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why do republicans hate Obama so much?

Since President Obama took the oath of office in January 2009, Republicans have reversed their stances on many different policies and beliefs. Here are 24 of them.

1. Health Care Mandates) Prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act by Democrats, Republicans widely supported the idea of an individual health care insurance mandate, Newt Gingrich being perhaps the chief supporter. Republicans have always preached about how people need to take responsibility for themselves, and now that a law exists that makes people take responsibility, the GOP is rejecting it simply on the grounds that President Obama and the Democrats passed it.

2. The Nuclear START Treaty) Republicans shamelessly filibustered the ratification of the Obama START Treaty for quite a period of time and criticized it tremendously and continue to try and find ways to circumvent the treaty today. What Republicans conveniently forget is that Ronald Reagan, the man that Republicans worship like a God, negotiated the very first START Treaty which was signed by yet another Republican, George H. W. Bush in 1991. That treaty expired in 2009 so President Obama negotiated a new one to continue the Reagan legacy. But since President Obama negotiated this treaty, Republicans retreated from Reagan’s policy faster than the decade it took to create the START Treaty in the first place.




3. Dream Act) Immigration reform has been touted by Republicans for decades now. Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants in the 1980′s. Most recently, Republicans worked on immigration reform under the Bush Administration and failed. President Bush and Senator John McCain both supported immigration reform and were willing to cross the aisle to work with Democrats, most notably Edward Kennedy. All of that work and bipartisanship ceased after the 2008 Election. Staunchly opposed to President Obama and anything his administration supports, Republicans turned their backs on immigration reform in favor of militarizing the border and laws that violate the civil rights of Hispanics. Obama’s Dream Act would do much that Reagan would approve of, but Republicans refuse hear anything of it.

4. TARP) Republicans supported TARP when they helped pass it in response to the economic collapse in 2008. President Bush even signed the legislation into law. But since it’s been up to the guiding hands of President Obama to deal with TARP, Republicans have since revoked their support and have been highly critical even as they take credit for it when presenting stimulus checks to their local constituents. The fact is, TARP is successful because President Obama oversaw it and Republicans hate that fact.

5. Bail Out of Auto Industry) Republicans once supported this too but abandoned it once President Obama called for it. The auto industry is a vital manufacturing sector that supports millions of American jobs and Republicans WANTED the industry to fail simply because President Obama wanted the bail out. If it had failed, Republicans would have blamed President Obama for not supporting the American auto industry. The bail out has been a resounding success with most of the money plus interest paid back to the taxpayers. Mitt Romney has since tried to take credit for the idea because it has been so successful.

6. Israel Going Back To Pre-1967 Borders) Many Presidents have suggested this, even George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. But once President Obama repeated it, Republicans immediately denounced the President and threw their support to Israel’s President. This action by Republicans is totally unprecedented. It is reprehensible for American politicians to support a foreign leader more than the American President. Imagine if the Republican Party had overtly supported Hitler over FDR during World War Two. The only reason Republicans are rejecting President Obama’s plan is because they cannot bring themselves to endorse any idea he suggests, even if it is a Republican one.

7. Gun Control) Republicans overwhelmingly reject any and all gun control measures today. Which is very strange considering Ronald Reagan himself supported the Brady Handgun Act. But, it’s still true. Republicans did indeed support gun control measures in the past. It’s different now. Today’s intolerant, prejudiced, and extremist Republican Party is only against gun control now because they believe there needs to be a war against liberals and minority groups. It’s all about fear and war.

8. Public Education) Even the Founding Fathers believed in education for all. Every Republican President in United States history has been supportive of the public education system in this country. Ronald Reagan campaigned on axing the Department of Education but not only did he NOT eliminate it, he amped up its budget. It is only now that President Obama seeks to improve the education system that Republicans are against public education. When President Bush sought to improve public education, Republicans were on board but now that Obama is President, Republicans have decided that all public schools are evil liberal institutions that must be destroyed.

