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&feature=player_embeddedRomney on why he didnt mention troops:
when you give a speech, you don't go thru a laundry list, you talk about things you think are important
http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23WTF
oh, and did i mention he is LAUGHING during this interview!!!, kpete
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)he always outdoes himself in the dumbass department.
surrealAmerican
(11,359 posts)... and he's not in Kansas either.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...a male Sarah Palin.
He really is a half-wit.
How in the hell did this guy ever succeed st anything. He's like Ron Burgandy.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)and asks him why the troops are unimportant.
Bass Turd!
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Wow. How crass is that?
kpete
(71,981 posts)Response to kpete (Reply #6)
whathehell This message was self-deleted by its author.
kpete
(71,981 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)asserts that "the military" and "the troops" are the same thing. Not at all. NOT. AT. ALL.
SaveAmerica
(5,342 posts)'again and again and again'..
TeamPooka
(24,217 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...during a boilerplate "we're all in this together" bit. He built his campaign theme around "that avenue of attack".
Ty Templeton
(26 posts)When he first brings up the military, it's about military budget. I'm delighted he thinks the military budget and "the troops" are the very same thing. THAT'S a telling slip of the tongue. Everything's a matter of budget numbers for this guy, even human lives.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)And welcome to DU!
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Personnel are debt, because unfortunately they must be paid. What a piece of work.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)oldsarge54
(582 posts)When you get right down to it, Romney's comment is precisely the description of how the middle class was lost. Workers are no longer partners in a great enterprise, they are debits on the balance sheet. This applies to the civil sector as well as the military. That sort of thinking has taken the country all the way to the latrine.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)And that money is not necessarily spent on the TROOPS themselves, but on more unnecessary military adventures and weapons systems that even the military brass does not want.
Mittens is just not into people unless they have BIG bank accounts.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Obama cares about people -- like families and soldiers.
That is the whole campaign in a nutshell.
What is America about? Institutions or people?
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)"When you give a speech, you don't go through a laundry list, you talk about the things you think are important."
Holy Shit! He really just said that, he really just said the troops were not important to talk about in his "laundry list of things"
WOW
Hey soldiers that serve this country Mitt Romney thinks you are part of a laundry list of unimportant things not worth mentioning
NICE Real NICE
Response to kpete (Original post)
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Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)He has no clue how bad this looks because this is really how he thinks.
This creep is unfit for ANY elected office, much less the presidency.
ms liberty
(8,572 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)That the Romney team is confident they can say anything stupid, or not say anything at all, or lie their asses off and because of the money they have to back them up, it doesn't matter.
scarey.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)I have come up empty everywhere else. I just can't imagine that he made this big a gaffe. This one is the type that completely sinks a candidacy and I would think I could find it somewhere else to confirm if he said it.
kpete
(71,981 posts)kpete
(71,981 posts)Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)A Horse's ass!
treestar
(82,383 posts)When they show him listening, he looks fake. Obama always looks like he's concentrating.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)savalez
(3,517 posts)Doesn't he have 5 sons that did NOT serve in the armed forces? What are the odds of that?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)they fled the US for Mexico to be true Mormons, then they fled Mexico's revolution and came back to the US as refugees supported by the government of the US, but they tend to claim that their 'missionary work' is what they do in lieu of public service of any kind.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)is most people really dislike people knocking on their door to push their religion.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...we refer to those people as the looney nut jobs who are interrupting our dinner.
And now you're telling me that one of them wants to be President? Oh for the love of...
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)kpete
(71,981 posts)i had heard it earlier, but thought I must have had a brain fart...
peace, kpete
AzDar
(14,023 posts)or something...
Response to AzDar (Reply #21)
bupkus This message was self-deleted by its author.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We already went through Bush, now Romney.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)He starts his response by laughing embarrassingly about his embarrassment.
There must be something embarrassing he definitly doesn't like and it shows.
Psychopathy, to be more accurate, but since people prefer the term sociopath and use it interchangeably, that's the word I use.
After Dubya, do we really need another stupider than stupid sociopath in the Whitehouse? Really?
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)From Rumsfeld, an ugly smear and a giant fib
By Mark Shields Creators Syndicate
snip...
First, the smear of veterans. Speaking of the 11 million Americans who, during the Vietnam years, answered their country's draft call and the 2 million who served in Vietnam, Rumsfeld alleged that these draftees "added no value, no advantage, really, to the United States armed services over any sustained period of time, because the churning that took place, it took enormous amount of effort in terms of training, and then they were gone."
I'll say "then, they were gone!" Of the 58,152 Americans who gave their lives in Vietnam 20,352 of them were draftees. How dare the secretary of defense say these good and brave Americans "added no value, no advantage, to the United States armed services?"
Why would he slander the sacrifice of these brave men, dishonor their memory and rub salt in their families' wounds?
