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montanacowboy

(6,085 posts)
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:48 PM Sep 2012

Three People Who Need to be Fired from MSNBC

1. Andrea Greenspan (RW Hag)

2. David Gregory (Dances with Rove)

3. Chuck Todd (Overall asshole)

I am so sick and tired of these three shills constantly looking for negative feedback from everyone to prop up their RW talking points. Why the hell does MSNBC keep them on? with people like Rachel and big Eddie and Lawrence bringing in the #1 spot for DNC Coverage, why do we need these other people - they belong on Fox Snooze or worse - friggin fired on their asses. And Sandra Fluke sure snapped old Gregory back into place during that interview yesterday.

And where are they hiding little pricky Luke? haven't seen his scrawny little entitled ass anywhere in the convention - not complaining though. Any day without him is a good day.

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Three People Who Need to be Fired from MSNBC (Original Post) montanacowboy Sep 2012 OP
Add Al Sharpton. I love him but it is painful to watch him sometimes. Pisces Sep 2012 #1
Then don't watch Al. Just listen! Viva_Daddy Sep 2012 #5
Whats wrong with Al bigdarryl Sep 2012 #6
I agree mamayo Sep 2012 #7
me2 cash__whatiwant Sep 2012 #27
Same here. I like him much better on panels hifiguy Sep 2012 #31
?, Sharptons a hack? tia uponit7771 Sep 2012 #9
Al Sharpton gives us a flavor and honesty that others can't. He is old school. Take him off the list The Wielding Truth Sep 2012 #14
Al is a gem there. Whisp Sep 2012 #19
He has trouble reading the teleprompter, but... JaneQPublic Sep 2012 #20
His 'questions' tend to xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #21
I love Al Sharpton aint_no_life_nowhere Sep 2012 #44
You cannot be serious n/t malaise Sep 2012 #48
What's your issue with Rev. AL ? RagAss Sep 2012 #56
I love Al, I just can not take an hour of his struggling to say what he wants. He has many great Pisces Sep 2012 #60
Andrea--hack and whore, Gregory, hack and whore, Chuck Toad, incompetent idiot librechik Sep 2012 #2
I second that. I understand how hacks and whores get those jobs. BlueStreak Sep 2012 #39
I think they just felt sorry for Chuck. He is so earnest. And so dumb. librechik Sep 2012 #41
Three putrid skidmarks. RagAss Sep 2012 #57
Totally agree! Can we also add Joe Scarborough to the list? nt avebury Sep 2012 #3
Plus S.E. Cupp sadbear Sep 2012 #4
She really is a disgusting partisan. Don't know what MSNBC was thinking with that pick. OregonBlue Sep 2012 #15
Her snotty tweets last night on the crawl hifiguy Sep 2012 #32
first on the list grantcart Sep 2012 #59
Nepotism boy baby Russert needs to work his way up to make room for real talent. gordianot Sep 2012 #8
he needs more schooling. i winced when he called the mariana islands the marinara islands. eom ellenfl Sep 2012 #18
Hahaha!!! I posted about that! Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #22
What? You're kidding. xxqqqzme Sep 2012 #24
He just had visions of a trip to TGI Friday's after work that night, and diving bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #26
And Obama made a reference to 50 something states Inuca Sep 2012 #46
HEAR HEAR!!! I find that just galling! calimary Sep 2012 #53
4. Joe Scar NRaleighLiberal Sep 2012 #10
Add Sip E Cup and that Scab idiot HappyMe Sep 2012 #11
I'm sick of all of them, so I turn off the TV when they're on. I don't suspect MSNBC much K Gardner Sep 2012 #12
Yes, yes and yes! graywarrior Sep 2012 #13
all of the above JitterbugPerfume Sep 2012 #16
Sorry, but this is ridiculous Inuca Sep 2012 #17
thank you nt cash__whatiwant Sep 2012 #28
+1 Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #29
Reporter/journalists are not supposed to be partisan, Cleita Sep 2012 #34
I don't think either of these three qualify as partisan Inuca Sep 2012 #40
Mitchell is well known for being imbedded with the RWing Cleita Sep 2012 #43
Let's agree to disagree Inuca Sep 2012 #45
Whatever! Cleita Sep 2012 #47
Exactly. And Steve Schmidt. BlueStreak Sep 2012 #42
Andrea should go simply because of the ham handed manner in which she works right wing JoePhilly Sep 2012 #36
You said it 100% right. Geesh, be glad there are newsreaders with slightly different views - if one sad sally Sep 2012 #51
Chuck Todd is a decent professional? Are you serious? sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #55
Chris Mathews fun n serious Sep 2012 #23
On the plus side TuxedoKat Sep 2012 #25
IMO Mr Dixon Sep 2012 #30
They really shouldn't. Both sides need to be aired. Cleita Sep 2012 #38
Essie Cupps and Joey Scabs. And Willie Gheist too. Get rid of them. Now, lol. Erose999 Sep 2012 #33
The best way to get rid of them is not to watch them. Cleita Sep 2012 #35
Agree on Sipy Cup and Joe Scab ... he embarasses Joes everywhere. JoePhilly Sep 2012 #37
That smug little snot-nose has NO business hosting a show on MSNBC. calimary Sep 2012 #54
I think she is very pretty. But idiotic. Jennicut Sep 2012 #58
MSNBC is mainstream media propaganda, here's the definition of propaganda just1voice Sep 2012 #49
Well he doesn't have a show standingtall Sep 2012 #50
Didn't David Gregory Shankapotomus Sep 2012 #52
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
31. Same here. I like him much better on panels
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012