9. Infrastructure Spending) Republicans have always believed in strong infrastructure, until now. Republicans used the power of the federal government to build the railroads in the 1860′s and 1870′s, the Panama Canal in the beginning of the 20th century, and the interstate highway system in the 1950′s. Yet when President Obama called for new infrastructure spending to improve America’s crumbling roads and bridges and to improve our rail lines, Republicans immediately reversed their long-held belief in a strong American infrastructure. Why? Because they hate President Obama and oppose everything he believes in, even if it was once a part of the Republican platform.

10. Child Labor Laws) This one is surprising. Republicans were the ones that championed child labor laws in the first place. Starting in 1852, in the once Republican state of Massachusetts, child labor laws have been fought for by both parties. The only opponent of child labor laws has traditionally been big business. Republicans tried to pass a Constitutional amendment in 1924 and it didn’t succeed. It wasn’t until Democrats passed the Fair Labor Standards Act that child labor laws became federal law. Republicans oppose child labor laws now because of their deep ties with corporations. The goal of the corporate world is to find cheap labor and because President Obama is against huge corporations, Republicans must stand with the corporations, even if that means killing child labor laws.

11. Civil Rights) Republicans were once the champions of civil rights as well. They ended slavery and adopted the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. They splintered over the Civil Rights Act in 1964, although it was a Republican led Supreme Court that ruled in the Brown v Board of Education case, and have become more and more opposed to civil rights ever since. President Obama has called for increased civil rights and because of that, Republicans now oppose civil rights for everyone except Christian white males.

12. Environmental Protection) Originally championed by Theodore Roosevelt, Republicans used to support efforts to protect the environment. Over the last century, however, that support has reversed. Republicans even once supported the environment in the 1970′s when Nixon created the EPA, but no longer. Republicans are now in complete support of the irresponsibility of the oil and coal industry and want to open the entire American coastline and even federally protected lands to drilling and mining.
Republicans even used to support cap-and-trade. The first George Bush signed legislation in 1990 that implemented the cap-and-trade system and many Republicans still do support cap-and-trade. But because President Obama supports it, most Republicans are now against it.

13. Deficit Spending) This one is big. Republicans have employed deficit spending since the Reagan years and abused it during the Bush administration to pass the conservative agenda and to fund wars. Reagan doubled the national debt and George W. Bush proceeded to double it again. But because Democrats controlled the White House and the Congress from 2008 to 2010, Republicans completely reversed their stance on deficit spending and still oppose deficit spending solely on the grounds that a Republican isn’t President. If a Republican were President right now, you can bet the farm that they would abuse deficit spending once again to slam the destructive anti-middle class, anti-poor, anti-women, and anti-America agenda through Congress with no thought about fiscal responsibility whatsoever.

14. Federal Reserve) The Federal Reserve is now a target for most Republicans, which is puzzling because it was a Republican idea. Proposed by Republican leader Nelson Aldrich to organize and regulate the banking system and to enforce monetary policy, and thus stabilize our financial system, the Federal Reserve Act was signed into law by Democratic President Woodrow Wilson in 1913. Republicans now want to dismantle or weaken the Federal Reserve because President Obama needs it to enforce Dodd-Frank which will make banks more responsible and accountable, and will protect consumers.

15. Women’s Rights) The women’s rights movement was born in and grew with the Republican Party in the mid 1800′s. Many Republicans supported voting rights for women although to pass the 19th Amendment it took women threatening to cause Republican losses in the 1920 Election to persuade them to help pass it in Congress. As women gained more equality, they also demanded equal pay for equal work and reproductive rights. Ronald Reagan legalized abortion as Governor of California in the 1960′s and a moderate conservative Supreme Court handed down the Roe v Wade decision in 1973. Today’s Republican Party is now waging a war against women and the harder Democrats and President Obama fight for women’s rights, the harder Republicans will fight to eliminate them because of orders from white Christian extremists.

16. End Of Life Counseling) Republicans referred to this as “death panels” in 2009 in response to President Obama’s Affordable Care Act. But Republicans wholeheartedly supported end of life counseling in their own 2003 Medicare bill. Both of the Bush Presidents supported end of life counseling and even Sarah Palin herself supported it before she suddenly turned against it. In fact, Republicans had supported end of life counseling for decades. So what happened? Easy. President Obama supports it, so Republicans are now against it. It’s really that simple. And petty.

