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Boxcar Willie

(75 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:50 AM Aug 2012

I'm surprised that no one on DU gets Clint

what he did was a wonderful piece of performance art.
He is an amazing artist and even though he's getting old he is not afraid to grow and experiment as a performer.
Clint - you're really special

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I'm surprised that no one on DU gets Clint (Original Post) Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 OP
Bless his heart deutsey Aug 2012 #1
Ever notice how "Bless is heart" can be replaced pnwest Aug 2012 #15
That's what makes it such a high-utility and versatile phrase JHB Aug 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author 1GirlieGirl Aug 2012 #26
I still say he jumped the shark... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #2
sure, or he could be getting senile niyad Aug 2012 #3
my grandfather now deceased Fresh_Start Aug 2012 #4
Was he a comedian? Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #11
you are right, a lot of my grandfather ranting was in a foreign language Fresh_Start Aug 2012 #13
It's hard to tell if your comments are authentic or satire? WI_DEM Aug 2012 #5
He can be a great actor and director, and still an asshole. immoderate Aug 2012 #6
Sadly, I think this was for real. dawg Aug 2012 #7
ACTUALLY CatWoman Aug 2012 #8
Thanks! Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #12
I think the repugs had two choices. Arctic Dave Aug 2012 #9
Charlton Heston without the weaponry. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #10
Like Andy Kaufmann, eh? I'd advise him to fess up if that's the case. nolabear Aug 2012 #14
it was not the goofiness riverwalker Aug 2012 #16
That's him Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #18
Obama has had 4 years to end the war in Afganistan, tama Aug 2012 #22
Here's what Eastwood said to the chair re Afghanistan aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #24
YES! Well said. Some more examples unc70 Aug 2012 #38
Most inspired tama Aug 2012 #19
Promo for his new movie. HappyMe Aug 2012 #20
"I can't tell him to do that to himself" aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #21
And we heard loud and clear. n/t tama Aug 2012 #23
Hardly original EC Aug 2012 #25
It was called in prov and he didn't do a good job. Ask Mr. Lipton he explained what he southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #27
"improv" - short for improvisation kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #32
thanks for the correction southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #35
Do you mean short bus 'special'? Cause I can agree with you there. n/t renie408 Aug 2012 #28
Maybe? Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #31
It was performance art, alright. Quantess Aug 2012 #29
Thank You Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #30
Nope ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #33
Yeah, his gesture of slashing across his throat was really special... cynatnite Aug 2012 #34
Wasn't it? Boxcar Willie Aug 2012 #37
Robme/Rayn & Rove's sole plan is to divide us. Amonester Aug 2012 #36
That was NOT brilliant, nor inspired, nor entertaining Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #39
I'm not a fan of Laurie Anderson either... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #40

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
15. Ever notice how "Bless is heart" can be replaced
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:15 PM
Aug 2012

with "That poor, dumb bastard" in any given instance of use?

Response to deutsey (Reply #1)

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
4. my grandfather now deceased
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:52 AM
Aug 2012

regularly had performances like that.
He railed on the blacks, jews, politicians, non-catholics...

 

Boxcar Willie

(75 posts)
11. Was he a comedian?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:01 PM
Aug 2012

maybe a famous one?
My grandpa used to shake his fist at the radio and/or TV and scream obscenities in a foreign language...

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
13. you are right, a lot of my grandfather ranting was in a foreign language
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:05 PM
Aug 2012

I don't think Eastwood had a career as a comedian so I don't think you can assume it was a comedic act

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
5. It's hard to tell if your comments are authentic or satire?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:53 AM
Aug 2012

Frankly I just thought it was a superstar coasting hoping that his personal magnitism and star authority would win out over a lack of preparation.

dawg

(10,622 posts)
7. Sadly, I think this was for real.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

Although pulling a Joaquin Phoenix on the RNC would be a truly awesome thing to do.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
9. I think the repugs had two choices.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

1) Clint arguing with an invisible Obama in a chair and losing, or

2) Chuck Norris fighting an invisible Obama and getting his ass kicked.

nolabear

(41,956 posts)
14. Like Andy Kaufmann, eh? I'd advise him to fess up if that's the case.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:05 PM
Aug 2012