than when he's flying solo. His substance is just fine, I just find his speaking style difficult to take in large doses.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
19. Al is a gem there.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:04 PM
Sep 2012

He has a perspective that none of those others have and I really appreciate hearing it!

Hands off Al!

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
20. He has trouble reading the teleprompter, but...
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:05 PM
Sep 2012

...he does great on the election night panels when speaking off the cuff.

Keep in mind all the other MSNBC hosts got in a year or two of practice by filling in for other hosts. Al didn't get that opportunity.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
21. His 'questions' tend to
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:07 PM
Sep 2012

be lengthy expositions first with a 'What do you think'? thrown in at the end. At times exasperating. But I like his program and his guests are great! Wish he was included in the rerun on the left coast. Three in the afternoon is an awkward time.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
44. I love Al Sharpton
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sep 2012

It took me awhile to get used to him but now I wouldn't miss him. I think he's one of the most insightful people on.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
60. I love Al, I just can not take an hour of his struggling to say what he wants. He has many great
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 10:01 PM
Sep 2012

points, don't know if it is his age, but sometimes he stumbles too much.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
2. Andrea--hack and whore, Gregory, hack and whore, Chuck Toad, incompetent idiot
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 01:49 PM
Sep 2012

they should be gone. But they are "grandfathered" into the system.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
39. I second that. I understand how hacks and whores get those jobs.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:46 PM
Sep 2012

But I don't understand how Todd ever got a look. He seems to bring nothing to the table, other than the ability to repeat the Beltway group-think. But they can get a tape recorder to do that. They guy has no insights, ever.

And when he feels like he needs to be asking more aggressive questions, he just becomes annoying. He doesn't ask penetrating questions.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
41. I think they just felt sorry for Chuck. He is so earnest. And so dumb.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:49 PM
Sep 2012

Li'l Russert wasn't ready for the job yet, and Chuck was already in place, so they gave him the opportunity. He has been an obedient little lap dog, so they don't have an excuse to boot him yet.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. Her snotty tweets last night on the crawl
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:38 PM
Sep 2012

made me want to throw something solid at the teevee machine, but then I would have missed Bill's barnburner.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
26. He just had visions of a trip to TGI Friday's after work that night, and diving
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:14 PM
Sep 2012

into a big plate of mozzarella sticks!

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
46. And Obama made a reference to 50 something states
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:58 PM
Sep 2012

some years back, and the rightwingers are still making fun of it. So what? Everybody's tongue slips every now and then. It does not mean a thing. This being said, I agree that Luke Russert's presence is pure nepotism, something I prfoundly dislike. Nepotism related to a dead colleague though, and by all accounts Tim Russert was much liked. Luke is not good, he is not bad, he is atill learning. I don't mind him.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
53. HEAR HEAR!!! I find that just galling!
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:27 PM
Sep 2012

When I think of all the people I know, and knew, in broadcasting, who busted their ass - from the lowly editing bay in the back of the newsroom, and put in the time, and slogged to City Hall, and sat through mind-numbing press conferences and local Board of Trade hearings, and made their bones and built their resumes the hard way, and working their way up from small markets to major markets (if they're lucky) and he just strolls in on the NBC News Sympathy Carpet after his dad dies and lands a plum role covering Capitol Hill?

EXCUSE ME??????????

That just makes me furious! I wonder what kind of partisan republi-CON buttons he has hidden inside his jacket like his dad did with his pro-bush/cheney button hidden from view except when he flashed it at the "right" cocktail parties.

Lucky Sperm Club. That's all he's got. Has he even learned how to shave yet? I wonder the same thing about willie geist. From what junior high school did they find him?