17. Financial Disclosure) Republicans were all for this in 2002 when they passed and President Bush signed McCain-Feingold into law. Campaign financing laws have always been supported by Republicans and Democrats alike, until now. Because of their hatred of President Obama, who supports campaign finance laws, and their desperation for absolute power and authority, Republicans are now completely against financial disclosure. They have allied themselves with the corporate world over the American people in their effort to steer elections their direction and do that, campaign finance laws must not exist. That is why the activist conservative Supreme Court struck down the laws to begin with.

18. Minimum Wage) The way Republicans have been talking about abolishing the minimum wage, you would think they’ve always been against it, right? Wrong. 82 House Republicans and 39 Senate Republicans joined the Democratic majority in passing the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007. President Bush signed the bill into law. It is only now that President Obama stands with the American workers that Republicans oppose the minimum wage on behalf of their corporate masters, most notably, Koch Industries. If Republicans were so against the minimum wage, they would not have voted to raise it. Three times.

19. Military Intervention In The Middle East) This should really convince you that Republicans are simply opposing policies because a black President supports them. Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 all supported military intervention in the Middle East yet when President Obama uses the military to intervene in Libya, Republicans all of a sudden become doves? They’ve really revealed themselves with this policy reversal. The fact that under President Obama, Libya successfully overthrew their dictator without one American life being lost must infuriate the GOP.

20. Abortion) It may sound really far-fetched but there are many pro-choice conservatives out there and some politicians are part of that group. Take Ronald Reagan for instance. He made abortion legal in California as Governor of the state. And most recently, it was discovered that extreme right-winger Rick Santorum’s wife had an abortion to save her own life. In my opinion, that means Santorum is for the procedure when his wife’s life is on the line, but every other woman needs to die rather than exercise their right to an abortion which was ruled to exist in Roe v Wade by a conservative leaning court in 1973.

21. Economic Development Administration) Never heard of this you say? This program provides grants to local projects which have created jobs. Republicans such as Susan Collins, Chuck Grassely, and even John Cornyn have supported it in the past. Cornyn stated in March 2010 that funds from an EDA grant “would pave the way for the creation of new jobs and business opportunities, which will strengthen the region’s economy,” according to a local East Texas NBC news affiliate. But now that the GOP plan to crash the economy on purpose is in full swing, Republicans are now calling for an end to the EDA.

22. Lower Taxes) Republican do support lower taxes, except they only support them for the wealthy, NOT the rest of us. Even as they crusade to eliminate taxes on corporations and the wealthy, Republicans fully support a new proposal that would actually raise taxes on the rest of us. And guess who opposes it? That’s right. President Obama. Republicans usually crusaded for lower taxes for everyone, but since they support class warfare now, they have partly reversed themselves.

23. Medicare) I’m aware that Republicans initially opposed Medicare when it was passed, but since its passage into law, Republicans have largely defended it, especially when they try to pander to senior citizens for votes. But if Republicans really wanted to kill Medicare, they would have actually done it when Ronald Reagan was in office. Reagan opposed Medicare when it was created but then did something quite unexpected as President. He saved it. By saving Medicare, Republicans practically endorsed it. Even Theodore Roosevelt supported national health care. And now the GOP has come full circle once again by opposing it, and are trying to slaughter it and the millions of seniors that rely on the popular health care program. Why? Because President Obama is in favor of keeping Medicare around for a very long time and Medicare represents just how popular government-run universal health care can be. So technically speaking, Republicans were against Medicare before they were for it before they were against it.