Certainly a man as smart as Rumsfeld knows that the draft was specifically intended to trigger volunteers. Faced with the certainty of a future draft call, many young men chose to "volunteer" because then they could select which branch of the service they preferred and, if qualified, the specialized training they desired. Read More...
http://articles.cnn.com/2003-01-20/politics/column.shields.opinion.rumsfeld_1_defense-secretary-donald-rumsfeld-draft-law-volunteer?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)What an asshole.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)a) why are you smiling
b) why, moments later, are you laughing
c) could it be any more obvious that you are a raging dick with a massive anger problem?
His level of entitlement is just disgusting.
This guy should not be running for President. He's unfit to serve.
sa2968
(38 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)How do we make this video go viral?
renate
(13,776 posts)So I think he'll get away with it. Of course, he didn't THANK the troops, which is what all the fuss is about, but he might just weasel out of this.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)to a tank, a plane, or a warhead.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)fuck him
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Romney fucking blaming the President for "taking the car companies into bankruptcy." Jesus H. Christ, does that asshole even OWN a calendar??? The car crisis was handed to the President when he arrived. just fuck you Romney.
As for the next asshole thing. the interviewer? Who is that putz? the way he frames the question "are you sorry you opened up that line of attack??" And he prefaces it by saying.. 'you spoke to the VFW the day before..." But instead of being a decent journalist who asks "are you sorry you did not mention the troops?" or EVEN "why DIDN'T you mention the troops"
Then the final asshole of the double/triple assohole is Romney himself. Laughing, smirking, and saying that "he only talked about things tha were important." OH.. a "strong military" (which he referred to in defense spending NOT their sacrifices!) and thought that was enough of an homage to them?? Really? who the fuck would vote for that liar? He's smarmy and creepy.
BSUbluNorange
(78 posts)Just for accuracy purposes but it doesn't make the statement any better, that last part is going to come back to bite him!
kpete
(71,981 posts)you are right, and it is important, and i edited my post
peace, kp
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)I'm sure he's never gone to the laundry. I'm sure he doesn't go to the grocery store with a laundry list. I don't think he even knows what it is.
Carla in Sequim
(228 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Presumably he thinks our military isn't strong now. Is he claiming our soldiers aren't fighting hard enough, that they aren't tough enough? If he means they are fighting today without the right equipment, that only makes those men and women more heroic.
Mitt, America is at war and you want to be Commander in Chief. You didn't criticize how the war is being fought, you IGNORED it, and you ignored the men and women who are in harms way now when you did so. Next time try the laundry list approach, it would be less insulting to real people fighting a real war NOW. You can argue over what military hardware you want this nation to purchase LATER, in the unlikely event you manage to get elected.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)he's a nice guy is bulls...!!!!!!! this guy is evil. Not one member of his family served in the military? five son's with ALL the advantages an american could want, never, by way of service to america, not the mormon church, say thank you america? I am shaking my head in sadness for the people who will vote for this dangerous clown
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)But yes, saying "I want a strong MILITARY" is the same as saying "I support the PEOPLE who serve in it" is in line with the thinking of "Corporations are People." ie-Institutions are important, individual people are not.
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts)Had/has no personal skin in the game.
Unlike Joe Biden.
central scrutinizer
(11,642 posts)we would be all over him if he HAD shamelessly pandered to the troops during his speech because of his chicken-hawk past and the cowardice of his whole family. But the more he paints himself into a corner, the more I like it.
renate
(13,776 posts)I can understand getting a deferment on the grounds of religious beliefs (I don't know that that's how he got out of serving, I'm just assuming that it was because he had to go to France to annoy people). But if his religion forbids him from going and killing people, how on earth could he demonstrate in FAVOR of the war? That alone should have gotten his ass on a plane to Vietnam toute suite on the basis that he clearly wasn't opposed to war after all.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)It was not against protesters against the war. It was against protestors who thought that exemption because of the score you got on an aptitude test was unfair. That test was put in place because students at Stanford and other elite school were complaining that a raw percentage of deferments were given, and they did not account for the smarter student body at Stanford.
In other words he was protesting to enhance his own status as being exempt from the draft which is far worse!!! It fits in perfectly with his priviledged story ("Fortunate Son" anyone).
The protestors he was protesting were risking their own exemption status by protesting.
I wish some reporter would have the brass to ask him this question.
Also I hear he got some strings pulled to get the religious exemption.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)No problem with deferments or protesting against the war or even dodging. Hell, if more people had done, maybe that fucking war would have ended sooner. What is unconscionable is beating the war drum, then making a break for it and letting some poor schmuck die in your place. But apparently schmuck didn't make his laundry list.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Actually what Romney is also saying is that he sees foreign policy as a strong suit for Obama so there is no traction for an attack and that attacks are all Romney sees as being important. Surely a decent man could find it in his heart somehow to show some appreciation for those 80,000 troops currently fighting in Afghanistan, but not Romney.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Anyone who votes for him is, too.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)FOX news gives him a softball pitch, and he doesn't even swing. He just sticks his face in front of the ball and hopes for a walk.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)I'm amazed how much they're covering for this man. He doesn't deserve to even be considered as president and commander in chief. I swear he could punch a baby in the face and they'd ignore it.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Along with the facts that Romney went to France during Vietnam rather than serve and none of his 5 sons served. Bash him over the head with a sledgehammer.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)"You'll Never Get Me Lucky Smarms!"