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
17. Sorry, but this is ridiculous
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

Last edited Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Purity tests? Unless MSNBC is not EXACTLY the left counterpart of Fox, you won't be happy? The three you mentioned may not be Rachel or O'Donnell or Chris Hayes (my personal favorites), but they are all decent professionals, not perfect, but to say that they should be fired because they are not liberal enough is in my book shameful. I don't watch them much, not my viewing hours, though I resonably often watch MTP (Gregory makes me miss Tim Russert, not in the same class by far, but not worse than the other people in the SUnday morning shows), I listen quite often to Chuck Todd on my way to work, he is not right nor left, and he is pretty good with analyzing numbers, polls and such. The last show I don't watch unless I am sick at home, but when seeing her at other hours, again she is a decent professional, better than many, the fact that she is married to Greenspan is nobody's business but hers, annd to call her a hag is ugly.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. Reporter/journalists are not supposed to be partisan,
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:40 PM
Sep 2012

but Mitchell, Todd and Gregory are. Maddow, O'Donnell and Hayes do editorials and opinion. They are allowed bias as is Michael Steele, Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough. That's the difference.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
40. I don't think either of these three qualify as partisan
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:48 PM
Sep 2012

Partisanship is very much in the eye of the beholder and there is no precise "metric" to measure it. Doyou wan tot bet ($10,000 maybe ?) that many on the right also consider them partisan and are sure that they have a left bias?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
43. Mitchell is well known for being imbedded with the RWing
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:54 PM
Sep 2012

insiders in Washington. She stopped being objective decades ago. Chuck Todd has admitted being partial to the Republicans and his "reporting" shows it.

The new HBO show the "Newsroom" pretty clearly shows this. The anchor of the show is a Republican but people think he's a Democrat because he doesn't show his bias. It's because he's a journalist first. And before you go on about it being a fictional TV show, the writers are shining a light on what goes on in the real world.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
45. Let's agree to disagree
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:52 PM
Sep 2012

"is well known for" sounds, no offense, like the kind of Fox News "people say" that on Stewart is often making fun of. It is not well known to me, and I am reasonably well informed (though of course there a gazillion things I do not know, and IMHO this applies to almost everybody). As I said, in what I personally heard of both Todd and Mitchell, I did not see a consistent bias, not did I find them offensive in any way. I sometimes disagree with what they say or do not like the approach... so what? It does not make me right nor them wrong, it's just a difference of opinion.

As to the HBO show, I heard it's both good and interesting, but I do not have HBO so I cannot comment in any way.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
47. Whatever!
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 03:58 PM
Sep 2012

"You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts," said the wise man.

We will have to leave it there because your bias is showing.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
42. Exactly. And Steve Schmidt.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:49 PM
Sep 2012

I think Schmidt and Steele add an important dimension to the conversation, and they are expected to have a point of view.

Reporters should be pursuing facts and truth, and exploring the things people are trying to hide. And they should seek the truth regardless of whom they are interviewing.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
36. Andrea should go simply because of the ham handed manner in which she works right wing
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:42 PM
Sep 2012

talking points into her questions. The fact that she does it regularly is one thing, the fact that she is actually rather inept at it is what should get her tossed.

sad sally

(2,627 posts)
51. You said it 100% right. Geesh, be glad there are newsreaders with slightly different views - if one
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:26 PM
Sep 2012

of them makes the viewer so uncomfortable, don't watch/listen.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
55. Chuck Todd is a decent professional? Are you serious?
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:37 PM
Sep 2012

As for Andrea Greenspan she has trouble putting sentences together and is painful to watch.

We need 'Journalists', like they have in other countries, who are non-partisan, left or right, who simply tell the people the facts.

But that would mean we had a free press, which we do not. That anyone thinks these amateurs are examples of professional journalism shows how low our expectations have become.

And no wonder we are listed on the World's Free Press table at around #47 or lower.

We don't even have a real journalist to compare these media personalities posing as journalists to anymore.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
25. On the plus side
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:11 PM
Sep 2012

haven't seen hide nor hair of Luke Russert. Don't miss his input at all. Oops, just reread your OP, missed the last sentences about LR.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
30. IMO
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:28 PM
Sep 2012
Because all the media is brought and paid for by elite they control the Msg and dictate which stories that get reported. MSNBC will never lean completely Left, try watching Current TV their are Better IMO

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
38. They really shouldn't. Both sides need to be aired.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:44 PM
Sep 2012

The BIG problem in today's media world is yellow journalism. When you let pundit after pundit take the microphone and lie with impunity andwith no facts and when no journalist challenges them, then that's a problem.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
54. That smug little snot-nose has NO business hosting a show on MSNBC.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012

What's the matter - not bimbo enough for Pox Noise? I notice her lips are pretty thin and her hair isn't Barbie blonde. Guess that must be why...

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
58. I think she is very pretty. But idiotic.
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:45 PM
Sep 2012

At least that show has Krsytal Ball, who I like a lot. Toure and Steve Kornacki are fine too. I guess she is the token Repub on the show. Someone on to do false equivalency crap.

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
49. MSNBC is mainstream media propaganda, here's the definition of propaganda
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:12 PM
Sep 2012

Just replace the word "propaganda" with "MSNBC":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda

---Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.

As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.---

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
50. Well he doesn't have a show
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012

but Ron Christie is awful. A former Bush/Cheney admin attorney who brings nothing to the table, and never ever makes an attempt to be objective. He should never be on anybodies show on that network. S.E. Cupp, and Andrea Mitchell should both just go work for fox.
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