24. Social Security) Social Security is popular with everybody, even the staunchest right wingers. Ronald Reagan and Milton Freidman supported the New Deal programs of the 1930′s and even Ayn Rand collected Social Security up to her dying breath. Ronald Reagan even saved this program too by raising payroll taxes. This action also saved Medicare as it is part of the Social Security Act. The idea to privatize Social Security has popped up many times but has been met with negative reactions by a majority of the people so those ideas usually die in infancy. President Bush wanted to privatize it, but never did. Republicans had control of Congress and the White House from 2001-2006. If they had wanted to kill Social Security, they would have done so. But now all of a sudden they feel now is the time to privatize it, even as big bankers have proven that they are untrustworthy with money. Oh, and President Obama supports Social Security. Just another reason for Republicans to hate it.

Undoubtedly, one could add even more to the list but now you know what policies Republicans once supported and why they are now against those very same policies. If we take Republican claims to love America and their claims that the Founders were Republicans seriously, we could also now say that Republicans were for America before they were against her.
So why do republicans hate Obama so much? ssshhh don't say it out loud.. because he's black

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davidpdx Sep 2012 #58
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malaise Sep 2012 #3
JoePhilly Sep 2012 #21
malaise Sep 2012 #45
Odd Won Out Sep 2012 #54
malaise Sep 2012 #63
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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:07 PM

1. Because he's black and a Democrat.

Last edited Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:40 PM - Edit history (1)

The combo is deadly. Recall what they did to Clinton?

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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:26 PM

10. More precisely...

...the problem is their racism and only they can solve it.

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Response to iamtechus (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:30 PM

13. Unfortunately it has become OUR problem,

more every day, in ever aspect of our lives. SHOULD have diminished over the years, but hasn't.

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Response to iamtechus (Reply #10)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:41 AM

58. You are right, there is a simple way they could solve it

The Republicans could act like the lemmings they are and find the nearest.....
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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:45 PM

39. .............

yes exactly, you are quite correct about why repigs dislike Obama.

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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:03 PM

55. Yep, that's the root cause, black and not one of theres. The republicans, the teabagger types, are

such an embarrassment. The old time moderates were OK to me, but now of course a rare breed.

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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:45 AM

60. Half White just isn't good enough

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:07 PM

2. he`s black , a democrat,and successful.

he has a warm personality,he communicates well,and people who meet him like him.

he has a family that one could say is the measure of success. an intelligent outgoing wife and two young children who are well raised.

who in today`s republican party has those qualifications?

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:36 PM

35. DING, DING, DING. We have a winner - exactly what you said.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:10 PM

3. Obama has shattered their myth about the black male

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How dare he destroy centuries of carefully crafted propaganda.

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:55 PM

21. YUP ... that is also why they hate Michelle ... she also destroys a critical sterorotype they need.

They need poor and middle class whites to think that an African American woman always has 5 kids from 6 different dads (and yes I know that math does not work), makes a fortune from welfare, drives a Cadillac, and lives like a queen.

If those stereotypes die, the GOP is left empty handed.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:07 PM

45. Precisely

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:59 PM

54. That is exactly why they hate him so much

Their world view is threatened every day Obama is in the White House.

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Response to Odd Won Out (Reply #54)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:29 AM

63. 100% correct

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:10 PM

4. A black Democrat in the White House ?

Gimme back my gummint.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:13 PM

5. He is a black man who is a Democrat, and happens to be President.

Simple as that.

It is killing them.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:13 PM

6. I'm pretty sure all that melanin has more than a little bit to do with it.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:17 PM

7. They don't hate him, they fear him.

If he does good, they have no future.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:17 PM

8. Even if they won't admit it to themselves, you and everybody who responded knows

they are racist.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:25 PM

9. B.L.A.C.K.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:47 PM

18. that and the fact he is always the smartest guy in the room

 

that is what pisses off the dumbasses the most.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:16 PM

24. I think you're right.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:30 PM

32. Exactly!

I even asked a FB "friend" why he hated Obama so much -- I think the words I used were "is it because he's black or because he's smarter than you?"
He never answered, deleted my post, and unfriended me (meh, small loss).

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Response to Kookaburra (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:36 PM

36. hilarious!

love that! similar, I had a FB friend writing negative crap about obama, when I asked what he'd done that she hated so much, she said, "I don't really follow politics, but I hear my husband talking". UGH! that's the worst.