Romney is taking smarminess to ever greater heights.
mshasta
(2,108 posts)wow! he just fuck it up again !
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Oh, PLEEEEEEEEZE.
I wanna smack that smirk right off his face.
kpete
(71,981 posts)Staffer Muscles Clench
I think you can be sure Mitt Romneys press handlers got a bad feeling in the pits of their stomach when Romney gave this answer.
Bret Bair asks if he regrets not mentioning the troops in his convention speech
When you give a speech you dont go through a laundry list, you talk about the things that you think are important and I described in my speech, my commitment to a strong military unlike the presidents decision to cut our military.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/staffer_muscles_clench.php?ref=fpblg
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How DARE Romney even utter the words he uttered today. He has never served in our military, neither have his sons. He has never known the sacrifice or what it means to either serve or be a parent of a child who serves, and he will never know the heart ache, the worry, the tears, the pride, the part of you that is missing while your child serves hundreds or thousands of miles away.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/07/1129026/-Really-Not-important-From-a-Military-Mom-to-Romney
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]To this goon, hierarchical institutions are equivalent to or greater than human beings.
Corporations > people.
Military > troops.
Got that everyone?
"We the People" are just "you people" -- have-not, insignificant mites in the collective. The institutions commanded by the "haves" of wealth and power are supreme, and the reTHUGs are the political arm of this juggernaut for their corporate masters.
Don't underestimate their ultimate aims for a minute.
bigtree
(85,984 posts)there's no evidence at all that he does . . . and now this.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Kiss my ass, Willard, you chickenhawk piece of garbage!
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)the most honest thing he has said in days
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I can understand Romney's confusion; he thinks corporations are people.
mwooldri
(10,302 posts)Bossy Monkey
(15,863 posts)While it's repugnant that the Armed Forces Network carries his show, it might finally pay off.
polmaven
(9,463 posts)The men and women who are putting their lives on the line every day to protect the people of the country they love are no more than a laundry list of unimportant "issues".......AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
stlsaxman
(9,236 posts)"Everywhere I go in America, there are monuments that list those who have given their lives for America. There is no mention of their race, their party affiliation, or what they did for a living. They lived and died under a single flag, fighting for a single purpose. They pledged allegiance to the UNITED States of America.
That America, that united America, can unleash an economy that will put Americans back to work, that will once again lead the world with innovation and productivity, and that will restore every father and mother's confidence that their children's future is brighter even than the past.
That America, that united America, will preserve a military that is so strong, no nation would ever dare to test it."
That's it, folks. In other words: the military is there to serve the advancement of the economy. Looking at those words again, he doesn't even mention "freedom" or "democracy" as something our military fights for.
He disgusts me.
Plaid Adder
(5,518 posts)That's his excuse.
OK. That is how you KNOW he thinks corporations are people. The "military" that he wants to give untold trillions of dollars to is a vast bureaucratic-industrial complex. The "troops" are the actual human beings who do the extremely dangerous work that this complex creates.
Mitt can't tell the difference. That's perfect.
The Plaid Adder
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)he does`t give a flying fuck about the troops because they do`t serve his purpose
This video is so so so hard to watch, I can't imagine how our military feels about being part of a laundry list. I feel like I have to say thank you at this very moment to our military.
Thank You
sarge43
(28,941 posts)That anyone would say service men and women belong on a laundry list is beyond comprehension. Whatever else we are, we are not things to be hand waved away, no human being is.
So on behalf of all those killed in places you never heard of and the many more who had their bodies, minds and lives destroyed by steel, fire and all manner of other shit, fuck you Romney and the garbage scow you barged in on.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)he just said that the troops are not important so that's why he did not speak about them in length. Then he says his mentioning the military a few times fixes that. The guy has no common sense at all plus he has that upper management attitude. The institutions matter while the "little people" don't.
zebrastripe
(26 posts)Willard, think before you speak, better yet just don't speak.
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)in the debates....
Troops unimportant. Good luck with that.
Gin
(7,212 posts)Packed into an aviation museum is loaded with veterans......the new focus will be to mention veterans...troops...sacrifice....
Its sickening but the pandering is in full force right now...
gulliver
(13,180 posts)He's running out of new ways to do the little salesman chuckle-and-move-on maneuver. He shouldn't overuse that now like he is. He will need it in the debates.
VPStoltz
(1,295 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)And Mittens done did 'em both!
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)So the troops in harms way are on his laundry list but not important enough to include in his speech. Ouch. Maybe if he or one of his five sons had served in the military his outlook would be more forgiving and appreciative of the sacrifice they are making for their country. This is not a Commander in Chief level comment. Not even close.
flyguyjake
(492 posts)JACKASS
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Shit certainly does float, doesn't it?
sarge43
(28,941 posts)PONTING12
(14 posts)Confusious
(8,317 posts)I don't think you'll be here long.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)I think he will give us several more before election day.