23
I wholeheartedly support everything you just said	slay	Jan 2012	#28
Add my neice, now 16, who was 2 when she was diagnosed with cancer.	JoePhilly	Jan 2012	#35
I wish you and your son the best in hope and wellness. don't let a	roguevalley	Jan 2012	#36
More offensive than fuck to many here	hootinholler	Jan 2012	#56
Rick, I COULDN'T make the choice to have rheumatoid arthritis!	Joe Bacon	Jan 2012	#57
You and your son are in my thoughts.	Brickbat	Jan 2012	#77
As an obviously caring parent and person,	tpsbmam	Jan 2012	#79
I would be very surprised	Ms. Toad	Jan 2012	#86
I can only hope that your child continues to be well.	olegramps	Jan 2012	#121
wow	Skittles	Jan 2012	#142
his comment was both ignorant and heartless	noiretextatique	Jan 2012	#147
I had to rec	sellitman	Jan 2012	#7
gives you an idea just how incredibly stupid his followers are.	rurallib	Jan 2012	#13
Jesus refused to cure the sick because they could not pay him, right? nt	Deep13	Jan 2012	#9
I didn't know cancer was caused by 'poor health care choices'	LastLiberal in PalmSprings	Jan 2012	#10
So...in all due respect	i was a cathar	Jan 2012	#21
We swim in a sea of toxins, not of our own choice, people have unfortunate genetics, did they chose	diane in sf	Jan 2012	#30
This message was hidden by jury decision.	HangOnKids	Jan 2012	#31
You seem to have all of the answers.	PA Democrat	Jan 2012	#39
Sounds like you might be voting for Santorum.	sarcasmo	Jan 2012	#53
If there is indeed a connection between cell phones and cancer,	crim son	Jan 2012	#54
I have type 1 diabetes. There sometimes really is no reason why people get cancer or auto immune	Jennicut	Jan 2012	#58
Don't you have a Republic to Free?	whathehell	Jan 2012	#74
In case you're confused, this is a bash frothy Man on Dog	tavalon	Jan 2012	#116
In that regards, what illness would not be preventable? Going to work/school exposes you to things	The Straight Story	Jan 2012	#119
so - what exactly are the women doing to get breast cancer??	Skittles	Jan 2012	#143
It might be the aluminum in the antiperspirant	tavalon	Jan 2012	#144
It can be, but so what?	Deep13	Jan 2012	#101
Huh? I am still translating that headline...	i was a cathar	Jan 2012	#11
let's be clear ...	napkinz	Jan 2012	#14
Oh, if only someone had a custard pie...	Joe Bacon	Jan 2012	#59
Bad things happen to bad people. So, interfering with those bad things, is playing God. Says hypocri	WingDinger	Jan 2012	#16
actually, I see that some people who do very evil things	newspeak	Jan 2012	#134
"just world" fallacy	noiretextatique	Jan 2012	#149
Whoa, Christianity at its best	Iliyah	Jan 2012	#17
CHINO's	handmade34	Jan 2012	#132
The right wing wants to judge who should be helped. The ultimate solution. Just like gassing J#ws	WingDinger	Jan 2012	#19
But not his own daughter. He believes that she deserves special consideration.	yardwork	Jan 2012	#20
What about his wife's failed pregnancy, that ended with abortion?	crim son	Jan 2012	#55
Good one...He's a complete and utter Asshat, not to insult Asshats.	whathehell	Jan 2012	#75
I don't get what he's talking about	Proud Liberal Dem	Jan 2012	#66
Yes. See link below.	yardwork	Jan 2012	#96
Santorum also claims that after he lost his Senate seat he had to buy insurance for his family	PA Democrat	Jan 2012	#131
Santorum did have an employer who was a health care provider at that time. A criminal enterprise.	yardwork	Jan 2012	#148
This is why we need universal health care - so assholes like Santorum can't prey on the sick	slay	Jan 2012	#24
I swear my blood pressure spiked about a hundred points when I heard this story.	Vinca	Jan 2012	#34
I think he and Romney have tied for 'biggest asshole". Check out	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2012	#47
