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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThree People Who Need to be Fired from MSNBC
1. Andrea Greenspan (RW Hag)
2. David Gregory (Dances with Rove)
3. Chuck Todd (Overall asshole)
I am so sick and tired of these three shills constantly looking for negative feedback from everyone to prop up their RW talking points. Why the hell does MSNBC keep them on? with people like Rachel and big Eddie and Lawrence bringing in the #1 spot for DNC Coverage, why do we need these other people - they belong on Fox Snooze or worse - friggin fired on their asses. And Sandra Fluke sure snapped old Gregory back into place during that interview yesterday.
And where are they hiding little pricky Luke? haven't seen his scrawny little entitled ass anywhere in the convention - not complaining though. Any day without him is a good day.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)Viva_Daddy
(785 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Sharpton's voice just grates on my nerves
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)than when he's flying solo. His substance is just fine, I just find his speaking style difficult to take in large doses.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)He has a perspective that none of those others have and I really appreciate hearing it!
Hands off Al!
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...he does great on the election night panels when speaking off the cuff.
Keep in mind all the other MSNBC hosts got in a year or two of practice by filling in for other hosts. Al didn't get that opportunity.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)be lengthy expositions first with a 'What do you think'? thrown in at the end. At times exasperating. But I like his program and his guests are great! Wish he was included in the rerun on the left coast. Three in the afternoon is an awkward time.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)It took me awhile to get used to him but now I wouldn't miss him. I think he's one of the most insightful people on.
malaise
(268,961 posts)RagAss
(13,832 posts)Pisces
(5,599 posts)points, don't know if it is his age, but sometimes he stumbles too much.
librechik
(30,674 posts)they should be gone. But they are "grandfathered" into the system.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)But I don't understand how Todd ever got a look. He seems to bring nothing to the table, other than the ability to repeat the Beltway group-think. But they can get a tape recorder to do that. They guy has no insights, ever.
And when he feels like he needs to be asking more aggressive questions, he just becomes annoying. He doesn't ask penetrating questions.
librechik
(30,674 posts)Li'l Russert wasn't ready for the job yet, and Chuck was already in place, so they gave him the opportunity. He has been an obedient little lap dog, so they don't have an excuse to boot him yet.
RagAss
(13,832 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)sadbear
(4,340 posts)I suspect ratings will be her eventual downfall, though. She WILL get fired.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)made me want to throw something solid at the teevee machine, but then I would have missed Bill's barnburner.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)gordianot
(15,237 posts)ellenfl
(8,660 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,792 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)That is awful. Bet he doesn't even know where they are.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)into a big plate of mozzarella sticks!
Inuca
(8,945 posts)some years back, and the rightwingers are still making fun of it. So what? Everybody's tongue slips every now and then. It does not mean a thing. This being said, I agree that Luke Russert's presence is pure nepotism, something I prfoundly dislike. Nepotism related to a dead colleague though, and by all accounts Tim Russert was much liked. Luke is not good, he is not bad, he is atill learning. I don't mind him.
calimary
(81,220 posts)When I think of all the people I know, and knew, in broadcasting, who busted their ass - from the lowly editing bay in the back of the newsroom, and put in the time, and slogged to City Hall, and sat through mind-numbing press conferences and local Board of Trade hearings, and made their bones and built their resumes the hard way, and working their way up from small markets to major markets (if they're lucky) and he just strolls in on the NBC News Sympathy Carpet after his dad dies and lands a plum role covering Capitol Hill?
EXCUSE ME??????????
That just makes me furious! I wonder what kind of partisan republi-CON buttons he has hidden inside his jacket like his dad did with his pro-bush/cheney button hidden from view except when he flashed it at the "right" cocktail parties.
Lucky Sperm Club. That's all he's got. Has he even learned how to shave yet? I wonder the same thing about willie geist. From what junior high school did they find him?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)to the list.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)cares, tho.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)JitterbugPerfume
(18,183 posts)with the possible exception of Rev Al!