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Response to RazBerryBeret (Reply #36)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:46 PM

40. Follow up

 

If you still Facebook with her, ask her what her husband hates about Obama.

(obviously, only if you think the effort & time doing that will make any difference ....)

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Response to bongbong (Reply #40)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:51 PM

41. I'm pretty sure I know...

her husband is a "good old boy", a racist and listens to Limbaugh...
but maybe I'll give it a shot and let you know!

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Response to RazBerryBeret (Reply #41)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:12 PM

47. .,.....

 

> but maybe I'll give it a shot and let you know!

Knowing the husband's history, if he DOESN'T say "Obama's a socialist" (while thinking "That n----r's a n----r"), it means hell is under blizzard alert.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:28 PM

11. He won

GOPers hate losing. They are poor losers. When they lose, they pout and work to make sure everyone else suffers for their loss as well.

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Response to deeno (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:35 PM

14. If we actually DID offer equality of opportunity

we might get somewhere, but we don't, never have, and probably never will. Economics and race keep us divided.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:40 PM

15. Because he's in the way

And he knows it.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:44 PM

16. These turkeys fear any

educated person that happens to have a darker skin color than shriveled up Anglo-Saxon-Wasp skin tones. Damn,that's just to polite,these assholes can't handle looking up to any or have to honor any African-American or a person with brown skin. GOP=grumpy old white people,got a few siblings that fill this moniker.

Hear the dog whistles every day from these people,can't choose you relatives,but,you just do your best trying to get through to their skulls. Most are retired Union people whom depend on SS and Medicare. I got mine,F-- you,attitude. So sad.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:45 PM

17. I'll take "Because He's Black" for $100, Alex.

Seriously, if he was white there would be a bipartisan move to repeal the 22nd Amendment.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:51 PM

19. MAINLY BECAUSE HE IS BLACK!!! The rest is just window dressing, its about race.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:54 PM

20. come on.... it's called political fanaticism

...they are brainwashed almost as badly as the "good German" during pre-Hitler Germany. And the more people fail to point out this obviousness, the more they enable it's eventually rebirth.

Ooops... too late.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:05 PM

22. They hated Clinton, FDR, Carter too. It's about the distribution of money.

talk to one of these wack jobs about Carter. It's rather shocking. They have this big conspiracy theory about Carter and Iran or some garbage. They refused to call FDR president calling him instead "that man in the White House" and impeached Clinton.

The reason is power and money. When the dems are in charge there is at least the possibility that money will go to the poor or middle class and there is danger the dems might cut oil subsidies and defense which hurts big corporations through federal contracts and make the rich pay more in taxes. I know, it doesn't happen as much as it should but it does happen around the edges. It's not an accident that Bush started two wars that benefits the likes of Haliburton etc.

Politics is all about how we divide up the pie. They want a bigger piece and don't care what they have to do it get it. Read Ayn Rand. They are the truly deserving. In their own minds.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:19 PM

26. i understand

 

but did you read the post? It talks about a bunch of policies the Gop supported or enacted themselves,until Barack Obama came along.He can bend over backward for them and they still hate him,I'm not black i'm latino I have no reason to say this other than that's what I have seen in the last 4 years.

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Response to Hamlette (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:22 PM

28. yup

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:07 PM

23. first and foremost because he's a non-republican in the white house.

while some individual republicans may have a tiny bit more going for them than the collective, the party collectively behaves in a remarkably primitive, tribal fashion.

they view the white house as their property and non-republicans, or at least non-right wingers as the ENEMY.

the fact that obama doesn't have the "right" skin color just amplifies the rage that's already there just from being an outsider in "their" white house.


the republican strategists push the hate meme because they know it leads to donations and to votes from their ever-shrinking base. and frankly because they don't know much else. they're pretty much addicted to it.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:18 PM

25. They DON'T

They don't hate Obama, they have turned face on the above mentioned issues because they, like the Democrats, dare not talk about the most important political issue - the undue influence of major corporations.