Because his reputation is seriously

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
16. it was not the goofiness
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:18 PM
Aug 2012

that in itself can be endearing. It was the nastiness, the lies (blaming Obama for Afghanistan, really?) the snarky mean spiritedness of his speech. He had an opportunity to speak to millions of his vision for this country, a country that used to adore him. What did he have to say?
Nothing. He was McCain's crazy A-Rab lady, in pants.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
22. Obama has had 4 years to end the war in Afganistan,
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:37 PM
Aug 2012

but no end in sight and bodycount increasing. You get your priorities mixed. What is nasty is the war, not using nation wide platform to speak against war - and get even the even more militaristic party of US to root for call to end the war.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
24. Here's what Eastwood said to the chair re Afghanistan
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:03 PM
Aug 2012

I know you were against the war in Iraq, and that’s okay. But you thought the war in Afghanistan was OK. You know, I mean — you thought that was something worth doing. We didn’t check with the Russians to see how did it — they did there for 10 years.

(APPLAUSE)

But we did it, and it is something to be thought about, and I think that, when we get to maybe — I think you’ve mentioned something about having a target date for bringing everybody home. You gave that target date, and I think Mr. Romney asked the only sensible question, you know, he says, “Why are you giving the date out now? Why don’t you just bring them home tomorrow morning?”

_______________________________

First, opposition to the war in Iraq was a good idea according to Clint. That's a critique of the entire GOP except for Ron Paul. Furthermore the war in Afghanistan has always been a bad idea; just ask the Russians. Another critique of the entire GOP except for Ron Paul. And regarding Obama's decision to bring the troops out, well Romney has criticized Obama's idea of giving a specific date for their return. Romney has stated there should be no deadline for bringing out the remaining 23,000. By criticizing Obama on this issue and getting the Republican crowd to applaud him, without realizing it they were doubly applauding against Romney and his increasing support for the neocon agenda. Like idiots, the crowd was laughing and applauding his criticism of Romney's policy without realizing it. I don't know if it was intentional on his part, but if you can't come out and lambast Romney and tell him to go fuck himself, you get the crowd to think they're applauding against Obama and not Romney.

unc70

(6,110 posts)
38. YES! Well said. Some more examples
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 03:34 PM
Aug 2012

When he started talking to the Invisible Obama, I thought of "The Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison and connected to all the racism at this convention. Then I saw the things you mentioned. Then the connection to the other invisible president missing from this convention, George W. Bush. "What were you thinking?"

Performance art as "frontier" justice. The treatment of Ron Paul and his supporters was the final straw. I saw this as a take-down of those who were forced to "shut up" at the convention. He had them cheering about lawyers not being Presidents, triggering the GOP anti-lawyer meme in support of a argument against Romney as much as Obama, both grads of Harvard Law.

There are just too many things like that in Clint's performance to have been chance, far too many. It was intentional. He knew that his speech/performance would dominate the news cycles.

RIP Andy Kaufman.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
19. Most inspired
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 12:29 PM
Aug 2012

political theater. Bipartisan passions can can make blind to dimensions and meanings beyond black-vs-white axis of us against them.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
27. It was called in prov and he didn't do a good job. Ask Mr. Lipton he explained what he
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:08 PM
Aug 2012

did wrong with the performance. He was just on MSNBC.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
29. It was performance art, alright.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:12 PM
Aug 2012

I have never seen anything like it. But I cannot honestly say it was good.

ismnotwasm

(41,971 posts)
33. Nope
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:17 PM
Aug 2012

I've seen wonderful performance art; that sir, was neither wonderful or art. He looked like a sad old man, and given how vigirous and active he still is, his performance was extremely pathetic as well as very sad. Fuck those disgusting republicans for using him that way.

BTW-- it's not just DU, much of social media is having a field day making fun of him.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
36. Robme/Rayn & Rove's sole plan is to divide us.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 02:54 PM
Aug 2012


Ea$twood was part of that evil plan.

DUers don't get it? (Or is it you?)

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
39. That was NOT brilliant, nor inspired, nor entertaining
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 03:53 PM
Aug 2012

It was sad. It was bitter. It was delusional.

It was also a man that just lost quite a few fans last night spewing partisan hatred, myself included.

As a nurse, I have never worked for a doctor that I used personally because I simply do not want to know that they don't care about their patients--as has been my experience with many that I have worked with.

By the same token, I could care less that someone contributes to the republican party. However, when they seek to use THEIR fame to further the republican agenda, I simply am done supporting anything they do. They have just become part of what is wrong in this country.

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