Dogs Against Romney	noiretextatique	Jan 2012	#150
Thanks for the link. Just liked it. - n/t	coalition_unwilling	Jan 2012	#151
welcome nt	noiretextatique	Jan 2012	#152
You know I hope moveon.org or some one does an ad with Santorum town hall meeting words	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	#40
WTF	NancyRamirez	Jan 2012	#42
Sanitory is unfeeling	Rosa Luxemburg	Jan 2012	#44
He really thinks sickness is a CONSUMER CHOICE?	Warpy	Jan 2012	#45
What an evil piece of worm ridden filth. I think old Ricky is breathing my sure.	TheKentuckian	Jan 2012	#48
Yeah, having my pancreas crap out on me is my fault. Thanks Rick.	Jennicut	Jan 2012	#51
And my husband did exactly what his doctor told him to do	catrose	Jan 2012	#114
I know. I have heard of Syndrome X.	Jennicut	Jan 2012	#154
I wonder	mainstreetonce	Jan 2012	#60
Thanks for the solid argument in favor of Single Payer, frothy.	AtheistCrusader	Jan 2012	#61
He is a fucking cretin and deserves to rot in hell where he belongs.	williesgirl	Jan 2012	#63
I was going to call him a pile of mierda......	marmar	Jan 2012	#64
Yeah, right....poor choices caused my multiple sclerosis......riiiiiiight, asshole	tpsbmam	Jan 2012	#67
heartless. i watched him say this. not a shred of compassion. fuck the sick. it's their fault.	spanone	Jan 2012	#70
Wha da fuck??!! You know my mother used to say that noone knows	Ecumenist	Jan 2012	#72
My family has all died of cancer,	eyewall	Jan 2012	#82
How can you say that we have nothing whatsoever to do with dis-ease?	sivansanabliss	Jan 2012	#130
what did his wife go	greymattermom	Jan 2012	#84
Sanitorium needs to stop supporting the rich polluters	Dont call me Shirley	Jan 2012	#85
I will admit his proclivity for sticking his foot in his mouth is great entertainment!	backscatter712	Jan 2012	#87
Do you ever get this urge?	Canuckistanian	Jan 2012	#90
I know that feeling well	Proud Liberal Dem	Jan 2012	#98
Sounds a lot like he's endorsing an actuarial death-panel.	Snarkoleptic	Jan 2012	#95
Another reminder that the pukes are pro-fetus, not pro-life.	muntrv	Jan 2012	#99
damn right	47of74	Jan 2012	#103
Santorum hates the poor, the sick, and anyone who does not fit his norm...	Deep13	Jan 2012	#102
Up yours, Santorum	47of74	Jan 2012	#104
Jeezus Keryst, Santorum!	MrScorpio	Jan 2012	#106
Jesus weeps. nt	mikekohr	Jan 2012	#127
Santorum couldn't afford insurance	ohheckyeah	Jan 2012	#108
So why doesn't someone like inSanitorium get cancer?	Zoeisright	Jan 2012	#109
And this man is considered a frontrunner for the highest office in the land?	AllyCat	Jan 2012	#111
Republicans are pure scum	workinclasszero	Jan 2012	#112
He doesn't even have to try to be an asshole	tavalon	Jan 2012	#115
Sick people should pay more?	KrazyinKS	Jan 2012	#117
That's right. We need a guy in the White House who doesn't even understand how insurance works.	Turbineguy	Jan 2012	#118
In fairness to Pennsylvania voters	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#126
What an a$$hole. They DO pay more. More doctors visits.	geckosfeet	Jan 2012	#120
gee that`s a really good way to make friends and influence people....	madrchsod	Jan 2012	#122
The Masks are really coming off.	paparush	Jan 2012	#124
The sound in the distance is	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#125
This guy..... is a real winner.	Corruption Winz	Jan 2012	#135
I'm 100% Rick Santorum on that. . .	JustAnotherGen	Jan 2012	#138
Stupid is as stupid does,,,,	benld74	Jan 2012	#139
Was parenting a child at the age of fifty a good health choice, Ricky	rocktivity	Jan 2012	#145
So Santorum "does" support the GOP Heathcare plan of Die Quickly, how interesting.	cstanleytech	Jan 2012	#146
Another right-wing fucker who wants to get off cheap.	gtar100	Jan 2012	#153