I have seen bizarre misleading interpretations of what Eisenhower said in his farewell speech - please pay attention to the fact that he was NOT talking about the defense industry, the "complex" he was referring to was the web of inter-relations between the military industries and other industries. Businessmen who by 1960 were invasive and controlling too much of the information which Washington was basing foreign & commercial policy on...

In the thread "Arms Sales: Obama’s Only Growth Industry?" I have already introduced the subject.

The military industrial complex was a threat in 1960 and it is today because people don't understand and are not interested in understanding the complex relationships and the resulting corruption of US policies.

Instead of mature analysis of US policies, too many people want to focus on petulant quibs like 'why do they hate obama'

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Response to daeron (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:29 PM

31. wow

 

their hatred of Obama is what is keeping this country from moving foward.I live in the south and believe me every time i hear the name Obama is followed by the (N) word.But I respect your opinion thou.

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Response to Barry2012 (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 12:35 AM

56. Wow indeed

To me the hatred you are referring to is part of the same problem, a disregard for people.

You have the unfortunate circumstance of being in the company of short-sighted twits who express their anger at the world by use of the (N) word and similar rants. But Washington attracts 'clever' twits who are counting on the short sighted ones to vote for them, and 'clever' criminal types who want to manipulate US policies for their own ends.

The short sighted twits using the (N) word, and the Presidents who are manipulated by the 'clever' twits are almost always motivated by irrational fear.

The example of a clever twit I give you is Mr Robert Lovett - grandson of the Pacific Union empire who heard from his Rockefeller friends that a colony on the Australian island of Papua had the world's greatest gold & copper wealth; so their joint interest, Freeport, in 1959 began to establish a claim for Ertberg where the wealth was; young Michael Rockefeller prepares to assess whether the locals will agree to mining of Ertsberg (the mountain of gold & copper, also sacred homeland of the Amungme) and shipping of the ore through the rivers south of the future mine; while in Washington Mr Lovett tells President-elect Kennedy that an 'academic' McGeorge Bundy would be a brilliant choice as the US national security adviser..

The 'clever' man got his family friend & fellow bonesman Bundy into the White house where he could control the information that Kennedy was given..
Was Kennedy told that the Papuans had already held national elections? No.
Was Kennedy told about the Papuan wealth? No.
But Kennedy was told to fear the Russians and fear them befriending Sukarno, told that by sacrificing the Papuan people to Indonesian rule America could save itself - see the Dept. of State summary regarding "West New Guinea"

For fifty years the colony of West Papua has suffered foreign military occupation and US mining because Washington listened to clever twits.

I think it is dreadful that you have to hear the (N) word being used by local twits, but 400,000 of my friends have been killed to keep the Freeport mine operational, and I think the clever twits in Washington are the ones to worry about.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:20 PM

27. Easy - it is ripping their cold hearts out that a Black Man is in the White House!

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:26 PM

29. He is only half white. nt

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:28 PM

30. They think black men belong in jail, not in the WHITE House. It offends their racist heads.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:32 PM

33. The sheriff is near!

 




Easy answer.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:33 PM

34. Good list.

Thanks for putting that together. I think that is why there are moderate Republicans who are backing Obama.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:38 PM

37. Bill Maher had a theory

a couple years ago...I still think it applies.
and it makes me laugh...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-sees-the-decline-of-white-male-supremacy-in-brett-favres-penis/

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:45 PM

38. It's a lot of different reasons

 

For some it's all about race and nothing more.
Others it's about the good ol boys club deal.
Other really think he's trying to reshape America into something they don't want.
Others it's because they really don't pay attention to anything but sound bites for the likes of Hannity and Rush.

If you guys remember the hate towards Bill Clinton was pretty unprecedented also


Just a quick story about a friend of mine that is a republican and strong teaparty supporter

His daughter had a very bad accident a few years ago and was seriously injured to the point of having most of her bones reconstructed. Full body cast.

She didn't have health coverage and ended up on state Medicaid to pay for it.

We were talking about obama care and he was very much against it. He said the democrats are trying to socialize health care in our country.