Inuca
(8,945 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 6, 2012, 02:45 PM - Edit history (1)
Purity tests? Unless MSNBC is not EXACTLY the left counterpart of Fox, you won't be happy? The three you mentioned may not be Rachel or O'Donnell or Chris Hayes (my personal favorites), but they are all decent professionals, not perfect, but to say that they should be fired because they are not liberal enough is in my book shameful. I don't watch them much, not my viewing hours, though I resonably often watch MTP (Gregory makes me miss Tim Russert, not in the same class by far, but not worse than the other people in the SUnday morning shows), I listen quite often to Chuck Todd on my way to work, he is not right nor left, and he is pretty good with analyzing numbers, polls and such. The last show I don't watch unless I am sick at home, but when seeing her at other hours, again she is a decent professional, better than many, the fact that she is married to Greenspan is nobody's business but hers, annd to call her a hag is ugly.
cash__whatiwant
(396 posts)But it's fun to gripe.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)but Mitchell, Todd and Gregory are. Maddow, O'Donnell and Hayes do editorials and opinion. They are allowed bias as is Michael Steele, Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough. That's the difference.
Inuca
(8,945 posts)Partisanship is very much in the eye of the beholder and there is no precise "metric" to measure it. Doyou wan tot bet ($10,000 maybe ?) that many on the right also consider them partisan and are sure that they have a left bias?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)insiders in Washington. She stopped being objective decades ago. Chuck Todd has admitted being partial to the Republicans and his "reporting" shows it.
The new HBO show the "Newsroom" pretty clearly shows this. The anchor of the show is a Republican but people think he's a Democrat because he doesn't show his bias. It's because he's a journalist first. And before you go on about it being a fictional TV show, the writers are shining a light on what goes on in the real world.
Inuca
(8,945 posts)"is well known for" sounds, no offense, like the kind of Fox News "people say" that on Stewart is often making fun of. It is not well known to me, and I am reasonably well informed (though of course there a gazillion things I do not know, and IMHO this applies to almost everybody). As I said, in what I personally heard of both Todd and Mitchell, I did not see a consistent bias, not did I find them offensive in any way. I sometimes disagree with what they say or do not like the approach... so what? It does not make me right nor them wrong, it's just a difference of opinion.
As to the HBO show, I heard it's both good and interesting, but I do not have HBO so I cannot comment in any way.
"You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts," said the wise man.
We will have to leave it there because your bias is showing.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)I think Schmidt and Steele add an important dimension to the conversation, and they are expected to have a point of view.
Reporters should be pursuing facts and truth, and exploring the things people are trying to hide. And they should seek the truth regardless of whom they are interviewing.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)talking points into her questions. The fact that she does it regularly is one thing, the fact that she is actually rather inept at it is what should get her tossed.
sad sally
(2,627 posts)of them makes the viewer so uncomfortable, don't watch/listen.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)As for Andrea Greenspan she has trouble putting sentences together and is painful to watch.
We need 'Journalists', like they have in other countries, who are non-partisan, left or right, who simply tell the people the facts.
But that would mean we had a free press, which we do not. That anyone thinks these amateurs are examples of professional journalism shows how low our expectations have become.
And no wonder we are listed on the World's Free Press table at around #47 or lower.
We don't even have a real journalist to compare these media personalities posing as journalists to anymore.
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)Is a very smart man. I am always impressed by him.
TuxedoKat
(3,818 posts)haven't seen hide nor hair of Luke Russert. Don't miss his input at all. Oops, just reread your OP, missed the last sentences about LR.
Mr Dixon
(1,185 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)The BIG problem in today's media world is yellow journalism. When you let pundit after pundit take the microphone and lie with impunity andwith no facts and when no journalist challenges them, then that's a problem.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)Ratings will do the job.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)What's the matter - not bimbo enough for Pox Noise? I notice her lips are pretty thin and her hair isn't Barbie blonde. Guess that must be why...
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)At least that show has Krsytal Ball, who I like a lot. Toure and Steve Kornacki are fine too. I guess she is the token Repub on the show. Someone on to do false equivalency crap.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)Just replace the word "propaganda" with "MSNBC":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
---Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed at influencing the attitude of a community toward some cause or position. Propaganda is usually repeated and dispersed over a wide variety of media in order to create the chosen result in audience attitudes.
As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda, in its most basic sense, presents information primarily to influence an audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus possibly lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or uses loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the attitude toward the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda. Propaganda can be used as a form of political warfare.---
standingtall
(2,785 posts)but Ron Christie is awful. A former Bush/Cheney admin attorney who brings nothing to the table, and never ever makes an attempt to be objective. He should never be on anybodies show on that network. S.E. Cupp, and Andrea Mitchell should both just go work for fox.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)hold bozo to task on his military service records?