Response to sinkingfeeling (Original post)

Fri Jan 6, 2012, 04:13 PM

Trillo (7,229 posts)

1. The entire point of insurance is to spread any costs group wide.

Santorum seems to be arguing against the idea of insurance, while arguing for it.

Santorum to Mother of Cancer Survivor: Sick to Blame for Pre-Existing Conditions Should Be Charged

1. The entire point of insurance is to spread any costs group wide.

2. Risk sharing left the model a while ago. It's all about risk mitigation now....

6. He's torn between two impulses

65. nice reference to Scrooge there....

32. he deserves google. he is the very definition of it.

113. +1

141. +1! nt

140. no, the entire point of private health insurance is one thing - PROFIT, destroy it and go to

15. You love the word 'fuck,' I see.

18. If you decide to stick around, you may discover that we sometimes curse.

22. I don't got me no pearls to clutch.

25. I get that, but perhaps you might consider waiting until at least your second day at DU ...

68. In all fairness....

76. I bet you don't even got no fucking cows to come home.

123. try this

71. LOL..n/t

26. To each his own

43. Re: "I tend to keep my ...

52. Well, I don't guess I "try" to keep them to a minimum - it just kind of happens that way

69. Speaking of Santorum

78. Good point

89. That creep Santorum inspires me to curse, more than any other candidate.

93. hoping someone will meet him in NH with a "get out of my crotch" sign

100. He is vile, but Gingrich is the king of hateable. nt

105. If Gingrich is the one who gets your blood pressure and nausea rising, I can see why!

128. LOL @ free speech on DU!

136. Excuse me - would you care to elaborate?

41. And he is already gone again.

83. he posted

33. consider sadtorum told sick people to fuck off and die, the wordage was appropriate

73. Agreed. n/t

49. Niceley Said .... But ...

50. I assess the effectiveness of the word, overused or no, according to the speaker.

110. THAT is what offends you? THAT???

129. It just disgusts me is all.

27. There's sure some fucking thing about that fucking fucker that fucking makes me want to say "fuck."

137. P- RICK Santorum loves to fuck and had seven kids to prove it

80. sniff, sniff

91. I really like the word:

107. My 84 year old mother

92. Fuck yeah.

97. Hating Santorum IS classy. nt

4. WTF

5. As The Mother Of A Cancer Surviving Kid

37. God bless you both of you. Don't be down from him. he's sick in the head himself.

46. We Are Keepin On

8. Me too. What exactly did my sister do that caused her to get breast cancer, Rick?

38. your sister is good. she is innocent. Santorum on the other hand is sick in the head

88. She's a survivor, so thankfully, I *will* be able to giver her a hug.

133. this guy sure shows his ignorance

62. Why is it

94. Sorry and very good response to the creep Santorum

12. WOW

23. I wish I could rec this post and strongly suggest you consider

28. I wholeheartedly support everything you just said

35. Add my neice, now 16, who was 2 when she was diagnosed with cancer.

36. I wish you and your son the best in hope and wellness. don't let a

56. More offensive than fuck to many here

57. Rick, I COULDN'T make the choice to have rheumatoid arthritis!

77. You and your son are in my thoughts.

79. As an obviously caring parent and person,

86. I would be very surprised

121. I can only hope that your child continues to be well.

142. wow

147. his comment was both ignorant and heartless

7. I had to rec

13. gives you an idea just how incredibly stupid his followers are.

9. Jesus refused to cure the sick because they could not pay him, right? nt

10. I didn't know cancer was caused by 'poor health care choices'

21. So...in all due respect

30. We swim in a sea of toxins, not of our own choice, people have unfortunate genetics, did they chose

39. You seem to have all of the answers.

53. Sounds like you might be voting for Santorum.

54. If there is indeed a connection between cell phones and cancer,

58. I have type 1 diabetes. There sometimes really is no reason why people get cancer or auto immune

74. Don't you have a Republic to Free?

116. In case you're confused, this is a bash frothy Man on Dog

119. In that regards, what illness would not be preventable? Going to work/school exposes you to things

143. so - what exactly are the women doing to get breast cancer??

88. She's a survivor, so thankfully, I will be able to giver her a hug.