I mentioned that if it wasn't for medicade paid by state taxes AND federal taxes your daughter wouldn't be walking and leading a normal life right now.

He looked like a deer in headlights when I said that.

Maybe it was the wrong thing to say about his daughter but I siad it anyways

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Response to former-republican (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:25 PM

50. I think that is what they call cognitive dissonance.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 09:56 PM

42. Great list!

Saved for future reference.

I know that took a lot of work. Thank you!

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:03 PM

43. He is black and beat them in an election for the office they most prize

This disproves their theories of white superiority, and they can't stand being wrong about that. This is why they come up with absurd theories about how it can't really be true - ACORN, that we the voters decided on a case of "affirmative action" (and Rush and co. can't even believe he was the President of Havard Law Review, it must all have been affirmative action); the birth certificate, no matter how ridiculous it is, they talk themselves into it because it just can't be that there is a black man smarter than they are and smart enough to get elected to what they consider the top dog position in the world.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:07 PM

46. Why?

They hate him so much because he makes them look so bad. He's got brains, looks and talent, and it shows. They don't, and it shows.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:14 PM

48. Because he represents the half of America that doesn't think the Earth is flat and 6,000 yrs old.

That, and he's black.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:21 PM

49. I often wonder about...

how different it would be if we had elected Mrs Clinton.
Would they attack a Woman as badly as they have attacked an African-American Man?
The Corporatists stole the Gore election and the Kerry election. They had plans to continue taking the Presidency in order to solidify their power and essentially own the Federal Government from here on out.
Barack Obama threw a wrench in their plan to reshape our nation into a Theocracy run by corporatists. He captured everyone's imagination and got many people out to vote who may not have.
Many good intelligent people want nothing to do with politics, in giving the field such a bad reputation, the Corporatists succeed in lowering the turnout; they turn people off. Disenfranchise as large a percentage as possible through their current effort of voter ID and the right can win. There is no doubt that there are more Progressives in the United States than conservatives. But if they succeed in bringing their people out to vote and driving away or preventing our side from voting, even by a small percentage like 5% in a close state, then its over.
It all boils down to the Citizen's United decision. That was a great gift to the corporatists. Realize that a very few Billionaires maybe 16 or so are spending a large amount to sway the vote in their favor.
If Obama loses or if we do not gain the House along with the Senate and the Presidency, look for more obstructionist behavior adding more suffering to the middle class and creating more discontent. Come 2016 we must elect another Democratic President.
Of course they will say they oppose anything the President or the Democrats suggest, they want our policies to fail. Even if they once though it was a great idea.
They also control the media even PBS and NPR for dog's sake. So the message is very slanted; there is no fair and balanced, if there ever was.
Learn about Propaganda and how the banks have done these things in the past. On Youtube there is a video the Secret Of Oz, about the banksters. The BBC had a great series on Media control and persuasion called the Century Of Self. People think propaganda started with the Nazi's but it actually started with the need to get Americans to support our entry into World War I.
Everybody needs to know that this is the election of their life, it is up to each of us to vote and try to get everybody we know to cast their ballot.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:31 PM

51. Racism is part of the reason. Republicans love successful black people as long as they are employees


Like Powell and Rice. But when conservative blacks start to assert themselves in the policy process the hate comes to the surface. Powell and Rice were stars in Bush's cabinet until the started to go off script. Then Rumsfeld and Cheney who had neutered them both started to undermine and discredit them.

Rumsfeld lost his job while Cheney survived. But the die was cast. Never should a black come close to executive power in government. It's OK to be an executive in the pizza business but not in government.

So when Obama one the RW went ape shit insane. All of a sudden the first black to be elected President, (a milestone in US history and a good thing), was transformed overnight into a coup d'etat by a Black Panther, Chicago gangster thug, Muslim, drug addict, homosexual Marxist, who was not only not born in America but hated America.

The real reason they hate Obama is that he was a successful black man, more importantly, a successful black FAMILY MAN. This goes against the picture the RW has painted of blacks as serial breeders, gang bangers and wastrels. Worst of all he had no skeletons in his closet so they set about inventing them.

He never attended Columbia, he cheated his way into Harvard by claiming to be a foreign student and once there affirmative actioned himself into the editorship of the Harvard Law Review.

The will do the same thing to the first women elected President and you can take that to the bank.

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:37 PM

52. The White House belongs to the GOP.....

It's the ultimats entitlement program. It rightfully belongs to them

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Sat Sep 1, 2012, 10:37 PM

53. They are filled with hate & fear & greed. What they fear most is truth & the people who recognize

their BS for what it is, lies used for manipulation. They are in the bubble that suffocates, this is what's killing the country.
It works on those who absorb that hate & fear. Racism is a huge part of it, the rest is sheer arrogance. There's no room for patriotism or doing what is best for the whole when you operate on that level, even when a thing is right & you completely KNOW it.

It's amazing they are deluded that there is any level of christianity in their ignorance. That's the confounding part of all of it.

It is absolutely racism, there is no other explanation.

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Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:24 AM

57. Several reasons

Firstly, he's black. Now, not all conservatives are racist but racist people do tend to be conservative. For some percentage, racial resentment is the main cause of their hatred and, for many more, it sits just below their conscious mind and allows them to go further against this president than they ever have before.

Secondly, the GOP base has been radicalised. During Clinton and DimBulb's administrations, the barriers between the right-fringe and the mainstream right were gradually removed. What was once fringe talk; stuff like cries of socialism, Birtherism; all that stuff was once right-fringe thought held only by the lunatic fringe. But over the years, the barrier between the two was removed and now, all the kooks that Buckley and co chased out of the party are back and running the party. So the Randroids, backyard Confederates, anarchists/Libertarians (a Libertarian is just an anarchist who wants protection from his slaves), all those maniacs who believe that Dickens's "excess population" should just die, they're in charge now.

Third, there is a very, very strong anti-intellectual streak in the Republican party. The fact that Obama was editor of Harvard Law Review and a professor, the fact that he is clearly the smartest man in the room, that stirs up the resentment of that large segment of the populace which is not only ignorant, not only proud of their ignorance but actively distrusts and resents those who know more than them. You can see that through their desperate attempts to claim that Obama was never a professor, their insistence that his college record is just through affirmative action (yeah, that one mixes in racism too).

Fourth, there is a very strong element in the GOP base that believes that if you're not a fundamentalist, then you're not a Christian at all. They have the same view as the Inquisitions, that anyone who doesn't agree with them is, by definition, devil-led. Since Obama was/is a fairly liberal Christian, he's not any sort of Christian. And, naturally, they will not tolerate a president who isn't Christian.

Fifth, there's the fact that he's a Democrat. David Brock, in Blinded By The Right (his apology for the Clinton years), explained their mentality very well. The right feels entitled to power. Any Democratic president is inherently illegitimate by virtue of being Democratic and so, any and all means to unseat him are valid. Republicans are like the Bloods. Why do they hate the Crips? Because they wear blue. The right have picked their side, everything good and right and pure comes from their side and therefore, anything the other side does is wrong by definition. If Obama had enacted the exact same policies, down to the tiniest detail, the same in every single way but had an (R) after his name, they would be cheering him to the rooftops and suggesting he should be on Mt. Rushmore. It really is that simple. If he has a (D) after his name, he is not just wrong but deliberately evil and trying to destroy the country and must be stopped by any means necessary.

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Response to Barry2012 (Original post)

Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:44 AM

59. Excellent OP, well done!

Many very good points, well thought out, Bravo!

Julie

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Sun Sep 2, 2012, 08:10 AM

61. because he is the result of a black man impregnating a white woman

 

what used to be termed "miscegenation" cuts to the very core of white racists.

they cannot and will not condone a mixed race birth. especially if that mixed race birth becomes the president.

remember, they used to hang black men for just LOOKING at white women.

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Sun Sep 2, 2012, 09:14 AM

62. They will never forgive him for whipping the pants off their

favorite son, John McCain. Being an African American also digs at their racist being.

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